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Jeff Beck is a good example of someone who is phenomenally talented, but gets very little recognition from the general masses.

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Beck was always more of a musician's musician, but his influence on generations of guitarists, songwriters, and musicians is absolutely undeniable.

Just because you don't know anyone under 30 who listens to Beck means little to nothing. I don't know anyone under 30 who listens to Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder, and I'll be damned if anyone's going to claim either of them are "irrelevant".

If relevance = Kings of Leon, Breaking Benjamin, or other such fruity crap we might as well stick a fork in popular culture.
Blow By Blow and Wired, Beck's two most influential albums as a solo artist, came out in the mid 1970s. I was around 5 at the time, and would have had NO idea who Jeff Beck was. I only became aware of Beck later on when I first started playing guitar and studying music, and finding out that top-tier guitarists would mention Beck's name readily and without hesitation alongside Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Duane Allman, and so forth.

I bought both albums in my teenage years, about ten years or so after their release. I was completely blown away. The microtonality he was able to evoke out of his guitar was nothing short of breathtaking.
The "General Population" argument is basically equating current sales/popularity = lasting value. Ridiculous. Now, Jeff Beck was never a household name. Neither was Al Dimeola. Ask decades worth of influential guitarists who have shaped the musical landscape over the past few decades whether or not either one of those two are "relevant".
Mostly true. But just because some random Midwestern soccer Mom couldn't tell you who Jeff Beck was (while naming each and every Jonas Brother without hesitation) doesn't mean that the man is -- from an influential or historical standpoint -- irrelevant.

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I know plenty... including myself.

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I also listen to Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder. And Al Green.

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No mention of Foghat or The Alan Parson project in this thread. Cmon

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Some people call me a music snob, and I can exhibit some snobbish tendencies, but I would be torn apart by alot of people for my collection. There is very little that has been in the top 40 for the past 10-15 years that I have not strongly disliked; I hate that so much of the stuff on the radio sounds so much alike. I know alot of the popular bands names, but could not single them out by song. I have no shame (well maybe a tad) of admitting I like something I hear if it is on LastFM, Mtv (I keed), or the radio - if something sounds good to me, it sounds good.
I know what I like and if something sounds like crap to me, it sounds like crap. I grew up a HUGE Metallica fan, I had Kill Em All new on cassette (I know I DQ myself from being a snob not owning vinyl) and loved them the second I heard it. I do think they suck now, not because they are popular, but because there songs are boring, unimaginative and generic. They have had a few songs I have liked but maybe 2 on their last 4 albums total.
I will not flame someone for their taste usually, but if someone wants to talk about how Brittany or Nickleback are the next Zeppelin or the greatest on artists on earth, all bets are off.

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Thus proving my point actually, that anecdotal "I know NOBODY under the age of 30 who listens to Millard Funbone" statements are ridiculous. And Jeff Beck is a GOD! A GOD I SAY!!

I was never much into Queensyrche. I had Mindcrime, saw them open for Metallica in 1989, but who interrupts an otherwise cool title track to give a lecture on 1986 Federal expenditures?

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couldn't have said it better myself. I don't particularly care for alot of stuff that's currently played on the radio ...but I wouldn't deliberatly go to a forum and bash someone else as a person for liking a certain artist. Although when I was in college a few months ago, I did laugh at some of the ridiculous music people would blast out their car windows. Nickelback for instance. I mean how "bad ass" of a person can you be if you're listening to one of Nickelback's most popular songs? That's just my opinion.

As far as lack of musical education, I can't believe kids these days though. I was visiting my cousins this summer and they walked by the TV when I was watching the Michael Jackson coverage on Nancy Grace. The little six year old cousin of mine kept insisting "that's a girl"... and my nine year old cousin was like, "who is that? who's Michael Jackson?" I'm sorry but when I was nine years old I knew who Michael Jackson was. Sure, it was a different time back in the 80s, but still...

Speaking of being a music snob, I definitely started being a music snob as a teenager. Everyone else listened to top 40 stuff and I was listening to Alanis Morissette, Vonda Shepard, Chantal Kreviazuk, the Beatles, Patsy Cline. Nowadays, If I want to listen to a few Paris Hilton or Britney Spears songs, than that's what I'll listen to.

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Of course. All three make awesome music (especially Al Green for my preference).

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It's all about getting older. We all like the stuff from "our time" the best...

You may think The Beatles is the best thing ever, but for someone born 30 years after they disbanded it's just gonna sound old and 'is that it!?'.
It can be hard to appreciate something new and groundbreaking if "you weren't there"...

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I don't know if that's necessarily true. I'm only 20 and my favorite artists are:

Radiohead, Sonic Youth, Pavement, Pixies, The Beatles, Joy Division, The Velvet Underground, Bob Dylan, etc. I was 8 when my favorite album (OK Computer) came out.

I know I'm in the minority for people my age: I'm listening to Kind of Blue right now, after I just listened to Ege Bamyasi and There's a Riot Goin' On.

I know it takes a little bit of effort to listen to some older things, but for me it's worth it. I haven't listened to anything on the radio in a few years.

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All of you Stevie Wonder lovers certainly know that Stevie wrote 'Superstition' for Jeff Beck.

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I think that's true with most artists and most people but I think The Beatles are one of the few that actually transcend generations.

I'm only slightly older and of those eight bands you listed four* of them I consider my all time favorites.

*Pixies, The Beatles, Joy Division and The Velvet Underground
I also really like Bob Dylan. And you mentioned a Krautrock album so :up::up:.

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You are describing people who lose interest in music over time, not real music fans.
The Beatles broke up before I was born, but they are my favorite band. I introduced my nieces to their music when they were enamored with N'Sync and Britney. They've since moved beyond the teenybop pop but still love The Beatles.

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Just a completely misinformed comment



Beatles Cool, Madonna Not In New Poll
The Beatles are still the most popular music act in America, but icons Madonna and Mariah Carey aren’t cool anymore.

Slideshow: See The Top 18 List

The Eagles and Johnny Cash are big with American music-lovers, no matter what age they are.

A survey by the Pew Research Group shows there's not much of a musical generation gap these days.

With the Beatles at number one, most of the musicians named in the survey are from many yesterdays ago.

Right behind the Beatles are the Eagles.

Icons like Bruce Springsteen, Madonna and Mariah Carey didn’t make the top 10 list, while acts like U2, Britney Spears, Led Zeppelin, Celine Dion and Bon Jovi failed to chart.

The survey found the Beatles high on the list of every age group.

Among those under 30, Michael Jackson was the No. 1 pick. For those 30-49, the Eagles won out.

People 50-64 picked the Beatles -- who were the winners overall. For those 65 and older, Frank Sinatra can't be beat.

Rock was the favorite type of music for every age group except 65 and above. Older people preferred country music, followed by classical.

The survey says older people seem to prefer country music and Johnny Cash is a favorite, coming in third.

Elvis Presley was the fifth most popular musician overall.

Other country stars to make the top-10 are Carrie Underwood in 9th and Garth Brooks in 10th place.


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I may never "get" the Eagles.

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Actors and actresses, for the most part, do not write, produce, edit, direct, and light their own movies. Why must singers do everything? I mean I have never heard anyone say "Well, Meg Ryan doesn't write and direct all her movies. What a tool!"

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I agree and I like A LOT of different types of music.

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This is a silly comment to make... many members on this forum alone are young and love the Beatles, not to mention countless other bands before their time. And the Beatles is a bad group to mention as I'm sure most people universally love them.

I'm 20 and many of my favorite musicians were "before my time" but I still love them just as much as "current" bands.

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is that why there is a new rockband game for them?

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From what I've seen, young people are liking old bands like the Beatles, etc. to appear cool. It's no different than people liking Miley Cyrus or Britney Spears because they think she is cool. They both filter in to some sort of social group aspect.

If anyone is watching Cougar Town there was an awesome joke/scene in either the second or third episode where Courtney Cox's son is writing his college entrance essay and she tells him to start writing about who he is not who he pretends to be. He tries to defend his love of "The Clash" and then is unable to produce the name of more than just one of their songs.

I'm in my mid-twenties and like a very small percentage of music that came out before I was born in the 80s. I like about four Beatles songs and I don't think they are the best thing since sliced bread. But, I can see how they would appeal to people. And, no harm in listening to them or Cyrus or a Jonas Brother if you so desire. If your ears like it, go for it!

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for some reason I coulden't get the quote you replied to on my text box here. anyway, I think the point the person might have been trying to make (as far as my interpretation goes) is that kids who are younger than age ten probably don't listen to 1950s/60s/70s music.

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