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GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Old 11-20-08, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cdollaz View Post
The songs themselves might not be that bad if he didn't nu-metal it up and add all of the stupid shit to the songs.
which song on the album is nu metal?
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Old 11-20-08, 03:59 PM
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Here's the New York Times review:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/ar...nted=1&_r=1&hp

Not so good...
they write "album’s best song, “Shackler’s Revenge,'" and they lose credibility right there
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Old 11-20-08, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post
which song on the album is nu metal?
Don't remember the names but the first 2 tracks have some of that in them.
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Old 11-20-08, 04:30 PM
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IT's not TERRIBLE I guess...but it's not GNR.

Slash's Gibson/Marshall guitar tone is missed. Dearly.

2 stars out of 5.
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Old 11-20-08, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cdollaz View Post
Don't remember the names but the first 2 tracks have some of that in them.
the first 2 tracks are chinese democracy and Shacklers revenge and they are not nu metal. do you know what nu metal is?
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Old 11-20-08, 08:01 PM
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I'm looking forward to my free Dr. Pepper.

So much for "Chinese Democracy" being the soundtrack to "Duke Nukem Forever".
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Old 11-20-08, 08:04 PM
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Has Dr Pepper released details on how to get the free soda?

I feel sorry for GNR fans, I was never a huge fan but recognized the talent they "had".
15 years of waiting, and this... is it.

Then again, it's really GNRINO, Without the other members it's just Axel and his
copyrights.
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Old 11-20-08, 08:17 PM
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Has Dr Pepper released details on how to get the free soda?
This is all I have seen, but probably enough:

Beginning Sunday at 12:01 a.m., coupons for a free 20-ounce soda will be available for 24 hours on Dr Pepper's Web site. They'll be honored until Feb. 28.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27829616/
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Old 11-20-08, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GuessWho View Post
4 out of 5 stars from Rolling Stone

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/...nese_democracy
Rolling Stone HAS to give it a good review. If they don't, they don't get exclusive interviews with GnR and their record label could also remove any and all advertising for GnR and other bands on their label. And advertising is how Rolling Stone makes money.

Imagine if they told the truth and slammed it for being a very bad Elton John album?
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Old 11-20-08, 08:33 PM
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Old 11-20-08, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post
the first 2 tracks are chinese democracy and Shacklers revenge and they are not nu metal. do you know what nu metal is?
Fine, I'll just call them crap and maybe you'll understand that.
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Old 11-20-08, 09:24 PM
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I like Chuck Klosterman's review, even if I don't share his taste in music.

I'm intrigued about the Mexican-vampire quasi-Transylvanian one-liner in Sorry...
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Old 11-20-08, 09:25 PM
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Really?
There's nothing here better than My World to you?
Really?
Nope. Not a thing.

At least "My World" was recorded during a period when, contextually, it could at least be considered a G-N-R track. I get no such vibe from ANY of the new tracks. There are no less than five guitarists who contributed, maybe more, regardless of what Axl admits to. There is no G-N-R anymore; this ridiculously over-produced piece of shit confirms it without doubt.

At best, it sounds like a poor and pale imitation; a crappy "tribute" band, and I use the word "tribute" loosely.

All of this is, of course, IMNSHO.
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Old 11-20-08, 11:03 PM
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At least "My World" was recorded during a period when, contextually, it could at least be considered a G-N-R track.
Except, per the new book Watch You Bleed, the other Gunners had no idea My World was going to be there and signed off on UYI2 after the alternate Don't Cry. The band members found out after the fact that Axl threw his techno experiment on there. It was a solo Axl track.
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Old 11-20-08, 11:33 PM
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Wasn't there a Best Buy deal that included a free t-shirt or was that offer already ended? Could've sworn I saw it somewhere online this week...
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Old 11-21-08, 03:53 AM
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Does anyone else think the cover, with the bicycle, makes this look like an old album by The Smiths?
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Old 11-21-08, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GuessWho View Post
Except, per the new book Watch You Bleed, the other Gunners had no idea My World was going to be there and signed off on UYI2 after the alternate Don't Cry. The band members found out after the fact that Axl threw his techno experiment on there. It was a solo Axl track.
wait, what? they quit after axl put the alt lyrics to dont cry on illusion 2?
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Old 11-21-08, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cdollaz View Post
Fine, I'll just call them crap and maybe you'll understand that.
neither of the songs are crap, but you are entitled.
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Old 11-21-08, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post
wait, what? they quit after axl put the alt lyrics to dont cry on illusion 2?
I think he means as far as they knew the album was done. And that the song was added after without their knowledge. Not that they quit the band.
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Old 11-21-08, 08:37 AM
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I think he means as far as they knew the album was done. And that the song was added after without their knowledge. Not that they quit the band.
Exactly. When the others approved ("signed off on") the album, the album had Dont Cry (alt) as the final track. Axl added My World after the others already signed their album approval contracts.

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Old 11-21-08, 01:51 PM
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I've heard some of the tracks and realized the only reason I don't like them is....Axl. I forgot how much I dislike his voice. I loved AFD despite his voice - so many great riffs and solos.

This one doesn't even sound like GN'R, but there's some cool music there. Just bad vocals.
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I've never been a big fan of Axl's vocals, but the more I listen to classic GnR, the more I think he's talented at projecting his personality into his vocals. More of a Mick Jagger approach than a Freddie Mercury. The problem with the recent stuff is that his vocals are flat and over processed in much of what I've heard. Between the lack of Slash and the lack of dynamics in his vocals, there's nothing left to identify this as GnR anymore.
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Old 11-22-08, 07:06 AM
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Wow. I'll admit I'm only a fan of a few songs from their debut, but I almost don't have words for what I just listened to. I sure hope Tommy Stinson was paid a huge stash of dough for his time.
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Is anyone's Best Buy opening at midnight tonight? Would you stop in to get it if it was? Mine isn't, but I think I would if it were...
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Old 11-22-08, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Does anyone else think the cover, with the bicycle, makes this look like an old album by The Smiths?
Hah, that's great, I knew it was reminding me of something!
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