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Old 03-26-11, 02:30 PM
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal View Post
Maybe not you, but there's bound to be some moran out there who holds this opinion. And I'm laughing at him.

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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper View Post
Axl is still a talented songwriter.

I wish he'd give up trying to be artsy or whatever and write 10 good old fashioned rock songs and put out another album.
Maybe he knows he can't write rockers without Izzy, Duff and Slash around? I just wish they would have left Brian May's guitar work on Catcher in the Rye intact. The demo version is far better than the finished product that ended up making the album.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

No need to do an in-store pick-up.

I picked up the CD today and it rang up at $1.99; I was going to try to price-match, but it wasn't necessary.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper View Post
Axl is still a talented songwriter.

I wish he'd give up trying to be artsy or whatever and write 10 good old fashioned rock songs and put out another album.
It'd be nice, but he's more into trying to be Elton John.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Guns N' Roses Plot First U.S. Tour in 5 Years

Veteran rockers Guns N' Roses are heading back on the road for their first major U.S. tour in 5 years, the band announced on Wednesday. The Axl Rose-fronted group will play more than 30 concerts, starting Oct. 28 at Orlando's Amway Center Arena, and then wind through markets small (Greenville, SC) and large (Chicago).

To warm up for the road trip (sponsored by Monster Energy), Guns will first headline the last day of the Rock in Rio festival in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on Oct. 2. They spent much of 2010 on a world tour that spanned South America, Canada and Europe.

Their sets at last year's Reading and Leeds festivals did not go over well, however. At both, the band showed up late and received choruses of boos from the crowd. Rose even declared "war" on Leeds organizers for cutting the band's set short.

Aside from Rose, the ever-fluid Guns N' Roses lineup includes keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, guitarists DJ Ashba, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and Richard Fortus, longtime bassist Tommy Stinson, and Frank Ferrer on drums.

The band has not released an album since 2008's "Chinese Democracy," which peaked at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 chart.

The Tour Will Visit the Following Cities:
Oct. 28: Orlando (Amway Center Arena)
Oct. 29: Miami (American Airlines Arena)
Oct. 31: Greenville, SC (Bi-Lo Center Arena)
Nov. 2: Atlanta (Phillips Arena)
Houston
Nov. 5: Dallas (Gexa Energy Pavillion)
Omaha, NE
Tulsa, OK
Nov. 12: Kansas City, MO (Sprint Center Arena)
Nov. 13: Minneapolis (Target Center Arena)
Chicago (All State Arena)
East Rutherford, NJ
Hartford, CT
Wilkes-Barre, PA
Worcester, MA
Camden, NJ
Detroit
Cincinnati
Nashville
Indianapolis
Denver

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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by gerrythedon View Post
[B]

The Tour Will Visit the Following Cities:
Oct. 28: Orlando (Amway Center Arena)
Oct. 29: Miami (American Airlines Arena) Cancelled
Oct. 31: Greenville, SC (Bi-Lo Center Arena) Cancelled
Nov. 2: Atlanta (Phillips Arena)
Houston Cancelled
Nov. 5: Dallas (Gexa Energy Pavillion)
Omaha, NE Cancelled
Tulsa, OK Cancelled
Nov. 12: Kansas City, MO (Sprint Center Arena) Cancelled
Nov. 13: Minneapolis (Target Center Arena) Cancelled
Chicago (All State Arena)
East Rutherford, NJ Cancelled
Hartford, CT
Wilkes-Barre, PA Cancelled
Worcester, MA Cancelled
Camden, NJ
Detroit Cancelled
Cincinnati
Nashville Cancelled
Indianapolis
Denver Cancelled
I can see into the future.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

No St. Louis?
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Though I loathe the man that is Axl Rose, he is still one of my favorite singers of all time. That said I finally attended two concerts of this incarnation of Guns N Roses last year, and I was blown away by how terrific Axl sounded.
Although essentially a cover band, they do their job extremely well.

I'm not the only one hoping for a reunion of the original GNR, however as Axl is insane* this does seem highly unlikely. So if you feel it's enough for you to hear Axl's voice, then by all means don't hesitate!


*= There are enough people in the business that claim it. Hard to deny it.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Lol....in the past 20+ years, no one's ever denied that Axl's insane. Including former band members.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by gerrythedon View Post
[B]To warm up for the road trip (sponsored by Monster Energy), Guns will first headline the last day of the Rock in Rio festival in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on Oct. 2.
I just find it odd that they still qualify as a headlining act for such a large event. Yes, they were on top of the world at one point, and were absolutely amazing, but the crater they landed in was every bit as deep as the height of their success. They only have 1 original member and have released 1 lackluster album in the last two decades. Do people really want to hear what is essentially a cover band playing "Welcome to the Jungle" that badly?
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

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Do people really want to hear what is essentially a cover band playing "Welcome to the Jungle" that badly?
Essentially a cover band? Give me a fucking break.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Guru Askew View Post
Essentially a cover band? Give me a fucking break.
Aside from Rose, the ever-fluid Guns N' Roses lineup includes keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, guitarists DJ Ashba, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and Richard Fortus, longtime bassist Tommy Stinson, and Frank Ferrer on drums.

Give me a fucking break.
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Originally Posted by Jason View Post
Aside from Rose, the ever-fluid Guns N' Roses lineup includes keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman, guitarists DJ Ashba, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and Richard Fortus, longtime bassist Tommy Stinson, and Frank Ferrer on drums.

Give me a fucking break.
Name one cover band that featured the original band's frontman/primary songwriter. Just ONE. And don't try to be cute by saying "Guns N' Roses."

That's what I thought.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Guru Askew View Post
Name one cover band that featured the original band's frontman/primary songwriter. Just ONE. And don't try to be cute by saying "Guns N' Roses."
Kiss.
That's what I thought.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

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Kiss.
Fail.

Half of KISS (Gene & Paul) are the main singer/songwriters of the band. (yes, Ace wrote the best songs and Peter wrote and/or sang their biggest hit, but they weren't the main singer/songwriters of the band).

Gene & Paul are still in KISS to this day.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Call me crazy but I still don't completely get the hate for this album, it wasn't classic Guns N' Roses but it was okay. I don't necessarily know that I'd go out of my way to see them in concert though. Ticketmaster notified me that they were coming to my area and I thought about it for a little bit, but then I saw that Jerry Seinfeld was doing stand-up there the weekend after and decided to go to that instead.

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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth View Post
Fail.

Half of KISS (Gene & Paul) are the main singer/songwriters of the band. (yes, Ace wrote the best songs and Peter wrote and/or sang their biggest hit, but they weren't the main singer/songwriters of the band).

Gene & Paul are still in KISS to this day.
And playing the same damn tired setlist over and over again. And dressing up other guys as Ace and Peter. I love KISS to death, but they're another costumed tribute band at this point.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

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And playing the same damn tired setlist over and over again. And dressing up other guys as Ace and Peter. I love KISS to death, but they're another costumed tribute band at this point.
Yes, but the point was that they still have more than 1 original member in the band...Paul and Gene. Kiss used to be my favorite band, but they have definitely gotten tired and old.
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Yes, but the point was that they still have more than 1 original member in the band...Paul and Gene. Kiss used to be my favorite band, but they have definitely gotten tired and old.
But being tired and old and playing the same stuff over and over doesn't make them a cover band. I think Gene Simmons has even said they'd have an officially-sanctioned KISS tribute act take their place when they're too old. When that happens, that's a cover band.

If Axl died and a new frontman took his place with everyone else in the current band that would be a cover band (I would't argue that Dizzy Reed playing on UYI-era songs would disqualify them from cover band status) but again, we're talking about the frontman/primary songwriter. The case can be made that the current incarnation is a glorified Axl Rose solo project but a cover band it's not.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy View Post
Kiss.

"Kiss" is the worst band in the history of all time times infinity! Yes i'm trolling I'm trolling
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Guru Askew View Post
If Axl died and a new frontman took his place with everyone else in the current band that would be a cover band (I would't argue that Dizzy Reed playing on UYI-era songs would disqualify them from cover band status) but again, we're talking about the frontman/primary songwriter. The case can be made that the current incarnation is a glorified Axl Rose solo project but a cover band it's not.
I just realized that since the current incarnation of Axl's band probably plays at least one song from chinese democracy, they really aren't a cover band. But if they were called the Axl Rose Experience instead of GNR, they would be playing in 300 seat nightclubs instead of a Brazilian soccer stadium.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Nobody appreciates a good Top Secret reference anymore
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

Originally Posted by Jason View Post
I just realized that since the current incarnation of Axl's band probably plays at least one song from chinese democracy, they really aren't a cover band. But if they were called the Axl Rose Experience instead of GNR, they would be playing in 300 seat nightclubs instead of a Brazilian soccer stadium.
Q: Why did you choose to keep the GUNS N' ROSES name rather than create a new name?

Axl: "Why keep the name? I'm literally the last man standing. Not bragging, not proud. It's been a fucking nightmare but I didn't leave GUNS and I didn't drive others out. With Slash, it's been nothing more than pure strategy and saving face while manipulating the public like he used to me. I earned the right to protect my efforts and to be able to take advantage of our contract I'd worked hard for where Slash's exact words were that he didn't care. I get that some like a different version or lineup the same way some like a specific team line up or a particular year of a specific car but because you and I are getting played I'm supposed to throw the baby out with the bath water?"



And the principal songwriters for Chinese Democracy have also left (Buckethead, Robin Finck and Brain). So they are still technically a cover band.
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

So did anybody check out the Rock In Rio performance of last night?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCCDoxntU5M

Downright embarrising at the 4:48 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apjsjfI9OM8

Axl's expression really speaks for itself on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Bkw4vsHt8

Only positive thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D04Tm9IMiNs
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Re: GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08

what time did they finally go on? I gave up at around 130 am

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