Kiss - I was made for lovin you
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THis was no more a threadcrap than was your posts citing Pink Floyd & U2. The OP simply asked for opinions and duly received one.
I can see this thread descending into trashtalking and name-calling etc but I'll leave it open for those that a) can transcend such behaviour or b) just need enough rope.
I can see this thread descending into trashtalking and name-calling etc but I'll leave it open for those that a) can transcend such behaviour or b) just need enough rope.
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Two of my favorite versions of the song....
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People can hate on IWMFLY all they want for being a Disco Sell Out or whatever. But the truth is it's a great song and KISS really turns it up a notch when doing it live. I know people who hate KISS but still like that song.
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"I Was Made for Loving You" was proof positive that "KISS Meets the Phantom" wasn't just a fluke, and the band was indeed on a downward spiral into camp.
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Anyway, some info for the uneducated. The song was initially written as a lark, just to prove how easy it was to write a song in that style (disco). The fact that it became a huge hit despite that, says more about the "general" music listening/buying public that it does about the band.
Personally, a bit of a guilty pleasure - but I much prefer the way the band performs it currently. It least it has some balls now.
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Spoken like a true non-KISS fan. Tell that to Paul Stanley, because I'm sure he'd have some issue with it. Same for Ace and Peter. Gene, on the other hand, well I can't defend him so much.
Anyway, some info for the uneducated. The song was initially written as a lark, just to prove how easy it was to write a song in that style (disco). The fact that it became a huge hit despite that, says more about the "general" music listening/buying public that it does about the band.
Personally, a bit of a guilty pleasure - but I much prefer the way the band performs it currently. It least it has some balls now.
Anyway, some info for the uneducated. The song was initially written as a lark, just to prove how easy it was to write a song in that style (disco). The fact that it became a huge hit despite that, says more about the "general" music listening/buying public that it does about the band.
Personally, a bit of a guilty pleasure - but I much prefer the way the band performs it currently. It least it has some balls now.
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As to, "Let's Put the X in Sex," that's a crap song, IMO. Most bands have crap songs during their careers - at least if they last past the first or second album. If you survive for 35 years it's almost impossible NOT to have an entire album's worth of crap songs spread out over that span of time.
KISS, on the other hand, have written and recorded some of the absolute best Hard Rock songs ever. "Strutter," "Firehouse," "Cold Gin," "Deuce," "100,000 Years," "Black Diamond," "Got To Choose," "Hotter Than Hell," etc, etc, etc. Great songs.
The singles do not do them justice. Well, some do, some don't. People tend to remember the fluff, unfortunately, and either never hear or forget the really good stuff (because it never gets on the radio).
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This song kicks ass!
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I didn't actively go into a Pink Floyd or U2 thread and say "they suck and are horrible", which I believe is the defintion of "threadcrap".
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I also don't need an excuse for the Dynasty album, because I've got no problems with it. I like it, you don't. End of discussion on that point. You wanna know more, head on over to the other KISS thread we got going (although somehow, I doubt you will).
As for "Let's Put The X In Sex" - as has already been pointed out, this song and Dynasty were 10 years apart, so what's one thing got to do with the other? Other than the fact that both were co-written with Desmond Child (maybe that's the problem?), and were performed by KISS, that's the only connection. However, while I like "I Was Made...", I too think "X In Sex" is pure crap. But, as B5Erik pointed out EVERY band, especially one that's been in the biz as long as they have, makes the occasional crap song here and there. EVERY band. Even the ones you like, that I'm sure others of us here don't, too. But just for your information, even Paul Stanley, the guy who co-wrote the song, isn't too proud of it either. Here's a few direct quotes about it from the horse's mouth in the book that accompanied the KISS boxset...
- It's sometimes difficult to talk about songs because it can be misconstrued. In retrospect, "X In Sex" was the best I could do at the time. So once again the effort was 100%. However, in a life span of band as long as ours, there are bound to be missteps and downright falls.
This song is way too cute for me, and derivative in a way that goes beyond being influenced by something and being obliterated by it. It's a song I have no real feelings for except it was again a blessing in that MTV played it and kept us in the spotlight at a time when music, when rock and roll was certainly not in it's finest hour.
It came from Smashes, Thrashes & Hits, which was a "best of" compilation that featured two new songs - both of which I had hand in, both of which I wish I hadn't had hands.
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As TOO many people have mentioned, "Lets Put The X In Sex" was not on Dynasty, and in fact was released TEN YEARS after I Was Made For Loving You. And that DYNASTY has a bunch of really good, NON-disco songs on it, but I doubt you've ever listened to a lick of it. I'm not going to argue that KISS didn't devolve into self-parody more than a few times, but they have enough quality in much of their material (especially in the early phase, my personal favorite (debut album, Hotter Than Hell, Dressed To Kill, Alive!)) that to relegate them to the status of "novelty band" is just plain stupid.