Anyone think that music just keeps getting worse as time goes on?
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
Oh, and I *love* how people say to stop looking to MTV for good music... like MTV has had anything to do with music over the past decade or so...
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Originally Posted by spainlinx0
People who think music is getting worse remind me of an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn.
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Well, as for me I started buying cd's in 1987 and followed the BILLBOARD charts upto the early 90's. I liked black R&B and white rock music. I noticed as a music lover I didn't like black R&B anymore , because black music was all rap coming out. And as for rock the pop metal and classic rock bands of the 70's & 80's weren't getting any airplay. And MTV where you can see and hear music during channel surfing wasn't showing videos anymore. ANd the black music I did like were samples from 70's music.
And the new rock bands didn't have any guitar gods like the 60's,70's and 80's.
So I a once music lover didn't leave music.
The talent in music left me in the 90's.
So much so I became one of those that got into country and Shania Twain.
And the new rock bands didn't have any guitar gods like the 60's,70's and 80's.
So I a once music lover didn't leave music.
The talent in music left me in the 90's.
So much so I became one of those that got into country and Shania Twain.
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I started buying LPs around 1970 and continued into the mid-nineties. Van Halen's "Balance" was just as cool to me as Aerosmith's "Toys in the Attic" in high school. I was in my late 30s and really getting into Tesla, Wildside and Tora Tora(what happened to them?). I still pick up releases from the "old guys" and like Velvet Revolver and Three Doors Down but just don't hear that much I feel like running out and buying. To satisfy my craving for new stuff to listen to I went retro and started spending money on 60s garage rock(this stuff is great!), 60's surf guitar and 1950's rock &roll/rockabilly stuff. Started buying stuff like Sun records collections and wanting to get into some blues stuff. Those Chess box sets are on my radar.
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Originally Posted by spainlinx0
People who think music is getting worse remind me of an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn.
(Cue KISS, "Hooligan." Love Gun album, 1977 - when music was still good. )
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I think there is more good music than ever. Unfortunately, that's also a problem. With so much good, and bad, music, there probably won't be "classic" albums any more. Those old "classic" albums didn't have as much competition as there is today.
Music consumption has changed as well. When I was younger, I'd buy an album and listen to it over and over again for months. Now, I buy albums quite often, and don't listen to them over and over. At least not without being interspersed with other albums, so it can drag out over years.
Also, as I get older, I'm starting to dig deeper into genres. This means I'm finding music that a lot of people haven't listened to. While still being great music, the albums will never reach "classic" status. Hell, they probably won't even reach "gold" status.
All in all, people who don't think music is just as good now as it was 20-50 years ago just aren't looking. This is no different than the people who think movies were better 30 years ago than they are today. I imagine people will be saying the same thing 40 years from now.
Music consumption has changed as well. When I was younger, I'd buy an album and listen to it over and over again for months. Now, I buy albums quite often, and don't listen to them over and over. At least not without being interspersed with other albums, so it can drag out over years.
Also, as I get older, I'm starting to dig deeper into genres. This means I'm finding music that a lot of people haven't listened to. While still being great music, the albums will never reach "classic" status. Hell, they probably won't even reach "gold" status.
All in all, people who don't think music is just as good now as it was 20-50 years ago just aren't looking. This is no different than the people who think movies were better 30 years ago than they are today. I imagine people will be saying the same thing 40 years from now.
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
Well... GET OFF MY DAMNED LAWN YOU HOOLIGAN!!!
(Cue KISS, "Hooligan." Love Gun album, 1977 - when music was still good. )
(Cue KISS, "Hooligan." Love Gun album, 1977 - when music was still good. )
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What's getting better or at least noteworthy?
Dance music - yes - see Justice
Metal music - some - see Mastodon, Meshuggah, Necrophagist
Rock music - no - since the 90's I think only Muse and Queens Of The Stone Age (yes both late 90's but still) have come to proove that there's still something to be made out of rock music.
Pop music - there's a reason it's called pop, it's popular at a specific moment in time, eventually fading away from trend to trend, so nothing's notable.
Rap music - some artists do deliver, Dizzee Rascal springs to mind.
Dance music - yes - see Justice
Metal music - some - see Mastodon, Meshuggah, Necrophagist
Rock music - no - since the 90's I think only Muse and Queens Of The Stone Age (yes both late 90's but still) have come to proove that there's still something to be made out of rock music.
Pop music - there's a reason it's called pop, it's popular at a specific moment in time, eventually fading away from trend to trend, so nothing's notable.
Rap music - some artists do deliver, Dizzee Rascal springs to mind.
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Rock music - no - since the 90's I think only Muse and Queens Of The Stone Age (yes both late 90's but still) have come to proove that there's still something to be made out of rock music.
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Originally Posted by The Black
What's getting better or at least noteworthy?
Dance music - yes - see Justice
Metal music - some - see Mastodon, Meshuggah, Necrophagist
Rock music - no - since the 90's I think only Muse and Queens Of The Stone Age (yes both late 90's but still) have come to proove that there's still something to be made out of rock music.
Pop music - there's a reason it's called pop, it's popular at a specific moment in time, eventually fading away from trend to trend, so nothing's notable.
Rap music - some artists do deliver, Dizzee Rascal springs to mind.
Dance music - yes - see Justice
Metal music - some - see Mastodon, Meshuggah, Necrophagist
Rock music - no - since the 90's I think only Muse and Queens Of The Stone Age (yes both late 90's but still) have come to proove that there's still something to be made out of rock music.
Pop music - there's a reason it's called pop, it's popular at a specific moment in time, eventually fading away from trend to trend, so nothing's notable.
Rap music - some artists do deliver, Dizzee Rascal springs to mind.
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
All in all, people who don't think music is just as good now as it was 20-50 years ago just aren't looking. This is no different than the people who think movies were better 30 years ago than they are today. I imagine people will be saying the same thing 40 years from now.
I wonder if it's just harder to get into new music when you're older. Music seems to take some effort to enjoy when you aren't used to hearing the sound. You almost have to develop an appreciation, and even grow accustomed to new albums. How often on first listen did you only enjoy an album moderately, but as you continued to listen over and over it continued to move up spots on your all-time favorite list? And maybe that's the problem. As you get older you don't have the free time you did when you were younger to listen to an album repeatedly and really get into it.
Movies on the other hand are easier to get into at first watch. You may appreciate a movie more upon subsequent viewings, (or less as the newness wears off and you see flaws you missed upon first viewing) but you usually don't go from hating a movie at first to putting it in your top 10.
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Originally Posted by JOE29
Oh, and I *love* how people say to stop looking to MTV for good music... like MTV has had anything to do with music over the past decade or so...
Yeah. if you can get past those reality teen age date shows you maybe able to find a crappy music video
Yeah. if you can get past those reality teen age date shows you maybe able to find a crappy music video
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Originally Posted by The Black
Rock music - no - since the 90's I think only Muse and Queens Of The Stone Age (yes both late 90's but still) have come to proove that there's still something to be made out of rock music.
And you're overlooking the whole alt-country movement -- Wilco, Kathleen Edwards, Jolie Holland, Cat Power, the Jayhawks, Po' Girl, Be Good Tanyas -- and the current wave of French pop -- Air, M83, Justice, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Keren Ann, Yelle.
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
I think there is more good music than ever. Unfortunately, that's also a problem. With so much good, and bad, music, there probably won't be "classic" albums any more. Those old "classic" albums didn't have as much competition as there is today.
Music consumption has changed as well. When I was younger, I'd buy an album and listen to it over and over again for months. Now, I buy albums quite often, and don't listen to them over and over. At least not without being interspersed with other albums, so it can drag out over years.
Also, as I get older, I'm starting to dig deeper into genres. This means I'm finding music that a lot of people haven't listened to. While still being great music, the albums will never reach "classic" status. Hell, they probably won't even reach "gold" status.
All in all, people who don't think music is just as good now as it was 20-50 years ago just aren't looking. This is no different than the people who think movies were better 30 years ago than they are today. I imagine people will be saying the same thing 40 years from now.
Music consumption has changed as well. When I was younger, I'd buy an album and listen to it over and over again for months. Now, I buy albums quite often, and don't listen to them over and over. At least not without being interspersed with other albums, so it can drag out over years.
Also, as I get older, I'm starting to dig deeper into genres. This means I'm finding music that a lot of people haven't listened to. While still being great music, the albums will never reach "classic" status. Hell, they probably won't even reach "gold" status.
All in all, people who don't think music is just as good now as it was 20-50 years ago just aren't looking. This is no different than the people who think movies were better 30 years ago than they are today. I imagine people will be saying the same thing 40 years from now.
Wow! I agree with this 100% I do buy and consume too much music nowadays to the point where I don't even know the lyrics to a lot of my favorite albums just because I don't listen to them enough. I'm constantly looking and listening for new artists.
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Originally Posted by spainlinx0
It's funny you bring this up because I do not see this problem with movies as often. However when it comes to music it seems people cannot move past the music they heard in their teens and college years. They consider the music during that era the best, and newer music will never top it. However you rarely see people say all movies today are shit, and that the movies they saw in HS and college will never be surpassed.
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Wow! I agree with this 100% I do buy and consume too much music nowadays to the point where I don't even know the lyrics to a lot of my favorite albums just because I don't listen to them enough. I'm constantly looking and listening for new artists.
So much good stuff, not enough time.
But all the music I do hear out & about in public (the gym, restaurants, etc...) is mostly pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by spainlinx0
It's funny you bring this up because I do not see this problem with movies as often. However when it comes to music it seems people cannot move past the music they heard in their teens and college years. They consider the music during that era the best, and newer music will never top it. However you rarely see people say all movies today are shit, and that the movies they saw in HS and college will never be surpassed.
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
I actually have seen a lot of Star Wars/Indiana Jones type fans who actually are that way. They hate all current movies unless a new installment in those franchises come out, and live in a 1970's/1980's movie timewarp
Lately been listening to the latest albums by Interpol, LCD Soundsystem, and M.I.A.; it's been covering my emotional gamut.
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Headbangers Ball on MTV2 every Saturday at midnight.
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
I actually have seen a lot of Star Wars/Indiana Jones type fans who actually are that way. They hate all current movies unless a new installment in those franchises come out, and live in a 1970's/1980's movie timewarp
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. So they don't have a beef. Now as far as music goes there are no guitar gods period..
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
I admit that in many ways I do prefer music of the 70's, 80's and even 90's, but there are more than enough current artists out there to keep me from cashing it in and becoming an old man who refuses to listen to anything past 1991 like some people I know
One thing I will admit to in my older age is that I have a dividing line of Pre/Post-Nirvana as where my respect goes towards alternative acts. While I love plenty of alt-rock post 1991, I feel more admiration for bands before that time because many of them toiled in obscurity. Nirvana came along and opened the floodgates and made it easier for many. In the 80's I never dreamed I'd see Jr. High kids listening to what I was listening to in college.
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Originally Posted by atlantamoi
I think I probably listen to a 50/50 mix of old and new. I was listening to the Fleet Foxes yesterday and wondering how anyone can bitch about new music.
One thing I will admit to in my older age is that I have a dividing line of Pre/Post-Nirvana as where my respect goes towards alternative acts. While I love plenty of alt-rock post 1991, I feel more admiration for bands before that time because many of them toiled in obscurity. Nirvana came along and opened the floodgates and made it easier for many. In the 80's I never dreamed I'd see Jr. High kids listening to what I was listening to in college.
One thing I will admit to in my older age is that I have a dividing line of Pre/Post-Nirvana as where my respect goes towards alternative acts. While I love plenty of alt-rock post 1991, I feel more admiration for bands before that time because many of them toiled in obscurity. Nirvana came along and opened the floodgates and made it easier for many. In the 80's I never dreamed I'd see Jr. High kids listening to what I was listening to in college.
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I listen to new stuff only if it's new stuff by classic rockers such as Bruce Springsteen, The Eagles, etc. And I'm only 19. I've given the other new stuff a chance and it just lacks something. Passion, maybe? I don't know.