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Old 07-03-08, 09:39 PM
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"Entered the '80s"

Because, for whatever reason, the '80s were when a lot of formerly awesome '60s/'70s-era bands started to blow some serious chunks.

(Not to say there weren't some great bands in the '80s, but most of those great ones formed either in the '80s or in the late '70s)
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"Smelled the Glove"
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Originally Posted by cultshock
As far as KISS' history goes, that's not really a good analogy though. "Recording The Elder" (or maybe Dynasty or Unmasked)* would make more sense. Taking off the makeup was the beginning of them starting to regain their popularity to some degree.
But the whole concept of JtS isn't popularity, it's a matter of artistic content being worse after that moment.

Some would argue that after the makeup came off, Kiss wasn't as good of a band. and some feel the opposite. A personal taste, I guess.

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"Graham Coxon left when..." band X changed dramatically for the worse.
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
another one, sort of in line with my last post is Queen + Paul Rodgers. Queen without Freddie is Nirvana without Cobain or The Beatles without Lennon
or AC/DC without Bon Scott....oh wait a second.....
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or AC/DC without Bon Scott....oh wait a second.....
What took you so long?
Old 07-04-08, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fuzzbox
I'll cast a vote for:

"took off their makeup"

for those who remember Kiss doing it.
I'd vote for "putting the makeup back on" more than taking it off.
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Originally Posted by UAIOE
I believe that term is "sold out".
I don't believe so. You can "sell out" and still be good. Look at Pantera! They totally "sold out", changed their sound, and became 1000x better!

Most people equate "selling out" with selling a ton of records, but plenty of bands sell a ton of records and are still good (AC/DC, for example).

I think the applicable term would still be "jumping the shark".
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Originally Posted by Jason
"achieved technical ecstasy"

too obscure?
I'd vote for this one.

"Entering the 80's" sounded good too, until you realize that if you're into metal, the thrash scene was created and prospered in the '80s and there were hundreds, if not thousands, of quality underground bands.
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Originally Posted by Decker
R.E.M. singing "Shiny Happy Monsters" on Sesame Street
I really disagree with this. R.E.M. may have had a somewhat subversive political streak to their songs, make no mistake they have always been a pop band NOT a punk one.

Shiny Happy Monsters was done as a lark, for fun and in the name of educating kids. So it wasn't really going against the "ethos" of the band.

I'd say they pretty much jumped it with Around the Sun. The new album is better than that one, but it's pretty much impossible for them to ever reach what they had before.
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Originally Posted by Michael Allred
or AC/DC without Bon Scott....oh wait a second.....
AC/DC, and Van Halen are exceptions to the rule where the lead singer was replaced and the band received equal (if not greater) success.

The truth is that many bands are defined by the sound of the lead singer. Have you ever heard the two Doors albums without Morrison? Of course not, because they suck!
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Originally Posted by auto
What took you so long?
I'm getting slow in my old age.
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How about "became Chris Gaines"?

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You know, I was going to put that one in my original post, but thought people would jump down my throat for mentioning Garth Brooks. That Chris Gaines project was one of the most misguided attempts at a mainstream crossover hit I've ever seen. It was reviled by both country and pop music fans. A real "what was he thinking" moment if ever there were one.
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another one touched on earlier is "worked with Diane Warren". It didn't necessarily hurt pop and r&b singers, but it was pretty much the very end of the line for Aerosmith, Chicago and Kiss as contemporary artists and all have since done more touring for the oldies than anything since
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The whole point of the Discotheque video is lost on most folks in the first place...
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Shave your head:

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Originally Posted by Drexl
"Smelled the Glove"
Old 07-05-08, 12:44 PM
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"Went White" - referring to Michael Jackson.

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Originally Posted by GuessWho
"hired Gary Cherone"

That's just wrong. Gary rules, Eddie sucks.
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Have more artists/bands "jumped the shark" at one time than they did with the soundtrack for "Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band"?

In one fell swoop, we cleared Peter Frampton, the Bee Gees, Ew&F, Aerosmith, Billy Preston and Alice Cooper off the musical map for an extended, if not permanent vacation. Hell, even Steve Martin's next album following this debacle (Comedy is Not Pretty) ended his run of best-selling records.

So, in honor of this, I put out the phrase: "They pulled a Stigwood" and its many possible variations.
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"Nuked the fridge" is the worst phrase ever. Just completely stupid and makes no sense. But I do like some of these in this thread.
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Originally Posted by TheAllPurposeNothing
Have more artists/bands "jumped the shark" at one time than they did with the soundtrack for "Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band"?

In one fell swoop, we cleared Peter Frampton, the Bee Gees, Ew&F, Aerosmith, Billy Preston and Alice Cooper off the musical map for an extended, if not permanent vacation. Hell, even Steve Martin's next album following this debacle (Comedy is Not Pretty) ended his run of best-selling records.

So, in honor of this, I put out the phrase: "They pulled a Stigwood" and its many possible variations.

I like the thought behind what you're saying, but I don't find it to be true. Granted, it was a bit of a death knell for Frampton and The Bee Gees, but Aerosmith released one of my favorite albums of theirs - Night In The Ruts - after this movie. Same with Alice Cooper and his Flush The Fashion album. Billy Preston's day in the sun was already all but over at this point, and if anything Earth Wind & Fire only got bigger after. Steve Martin may not have sold as much, but that doesn't mean his albums weren't still great - Comedy Isn't Pretty is as good as his first two.

More than anything, I'd sum it up to changing tastes. It wasn't necessarily the movie, it was the times, and people just being over these artist by this point.
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Anyone up for starting a poll?

Personally, I like "Hired Gary Cherone", "Smelled The Glove", "Went White", "took off their makeup", and "achieved Technical Ecstacy"


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