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Originally Posted by Vryce
How hard is it to convert the flac to a format playable on a Zune?
I am going to purchase, I just want to make sure I pick the best format. The Apple lossless format is a possibility as I believe the Zune can play m4a files, which is I think what iTunes/iPod use. |
Originally Posted by TripWire
Trent will make good money on this (as artists should), the $300 edition at 2500 copies nets $750,000 alone. No marketing was needed beyond a post on the official website, letting the media take care of the rest. A new era has begun.
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I use BonkEnc to convert from flac to mp3, it's pretty versatile.
BonkEnc Also this is a nice extra, if you want to tag the FLAC with the images that were supplied with the mp3 version, use this. NIN FLAC Tagger I first used the utility to tag the FLAC with the images, then I used bonkenc to convert to mp3 and it carried over the images in the id tags..pretty nifty. And yeah I know there is overhead cost in producing a package like that, but with his resources I am sure it's not eating into his profit too much. |
even though the official webpage only offers part of the total ghosts i-iv tracks, the entire thing is free and legal to download because it is *all* under creative commons.
tpb has all formats up and they are all well seeded and fast, including the flac version. it's all legal... for once. |
However, given the time and effort put into it by Trent and co., if you can afford the $5 for the downloadable version, it would be a good thing to spend your money on.
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Originally Posted by TripWire
I use BonkEnc to convert from flac to mp3, it's pretty versatile.
BonkEnc Also this is a nice extra, if you want to tag the FLAC with the images that were supplied with the mp3 version, use this. NIN FLAC Tagger I first used the utility to tag the FLAC with the images, then I used bonkenc to convert to mp3 and it carried over the images in the id tags..pretty nifty. And yeah I know there is overhead cost in producing a package like that, but with his resources I am sure it's not eating into his profit too much. I got the flac version and used WinAmp to convert to wave, then imported via iTunes to get mp3. Then put the mp3 on my Zune. I haven't listened to it yet. But, if the above goes right from flac to mp3 and can carry the tags, images of each song, that is better. I had to retag every track when I did the method I described above. |
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
However, given the time and effort put into it by Trent and co., if you can afford the $5 for the downloadable version, it would be a good thing to spend your money on.
$5 is the least amount of money a brand new album (let alone a double-album) has ever cost, as far as I know. $10 for the physical CDs is also quite a steal (no pun...). I assume, when it hits retail stores, it will still be about the same price. |
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
However, given the time and effort put into it by Trent and co., if you can afford the $5 for the downloadable version, it would be a good thing to spend your money on.
I played the first three "volumes" on my radio show last night. LOTS of calls with positive feedback. I just wish there was something Trent could do to help out "Mom 'N Pop" record stores.. Well, the ones that are left, that is.. |
Originally Posted by Rogue588
^ QFT.
I played the first three "volumes" on my radio show last night. LOTS of calls with positive feedback. I just wish there was something Trent could do to help out "Mom 'N Pop" record stores.. Well, the ones that are left, that is.. |
hell, for $5, I'm not even a fan of NIN (I like some songs here and there and own an album or two), but I'm probably going to check it out. There's much worse I've could spend $5 on.
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How large is the LAME zip file?
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I was finally able to download this. A cool album, overall. I kind of wish it was melded together, as I think it would flow better and resolve the issue of short song length.
Itunes takes care of that, though. Good product, Trent. I like the instrumental, not-really-going-anywhere, tunes. |
I grabbed this of TPB a few days ago...plan on listening to it tomorrow. If this is as good as I think it will be, I would pay $300 for the deluxe edition. Or whatever the others are.
And I feel that if the industry did more of this, sales would go up. No BS, no middlemen, no price gouging, that is OK by me. |
Downloaded it last week from the NIN site - $5, mp3 version. I was playing around with getting the lossless, but I wanted to burn to CD here at work so I could listen on the way home. I'm not a huge audio-phile and none of my sound hardware is high-end, so I don't think I'll even notice a difference.
It's really good by the way. A little strange to hear instrumental in this genre, but once the expectations wear off it is quite decent. |
A lot of industrial music is instrumental, or at least it used to be.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
This report back in Jan. showed that Trent was a little let down that not enough folks paid for the album oppose to those who just downloaded it for free.
I'm digging the Ghosts. I've always been a fan of their instrumental stuff. A nice mellow, groovy, ambient album for $5 is money well spent. |
Originally Posted by SomethingMore
$10 for the physical CDs is also quite a steal (no pun...). I assume, when it hits retail stores, it will still be about the same price.
How much is shipping? |
Originally Posted by TripWire
I use BonkEnc to convert from flac to mp3, it's pretty versatile.
BonkEnc Also this is a nice extra, if you want to tag the FLAC with the images that were supplied with the mp3 version, use this. NIN FLAC Tagger I first used the utility to tag the FLAC with the images, then I used bonkenc to convert to mp3 and it carried over the images in the id tags..pretty nifty. And yeah I know there is overhead cost in producing a package like that, but with his resources I am sure it's not eating into his profit too much. |
Originally Posted by DJLinus
I'm definitely going to go the CD route (hey, I like having a physical copy of the music and artwork), but not sure if I will pre-order it through the NIN site or wait until it hits stores.
How much is shipping? |
Originally Posted by jdslater1
Any chance for a link to your radio show?!
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Originally Posted by Imail724
Cost $6.99 to have it shipped to me in NY.
I guess by voting with my money, my vote's for "release a physical CD in stores, as well" - which is what I feel anyway. |
I gave Trent and co. my $5 last night and just got the download but haven't listened to it yet. I know I will love it though because I'm such a huge fan. I have just about everything Trent has ever done.
Is this for sure coming out in retail stores? I really want a physical CD copy but didn't do the $10 pre-order thing. I see people's comments on here about "when it hits stores" but has there been any official word on a retail release yet? |
Originally Posted by DJLinus
Thanks. That's kind of steep. Is that through USPS? I guess I'll just wait until it hits stores (I don't really NEED a digital copy right away). If the stores keep the price of the CD the same or even raise it a couple of bucks, the sales tax would surely still be cheaper than the shipping cost. I love Trent and what he's doing, but money's tight right now.
I guess by voting with my money, my vote's for "release a physical CD in stores, as well" - which is what I feel anyway. |
Nine Inch Nails album earns $1.6 million on Web
DENVER (Billboard) - The online release of the new Nine Inch Nails album, "Ghosts I-IV," resulted in just under 800,000 transactions in its first week, totaling $1.6 million in revenue, the industrial-rock band has revealed. The tally includes free and paid downloads, as well as advance orders for physical configurations like various limited-edition vinyl releases, CDs, and a boxed set. "Ghosts I-IV," the band's first release since becoming a free agent last October, went on sale March 2 at its Web site, http://www.nin.com. Fans can receive the first nine songs from the 36-track project for free, or can pay $5 for the entire digital album. NIN will not release traditional sales figures to SoundScan, whose data are used to compiled the Billboard 200 albums chart. A $10 double-CD set will reach stores on April 8. A $70 deluxe edition and a $300 autographed version will ship May 1. After Nine Inch Nails' contract with Interscope expired, the label released a remix album, "Y34RZ3R0R3MIX3D." The band's last studio release, "Year Zero," debuted at No. 2 on the Billboard 200 last April with 187,000 copies. Reuters/Billboard -------------------------- Not bad for an instrumental album!! |
NIN/Radiohead Smackdown!
Trent Reznor: Radiohead's 'In Rainbows' promotion was 'insincere' Posted by Greg Sandoval | 24 comments (Credit: NIN.com)Radiohead's groundbreaking promotion for the album In Rainbows was "insincere" and smacked of a "bait and switch," according to Trent Reznor, leader of the group Nine Inch Nails. Reznor made the comments during an interview with the Australia Broadcasting Corporation earlier this week. "I think the way [Radiohead] parlayed it into a marketing gimmick has certainly been shrewd," Reznor said. "But if you look at what they did, it was very much a bait and switch, to get you to pay for a MySpace quality stream as a way to promote a very traditional record sale." The In Rainbows promotion was distributed online, without backing from a major record company and allowed fans to pay whatever they thought the digital album was worth. Radiohead was widely praised for breaking from the label system. But Radiohead's manager has also said that the band likely wouldn't try a similar promotion again. The British super group ended the offer and has begun selling the record through traditional sales channels. "I don't see that as a big revolution [that] they're kind of getting credit for," Reznor told the Australia Broadcasting Corporation on Monday. "There's nothing wrong with that, but I don't see that as a big revolution [that] they're kind of getting credit for...to me that feels insincere. It relies upon the fact that it was quote-unquote 'first,' and it takes the headlines with it." Reznor has a point. There's no arguing that Radiohead's music giveaway pioneered new territory, but when it comes to actually plowing ahead with a determined search for a new way to distribute music, Radiohead falls short. The truth is that Reznor, who at times is volatile--and is always outspoken--is doing more for music fans and fellow musicians than anybody. Earlier this month, Nine Inch Nails began distributing a digital album, Ghosts I-IV a 36-track instrumental, in a range of ways. The offer included free samples, a $5 digital version and premium packages that came with downloads, discs, and varying merchandise depending on the money one was willing to pay. In a little over a week, Reznor told The Chicago Tribune that he generated 781,917 transactions and earned $1.6 million. Radiohead may have earned more and likely gathered information valuable to other artists who might be considering self-distribution. We don't know because, unlike Reznor, the band isn't sharing sales numbers. What is so sad about these promotions by Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead is that, other than Reznor, few artists are tinkering with the Internet or looking for an alternative to the traditional business model in the music industry. We're talking about rock 'n' roll here. It was once rumored to be the domain of rebels and rogues. How come more performers aren't bucking the status quo? http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-989...terstitialskip |
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