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Parcher 01-22-08 07:40 AM

"Hurt" - NIN vs. Cash
 
To comment on this you obviously need to have heard both versions - the Nine Inch nails one, and the Johnny Cash cover.

Which do you like better?

I heard the Cash cover first..and I really liked it. But I have to say, after hearing the original, I think it's superior. Not vastly, but quite some.

I made this a non-poll so people will write instead of just vote. Am interested to hear your opinions.

Randy Miller III 01-22-08 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Parcher
To comment on this you obviously need to have heard both versions - the Nine Inch nails one, and the Johnny Cash cover.

Which do you like better?

I heard the Cash cover first..and I really liked it. But I have to say, after hearing the original, I think it's superior. Not vastly, but quite some.

I made this a non-poll so people will write instead of just vote. Am interested to hear your opinions.

I've got to go with the original version, but the Cash remake is about as good as they come. :up:

dadaluholla 01-22-08 07:51 AM

If we're just going by the song itself, I would pick the original NIN version.

However, if you throw the video into the equation, then I might give the edge to Johnny Cash. His Hurt video is incredibly moving.

sauce07 01-22-08 08:01 AM

The Hurt video (Cash) is very moving and I love the NIN version but the soul that Johnny put into his recording is haunting. truely an amazing record.

DVD Josh 01-22-08 08:26 AM

Both are great. No need to make a competition out of it.

chris_sc77 01-22-08 08:54 AM

I think my favorite version of the song might be the Live version on the Ann All That Could Have Been cd. The video of the Cash version however is amazing however. So auditorily I give the win to NIN but visually The cash/Romanek version wins.

wishbone 01-22-08 09:54 AM


September 12, 2003
Trent Reznor on Johnny Cash's "Hurt"

"By the end I was really on the verge of tears. At the end of it, there was just dead silence. There was, like, this moist clearing of our throats and then, 'Uh, okay, let's get some coffee."

-Trent Reznor, describing his reaction to watching Johnny Cash's video of the song "Hurt," originally written and performed by Reznor's Nine Inch Nails. "Hurt" appeared on the America IV: The Man Comes Around album. (Source: Quoted in Spiritual Journeys: How Faith Has Influenced 12 Music Icons)
http://www.monkeyouttanowhere.com/qu.../12_11_15.html

In Other Words: Trent Reznor : Rolling Stone

Original is great and Cash sang it like it was his song.

enrage 01-22-08 10:06 AM

I read in an article that Trent will never sing Hurt again in concert because he thought the Johnny Cash cover was perfect.
he said, there's no way he could put feeling into like Cash did.

SFranke 01-22-08 11:04 AM

Sad Kermit. All the way.

orangecrush 01-22-08 03:41 PM

The Cash version (especially the video) just seems like one of the most emotionally moving songs I have ever heard. I would have to go with it.

fumanstan 01-22-08 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by SFranke
Sad Kermit. All the way.

First thing I thought of.

But I like NIN.

superdeluxe 01-22-08 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Parcher
To comment on this you obviously need to have heard both versions - the Nine Inch nails one, and the Johnny Cash cover.

Which do you like better?

I heard the Cash cover first..and I really liked it. But I have to say, after hearing the original, I think it's superior. Not vastly, but quite some.

I made this a non-poll so people will write instead of just vote. Am interested to hear your opinions.


I love NIN, but Cash's rendition, you could feel the 'pain' much more. I dunno, it made it so much more real.

So I say Cash.

bearkiss 01-22-08 06:21 PM

NIN period... especially the 5.1 version on the dvd audio or the sacd!

mndtrp 01-22-08 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by enrage
I read in an article that Trent will never sing Hurt again in concert because he thought the Johnny Cash cover was perfect.
he said, there's no way he could put feeling into like Cash did.

I'm not sure when this article came out, but he's played it at pretty much every concert up to their most recent one, a few months ago. I do know he's stated it's "not his song anymore", but I don't think he's ever said he wouldn't play it live again. He did say he wouldn't ever play With Teeth live again, which I believe. That song is terrible.

NIN's version is better to listen to, Cash's version is better with the video.

briank 01-22-08 09:48 PM

same as many others:

song - NIN
video - Cash

both are GREAT.

Gerry P. 01-22-08 10:30 PM

Hurt was always my least favorite track on "The Downward Spiral". For me, the Johnny Cash version was a revelation.

monkeyboy 01-23-08 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by enrage
I read in an article that Trent will never sing Hurt again in concert because he thought the Johnny Cash cover was perfect.
he said, there's no way he could put feeling into like Cash did.

Well, I think he's wrong in that statement. I don't doubt that he's paying some lip service to Cash with a statement like that. Reznor's version of Hurt is just as compelling to me, actually more compelling because it's about his own life.

We all love Cash and it's sad that he died. If he were still alive, I doubt this would even be a topic.

MrE 01-25-08 09:51 AM

Cash's cover is so painful I can't watch the video without tearing up ... and that was when he was alive.

CKMorpheus 01-25-08 10:58 AM

The track itself, NIN is the one to beat.

But as for the video, since NIN didn't actually put out a Hurt video (was a live video, if I recall) the Cash one is definitely up there. Makes me tear up every time I watch it.

Flynn 01-26-08 12:13 AM

Ok, again: Song: NIN, Video: Cash

Mr. Salty 01-26-08 04:29 PM

Not to take anything away from NIN, but Cash's version is the best.

PopcornTreeCt 01-26-08 05:24 PM

Johnny Cash.

It always seemed like just another song until Johnny Cash made it so much more than it was.

NORML54601 01-26-08 06:24 PM

Cash

Supermallet 01-26-08 10:06 PM

I have to go with Johnny Cash here. Trent Reznor's version (which I do like) was essentially a teenage song of despair. Cash turned it into a personal elegy and invested more emotion into it than Reznor has been able to up to this point in his life. Who knows, when Trent is older he might be able to come close to Cash's version.

Brack 01-27-08 01:18 AM

The original is the best, since, you know, Trent wrote it and all, and I grew up on NIN. That said, Cash's is still good.

BeanDip 01-27-08 08:09 AM

I like both versions but after watching the video for Cash's I was hit with one thought... he is ready to die and is watching his life go before his eyes.

Then I forget how much later (half-year or so?) I hear that Johnny passed away.

joefrog91 01-27-08 11:51 AM

I agree that Cash's version is the better of the two. When NIN released the Downward Spiral, I was 25 and one year away from hitting rock bottom with my alcoholism and drug use. The song did have some meaning for me and I connected with the song. However, it wasn't until I watched the Johnny Cash video did I truly connect with the song in a deeper way. Seven years into my sobriety, I could reflect with a clearer head how my addictions "hurt" myself and others around me. I could see how other people my age - and even younger - have all passed me by in achievements and career because I was too busy getting high and drunk. I believe I cried the first time I saw the video.

Mikael79 01-27-08 08:17 PM

The Nine Inch Nails version has always been a killer song to me, but it's hard to top Cash's version. I still choke up whenever I watch the video or listen to the song. Not many artists can take a newer, well-known song and make it a whole new living creature, but Cash did.


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