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aintnosin 10-24-07 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by salamander2
Where is Don Felder?

He was fired from the band in 2001.

cungar 10-24-07 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by salamander2
Where is Don Felder?

His absence took a lot away from the last time I saw them. Even though they had an amazing guitarist, he just seemed like a hired studio hack who was there to wow the crowd. Felder was an average guitarist but he was a long time member and is sorely missed.

whotony 10-29-07 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by derekjet
I want to personally thanks these old farts for instituting the jacking up of prices to all rock concerts when they first reunited.

agreed, and now they up the ante', apparently getting a boatload of dough to be exclusive to walmart for a year.

DaveWadding 10-30-07 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by aintnosin
He was fired from the band in 2001.


Yeah it kinda sucks. When he joined the band is when they really really got interesting to me. The 2 songs he contributed to on On the Border are scorchers (Already Gone and Good Day in Hell) and it just got better for them from there.

Decker 10-30-07 09:40 AM

Well, it's finally here. I can't believe I'm finally picking up the album that I expected to get shortly after Hell Freezes Over came out in the mid-90's. Will be stopping by Wal-Mart (shudder) on my way home today. Looking forward to listening to it tonight.

Rolling Stone Review (3 1/2 out of 5 stars)

Long Road Out of Eden," the ten-minute centerpiece of this two-CD, twenty-song album, epitomizes everything that is familiar, surprising, overstretched and, in many ways, right about the entire set. The song echoes the title hit of 1976's Hotel California, the Eagles' defining monument to mirage, money and no escape. But this time the desert is overseas and oil is the new champagne. When drummer Don Henley sings, "Now we're driving dazed and drunk" in a grainy, plaintive voice, it is an entire nation at the wheel, "bloated with entitlement, loaded on propaganda."
That is brassy censure from a band that, in the Seventies, embodied Hollywood vainglory, shining its klieg-light guitars and vocals on the low roads through high living with an often wicked insight that only comes from knowing each mile intimately. But there is a potent restraint to "Long Road Out of Eden," in the bleak, hollow mix of acoustic guitar and electric piano in the verses and the overcast sigh of the harmonies. There is empathy, too, for the soldier on night patrol, with dirty work to do and everything to lose. "I'm not counting on tomorrow/And I can't tell wrong from right," Henley sings. "But I'd give anything to be there in your arms tonight." That's not self-interest -- just the purest need.

The resemblance in title between this album and the Eagles' last studio record, 1979's The Long Run, is no coincidence. Henley and singer-guitarist Glenn Frey, the band's surviving founders, have always written and sung about asphalt and distance : getting as far from responsibility as possible, crawling home, bruised and maybe wiser, when the fun runs out. And making Long Road Out of Eden was a protracted haul in itself. Henley, Frey, guitarist Joe Walsh and singer-bassist Timothy B. Schmit reportedly worked on the album for six years, and the Topanga-country gallop "How Long" goes back much further. Written by veteran compadre J.D. Souther, it is a previously unrecorded relic of the group's early-Seventies live sets.

But the Eagles' original studio albums were all models of clenched-gleam detail, and Long Road suffers from sprawl. "Center of the Universe" makes the most of its bare bones -- the circular-staircase effect of the guitars -- and "Waiting in the Weeds" lets the lyrics carry the impatience ("I heard some wise man say that every dog will have his day/He never mentioned that these dog days get so long"). But Schmit's sweetly sung spotlights are Eighties-ballad sugar. Walsh's "Last Good Time in Town" is a wry cantina-swing sequel to "Life in the Fast Lane" -- staying home apparently is the new going out -- and he cuts through the salsa-lounge grooming with James Gang-era guitar. Seven minutes, though, is a long time to sing about doing fuck-all.

Henley and Frey still find easy pickings in bad behavior. In "Fast Company," Frey affects a Prince-like falsetto over a chilled-funk stroll, playing an old-timer who can't even remember the action he used to get. "Busy Being Fabulous" is classic Eagles saloon-band shine about an errant filly, except this one is a mom who can't tell the difference between raising kids and being one. And Henley may be having a grim laugh at the Eagles' own expense in the materialist rant "Business as Usual": "A barrel of monkeys, a band of renown/But business as usual is breakin' me down."

Nothing, of course, is business as usual in the music industry, and the Eagles, now running their own label, have chosen Wal-Mart as the album's exclusive retailer. There is an inevitable contradiction in buying a record that attacks corporate greed and blind consumerism in songs like "Do Something" and "Frail Grasp of the Big Picture" from a superchain with a bleak record on employee rights and health care. But Long Road Out of Eden is available direct at Eaglesband.com for $11.88, a bargain even with the misfires -- and worth it for the title song alone.



DAVID FRICKE


cungar 10-30-07 10:59 AM

Not a bad album but those Timothy Schmidt icky sweet love songs stop the album in it's tracks. Does this guy know how to write anything but dull love songs? I never thought he fit in with the band, especially when they toughened up their sound and started rocking out a bit more.

ringside 10-30-07 11:55 AM

Didn't realize this was out. I will be picking it up today.

atlantamoi 10-30-07 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by cungar
Not a bad album but those Timothy Schmidt icky sweet love songs stop the album in it's tracks. Does this guy know how to write anything but dull love songs? I never thought he fit in with the band, especially when they toughened up their sound and started rocking out a bit more.

I was stunned by how wimpy so many of the songs are, especially on CD 1. This music sounds like it could have come out one year past "The Long Run" and would have fit in with so much of that scary Top 40 soft rock from 1981.

I'll have to give it more listens to see if I change my mind, but I still can't believe they'd release material like this in 2007.

SexualPudding 10-30-07 03:12 PM

I also consider Timothy B. Schmit's material to be shit for the most part, although I must admit, "I Can't Tell You Why" is one of my favorite Eagles songs.

zombiezilla 10-30-07 07:10 PM

Well, I'm not too impressed by the new stuff I've heard (four tracks so far). It sounds like throwaways/filler from the early records...no fire at all. Especially the crappy single. No one I've asked has liked it, yet I hear it on every rock station, regardless of genre (classic, oldies, new rock, alternative [!] )

movieking 10-30-07 07:20 PM

I really like the double CD. It's not great throughout, but it does have its moments.

As for Felder, he's written a book that reveals a lot of dirt on the Eagles. I think that it is blocked from release in North America for now, but it will be released in the UK soon.

Celtic Bob 10-31-07 02:04 AM

Never had it at my local Wal Mart.
Many Joe Walsh songs?

wm lopez 10-31-07 11:29 PM

These rock legends are old and you can't expect them to put out music as good as they did 30 years ago. Give em a break.

whotony 10-31-07 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by movieking

As for Felder, he's written a book that reveals a lot of dirt on the Eagles. I think that it is blocked from release in North America for now, but it will be released in the UK soon.

how do you figure that?

how would it be blocked and how would you know that?

atlantamoi 11-01-07 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by wm lopez
These rock legends are old and you can't expect them to put out music as good as they did 30 years ago. Give em a break.

Why give them a break? Plenty of older artists have made worthy albums. Uh, let's see... Johnny Cash. Springsteen. John Fogerty. Robert Plant's new material. The list goes on.

ben12 11-01-07 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by atlantamoi
Why give them a break? Plenty of older artists have made worthy albums. Uh, let's see... Johnny Cash. Springsteen. John Fogerty. Robert Plant's new material. The list goes on.

I also thought Fleetwood Mac's recent album was excellent.

aintnosin 11-01-07 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by atlantamoi
Why give them a break? Plenty of older artists have made worthy albums. Uh, let's see... Johnny Cash. Springsteen. John Fogerty. Robert Plant's new material. The list goes on.

I haven't listened all the way through yet, but I hope it doesn't turn out to be a glorified Don Henley album.

ringside 11-01-07 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Celtic Bob
Never had it at my local Wal Mart.
Many Joe Walsh songs?

I've only listened to it once so far, but I think there is only one.

zombiezilla 11-01-07 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by atlantamoi
Why give them a break? Plenty of older artists have made worthy albums.

COMPLETELY agree. This Eagles CD is lame, and could have (SHOULD have) been far better.

movieking 11-01-07 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by whotony
how do you figure that?

how would it be blocked and how would you know that?

Because of news reports about the book being blocked. They also mentioned some general tidbits in the report, like major drug use, etc.

movieking 11-02-07 08:08 AM

The book is actually released in the UK now, so you can find many reviews and excerpts if you do a search.

nazz 11-02-07 05:11 PM

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A-aron 11-05-07 07:51 AM

Been listening to this for just about a week now. Not bad. Certainly better than the majority of shit they try to pass off as music these days. I certainly hear a few songs that could get decent play on the Adult Contemporary or Country stations. $12 well spent for me.

ben12 11-05-07 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by achau9598
Been listening to this for just about a week now. Not bad. Certainly better than the majority of shit they try to pass off as music these days. I certainly hear a few songs that could get decent play on the Adult Contemporary or Country stations. $12 well spent for me.

How Long, Somebody, and You Are Not Alone are really great songs. I guess I'm just a little disappointed that none of the songs rocked as well as Get Over It or Already Gone.

ringside 11-05-07 06:56 PM

These things are selling like crazy on ebay. I bought it for $12 at walmart, ripped it, and sold it used on ebay for $20. Weird world.


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