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Smashing Pumpkins: Zeitgeist - 7/7/07

Old 06-22-07, 09:31 AM
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Screw 'em. I won't buy any of them, if this is how they want to market it.
Old 06-22-07, 09:39 AM
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Pitchfork is full of whiny bitches.
Old 06-22-07, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by starseed1981
Pitchfork is full of whiny bitches.
Seems like a very valid complaint to anyone that doesn't just download shit and it doesn't affect anyway. The title track only at Target thing really is a kick in the nuts, even if the song sucks and was left off the standard release for that reason.
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Pitchfork may be whiny and the headline is of course a bit harsh but the overall premise is pretty on point if you ask me. I for one hate exclusive tracks even when they are only available at one store. The idea of doing three exclusives and three different stores is pretty ridiculous. It really doesn't seem to serve any purpose other then trying to get people to buy multiple copies of the album. At least if it was one store then it's a clear band (or label)/retail establishment promotion.
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Pardon me, I just never can turn down an opportunity to say something negative about pitchfork. But yeah, I agree that it does seem like they are trying to gauge fans for money.
Old 06-22-07, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingINClip
Screw 'em. I won't buy any of them, if this is how they want to market it.
I will gladly purchase one copy of the album. I will however, "acquire" the remaining bonus tracks without having to purchase additional copies.

Honestly, I would venture to guess that most of these bonus tracks are probably not worth it under any circumstance. Billy tends to be right on with what he does and doesn't put on an album (Zero EP excepted).
Old 06-22-07, 10:21 AM
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Doomsday clock music and riffage is great, my problem with it is Corgan's dry vocals in front of the mix.
Old 06-22-07, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TripWire
Doomsday clock music and riffage is great, my problem with it is Corgan's dry vocals in front of the mix.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. Kinda reminds me of the Zwan album where he doesn't really sing on any songs. His voice just kinda crawls alongside them (like the chorus of "The Everlasting Gaze" for example).
Old 06-22-07, 10:42 AM
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Well, as much as I abhor this practice of store-exclusives, I would've ended up buying it at Best Buy (or Target) anyways, as they would likely have the lowest prices (not to mention all the indy record stores in my neck of the woods went out of business long ago).

Now the question is, which is the superior bonus track?
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Yeah I would have picked it up at either of those stores too...i'd also like to know which of those songs is better.



Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Billy tends to be right on with what he does and doesn't put on an album (Zero EP excepted).
I hear that. "Zero" is easily the CD i listen to most from the "Aeroplane" boxset.
Old 06-22-07, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by UAIOE
Yeah I would have picked it up at either of those stores too...i'd also like to know which of those songs is better.





I hear that. "Zero" is easily the CD i listen to most from the "Aeroplane" boxset.

I find the '1979' and '33' onres to be the best, but the Zero one is pretty great as well.

-Paul Jacobi-
Old 06-22-07, 12:33 PM
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Wheres the love for "Bullet" and it's awesome retro covers?
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Originally Posted by starseed1981
Wheres the love for "Bullet" and it's awesome retro covers?
clones is a fun version of the song.
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BWBW is the best of those singles.

Clones, You're All I've Got Tonight, and Destination Unknown are all AWESOME songs.

The Zero single would be second, for Pistachio Medley.
Old 06-25-07, 02:11 AM
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Will buy the album and download the extras...
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I didn't see anyone mention this yet...it looks like there's going to be a limited edition available at certain places. I'm not sure what the LE includes, but right now it looks to only include a booklet of some sort. The crappy thing is that I doubt the LE at Best Buy includes the bonus track....so it'll be an either/or situation.
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Originally Posted by starseed1981
Pardon me, I just never can turn down an opportunity to say something negative about pitchfork. But yeah, I agree that it does seem like they are trying to gauge fans for money.

I am sure the band has limited say in how the record label markets its music.

And if it was about gauging fans for money, do you really think they would have charged 20$ and play a club in north carolina?

Come on people, think.
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don't worry, they'll gouge on the arena tour
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5 versions - regular edition with 12 songs... target with one bonus track... best buy regular edition with one bonus track... deluxe limited edition with booklet... and itunes version with one bonus track... and according to the best buy web site, the deluxe edition with booklet does NOT come with the best buy exclusive bonus track... you have to buy the "regular" edition there for that song...
Old 06-26-07, 01:53 PM
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That's pretty lame... looks like the regular BB version for me. I'll find a way to get the other songs. Itunes won't let you download just the one track right?
Old 06-26-07, 06:50 PM
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anybody heard who will have the best price yet?
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Originally Posted by auto

Best Buy:

01. Doomsday Clock
02. 7 Shades of Black
03. Bleeding the Orchid
04. That's the Way (My Love Is)
05. Tarantula
06. Starz
07. United States
08. Neverlost
09. Death From Above (bonus track)
10. Bring the Light
11. (Come On) Let's Go!
12. For God and Country
13. Pomp and Circumstances
First off, I hate this horrible market trend.

However, sirendisc.com lists 'Death From Above' as the b-side to the UK 'Tarantula' single [both CD and 7"] out next week. Just as a heads up.

Target it is, then.
Old 06-26-07, 08:58 PM
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photo of the deluxe edition anywhere? that's remotely interesting...
Old 06-29-07, 11:17 AM
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http://music.aol.com/radioguide/all-...pumpkins-radio

Smashing Pumpkins are on AOL radio. Right now. I don't wanna install the program on my computer to play this. But apparently Zeitgeist is streaming on the channel. Anybody with AOL care to confirm? Because if this is correct a leak should be available by end of day today.
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Tuesday's show in Asheville. I videotaped it and will get the DVD up sometime.

http://www.archive.org/details/tsp20...26.m300.flac16

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