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cactusoly 01-11-07 08:41 PM

Black Sabbath... er Heaven and Hell to tour North America with [various artists]
 
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=65121[/url]

I just about crapped myself when I saw this, Montreal here I come

porieux 01-11-07 10:27 PM

Wait, Geezer and Iommi are onboard? Why aren't they just calling it Black Sabbath??

cdollaz 01-11-07 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by porieux
Wait, Geezer and Iommi are onboard? Why aren't they just calling it Black Sabbath??

I'm sure it has something to do with Ozzy's bitch.

paulringodaman 01-11-07 10:53 PM

ive seen black sabbath with all the original members so im good!!!

porieux 01-11-07 10:56 PM

The early Sabbath albums with Ozzy are the best, but I bet the live show in 2007 will be better with Dio than with Ozzy. He's pretty much lost it.

porieux 01-11-07 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I'm sure it has something to do with Ozzy's bitch.


But they obviously have the right to the name, since they've used it all along.
Not that I disagree, she's def a biatch.

The Cow 01-11-07 11:02 PM

Here's the previous thread talking about the "reunion"

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=478972

kmcrowl 01-12-07 07:58 AM

Cant wait for this show. Last time Dio/Black Sabbath toured they skipped KC. Had to go to Neb. to see them. This is shaping up to be a great winter for shows. Saw In Flames-Lacuna Coil last month. Slayer, Lamb Of God and Shadows Fall shows coming up!

covenant 01-12-07 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by paulringodaman
ive seen black sabbath with all the original members so im good!!!

So have I, but you'd be missing some of their arguably best album material.

dvduser6 01-12-07 10:55 AM

It would be great to have the second half of their live set be "The Mob Rules" in its entirety. I would definitely be in the audience for that experience.

cdollaz 01-12-07 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Jippy
It would be great to have the second half of their live set be "The Mob Rules" in its entirety. I would definitely be in the audience for that experience.

Yes. I would love to hear Falling Off The Edge Of The World.

B5Erik 01-12-07 10:41 PM

Dio is the man!

For me, Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Ronnie James Dio, and Vinnie Appice!

Better songs, better performances, better band!

turborobb 01-17-07 02:21 AM

I love Ozzy but Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are two of the greatest metal albums of all times. Anything Dio does rocks. I can't wait to see them... no matter what name they have it's still Black Sabbath to me.

Also Headless Cross with Tony Martin singing was an awesome Sabbath album.

dvdsteve2000 01-17-07 06:18 PM

I heard a radio interview with Ronnie James Dio & he said Motorhead wouldn't be touring with them, Megadeth is replacing them.

zombiezilla 01-17-07 07:22 PM

MANNNNN that sucks about Motorhead!!!

porieux 01-17-07 11:53 PM

Bummer. Megadeth bit the big one a long time ago. Motorhead are so much better.

Ozzy's Bat Head 01-18-07 02:42 AM

Hold Up; Megadeth's last album was amazing! Let's not be so quick to sweep our old heroes off the porch.

Down has been one of my fave's since NOLA back in 96, I'm hoping Phil sticks with this project. This is going to be a great tour; looks like I'm heading to Vancouver in March.

Ozzy's Bat Head 01-18-07 02:43 AM

Hold Up; Megadeth's last album was amazing! Let's not be so quick to sweep our old heroes off the porch.

Down has been one of my fave's since NOLA back in 96, I'm hoping Phil sticks with this project. This is going to be a great tour; looks like I'm heading to Vancouver in March.

zombiezilla 01-18-07 04:24 AM

Megadeth are fine, it's just that they are often on tour here compared to Motorhead, who definitely deserve a little more popularity here.

porieux 01-18-07 04:41 AM

Well IMO Megadeth were never all that. Matter of opinion right?
But Mustaine is a born again xtian now...yippeee!

zombiezilla 01-18-07 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by porieux
Mustaine is a born again xtian now...yippeee!

NO F'N WAY...really? Or are you j/k?

The Cow 01-18-07 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
NO F'N WAY...really? Or are you j/k?

He's serious. That happened a coupla years ago.

cactusoly 01-23-07 09:58 AM

its now official, and yes Megadeth replaces Motorhead. (I like em both but would rather have Motorhead) getting my tix tomorrow

zombiezilla 01-23-07 07:10 PM

Well, now it will depend on how much tix are....or if I can score some freebies. If Motorhead was on the bill, though, I'd have bought the best seats I could've.

porieux 01-23-07 07:59 PM

Was any reason given for the downgraded lineup?

cactusoly 01-24-07 08:01 PM

got my tix for Montreal today \m/

benedict 02-02-07 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jeb Wright/CRR
[....] Classic Rock Revisited recently
conducted an interview with BLACK SABBATH/HEAVEN AND
HELL bassist Geezer Butler. A few excerpts from the
chat follow:

Classic Rock Revisited: When did you first hear about
[the possibility of a HEAVEN AND HELL tour]?

Geezer: I knew that Tony [Iommi] met Ronnie [James
Dio] and that they had written two or three songs. We
are going to be putting out the anthology CD of the
Dio years of SABBATH. Rhino asked us if we could come
up with some new stuff to put on it. Ronnie and Tony
wrote three new songs. Word got out about it and we
started getting tour offers. We started putting a tour
together to go with the album release. I went over to
England and put the bass down on it and that was that.
The album will come out in [April].

Classic Rock Revisited: Are there future plans yet or
are you going to see how the tour goes?

Geezer: It is just a year-long thing. Because of
things that happened in the past we don't want to
press our luck. Everyone is happy with a year-long
tour.

Classic Rock Revisited: Bill Ward was going to be
involved.

Geezer: Bill was involved originally. Bill was in the
studio when I went over there but he didn't want to
tour so he didn't go any further with it.

Classic Rock Revisited: You played together back in
the '80s and the '90s and the band was called BLACK
SABBATH. Now you are HEAVEN AND HELL. Why is the name
different this time around?

Geezer: Back then SABBATH was dead and buried, as far
as Ozzy is concerned. The record company insisted on
calling us BLACK SABBATH and we were contracted that
way. I think Tony wanted to carry on with the name
BLACK SABBATH anyway. Due to the restoration of the
original SABBATH now, we couldn't go out that way. We
didn't want to confuse everyone by going out this time
as BLACK SABBATH with Ronnie and then next year going
out as SABBATH with Ozzy. Both things are hopefully
going to be ongoing.

Classic Rock Revisited: SABBATH is still alive?

Geezer: Yeah. With the original BLACK SABBATH lineup
that did the reunion, we have really only played North
America and a few European places. We have always
wanted to do a world tour.

Classic Rock Revisited: You have not visited the
Dio-era SABBATH material for some time. Has it been
easy for you to revisit those songs?

Geezer: No, it has been really hard. For this tour we
are doing strictly Dio-era songs. Apart from "Neon
Knights", "Heaven and Hell" and "Mob Rules" ? which we
have done live before ? we have not done a lot of the
others live. There are several songs we have never
played live. We are playing a lot of stuff for the
first time since we recorded it. It is hard to
remember what you played on a lot of these songs.

Classic Rock Revisited: Are you just putting the CD on
and playing along with it trying to figure out your
parts?

Geezer: Absolutely. The stuff that we have played a
lot before is not a problem but there is a lot of
stuff on "Dehumanizer" that we never played. I don't
even remember recording half of it. Those songs have a
lot of tempo and time changes which make it quite hard
to do them. For the last two weeks I have been going
through all these songs at home. We are going to be
getting together for two weeks of rehearsal soon.
Everyone is doing their homework right now and then we
will get together and bang it out.

Classic Rock Revisited: You will play no Ozzy-era
material at all?

Geezer: No, we are not doing any of that. The Ozzy
thing is still ongoing so I think it is best to keep
them totally separate.

Classic Rock Revisited: Were there any hard feelings
from Ozzy when you guys wanted to do this?

Geezer: I think he got a bit upset at first when he
thought we were going to go out as BLACK SABBATH. When
I told him that we were not going to do that then he
was fine with it.

:rock2:

cdollaz 02-02-07 10:34 AM

Evil woman, LOOK OUT!

cdollaz 03-13-07 03:01 PM

Got pretty good tix for Houston last night.

The Cow 04-19-07 02:06 AM

So... has anyone seen this one yet? (or just a bump if it is just starting, cuz I know there are dates in a couple days, not sure if those are the first)

I'm going in a coupla weeks and am curious what the set list looks like (spoilerized, of course).

cactusoly 04-19-07 08:32 AM

I saw the montreal show, incredible. The setlist for the tour so far can be found here.

http://www.black-sabbath.com/tourdates/2007.html

On a side note I got to see the line up with Down, the entire show was great. I dont mind missing Machine Head since I saw them with Lamb Of God a week earlier.

B5Erik 04-19-07 08:50 PM

I'm going to the San Diego show next Thursday (4/26). I can't wait! I saw Sabbath in '94 with Tony Martin and Bobby Rondinelli (FANTASTIC show), but this is the REAL deal with DIO!

B5Erik 04-26-07 03:58 PM

Well, I'm heading out to pick up my friend and go to the show. I'll post here tomorrow what I thought about it.

Did anyone here go to the L.A. show?

B5Erik 04-27-07 10:35 AM

So....

Machine Head? The less said the better.

The Dave Mustaine Band, errr, Megadeth? Very good - if a bit generic other than Mustaine. The guys in the band were all competent, but had almost no personality - unlike most guys who have been in Megadeth. Mustaine needs Ellefson back badly. Still, good set list and solid performances - and Dave was at his best.

Black Sabbath, errr, Heaven and Hell? In a word, WOW! Dio is the man. He's still got it - in his early (mid?) 60's he can outsing and outperform most guys half his age. He had the audience in the palm of his hand - and in typical Dio fashion won them over by showing appreciation and respect for the audience. Tony Iommi smiled and had fun on stage like I've never seen. Geezer was Geezer, and Vinnie Appice was outstanding and had neat drum racks on either side of his kit that he could pull forward at an angle and beat the snot out of the drums and then let it go and it would rock back and forth like it was going to fall over - but they were obviously set NOT to fall over. A cool visual "performance enhancer," that gave him more of a chance to be a showman.

As a band Black Sabbath, errr, Heaven and Hell (I keep doing that...) were tight and powerful, and played a great set list. It was nice to see them freed from the Ozzy era material. They could really focus on what this line-up does best. I should also mention that the stage set/show was fantastic - it was like the best shows from the 80's. A BIG presentation, but at the same time also very modern.

Like I noted above, I saw Black Sabbath in 1994 with Tony Martin and Bobby Rondinelli. It was a great show. The show last night blew that one away.

Tony and Geezer should forget working with Ozzy (at least for a year or two) and do a full new album with Dio. The chemistry is there and stronger than ever.

I expected a really good show, but what I got was one of the best I've ever seen.

dvduser6 04-27-07 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by B5Erik
So....

Machine Head? The less said the better.

The Dave Mustaine Band, errr, Megadeth? Very good - if a bit generic other than Mustaine. The guys in the band were all competent, but had almost no personality - unlike most guys who have been in Megadeth. Mustaine needs Ellefson back badly. Still, good set list and solid performances - and Dave was at his best.

Black Sabbath, errr, Heaven and Hell? In a word, WOW! Dio is the man. He's still got it - in his early (mid?) 60's he can outsing and outperform most guys half his age. He had the audience in the palm of his hand - and in typical Dio fashion won them over by showing appreciation and respect for the audience. Tony Iommi smiled and had fun on stage like I've never seen. Geezer was Geezer, and Vinnie Appice was outstanding and had neat drum racks on either side of his kit that he could pull forward at an angle and beat the snot out of the drums and then let it go and it would rock back and forth like it was going to fall over - but they were obviously set NOT to fall over. A cool visual "performance enhancer," that gave him more of a chance to be a showman.

As a band Black Sabbath, errr, Heaven and Hell (I keep doing that...) were tight and powerful, and played a great set list. It was nice to see them freed from the Ozzy era material. They could really focus on what this line-up does best. I should also mention that the stage set/show was fantastic - it was like the best shows from the 80's. A BIG presentation, but at the same time also very modern.

Like I noted above, I saw Black Sabbath in 1994 with Tony Martin and Bobby Rondinelli. It was a great show. The show last night blew that one away.

Tony and Geezer should forget working with Ozzy (at least for a year or two) and do a full new album with Dio. The chemistry is there and stronger than ever.

I expected a really good show, but what I got was one of the best I've ever seen.

Thanks for the review. I was really close to getting tickets for the LA show, but decided against it since I despise the Forum. I'd really love to hear them do a new album or at least film the current tour for a live DVD.

Officer Cartman 04-27-07 12:37 PM

If anyone's interested in going to the Cleveland show, I've got some extra tickets that I'm looking to unload - Really great seats too!

cdollaz 04-27-07 01:04 PM

I'm going next week and looking forward to it. Did they play Lonely Is The Word or Ear In The Wall?

B5Erik 04-27-07 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I'm going next week and looking forward to it. Did they play Lonely Is The Word or Ear In The Wall?

Nope. They played Ear In The Wall for at least a couple shows, but dropped it from the set list. Still, it was a great hour and fifty minutes. You can always nit pick a little about set lists, but this one was pretty solid. Not perfect, but what they wanted to play - and they had a good time playing it.

cdollaz 04-27-07 05:43 PM

Yeah, the set list is solid for the most part. I would take out Lady Evil, Voodoo, and I and replace them with Country Girl, Slipping Away, and TV Crimes.

B5Erik 04-27-07 06:44 PM

I waited 26 years to hear Lady Evil and Voodoo live. No way would I take them out of the set list - especially not for Country Girl and Slipping away (two similar, but lesser songs). Then again, if you just wanted to add Country Girl and Slipping Away I wouldn't be opposed to that - but that would take the show over 2 hours and I don't know how Ronnie, Tony, Geezer, and Vinnie would feel about that!

Actually, the only songs that they didn't play that I wanted to hear were Time Machine and Turn Up The Night. Other than that I loved the set list...

(And Lady Evil and Voodoo sounded AMAZING live!)


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