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Tscott 12-22-06 10:00 PM

I don't know if this is quite what this thread is about but, I just got done watching three seasons of The L-Word on DVD. I recognized Leisha Hailey, who plays Alice, as one of the "This is good" Yoplait yogurt girls ("This is shoe shopping for chocolate covered heels good", etc.). I then looked her up on the internet and found out she was also half of the band The Murmurs. They had some noterity with a cover of "White Rabbit" and the songs "You Suck" and "La-Di-Da" in the 90s. I owned a few of their CDs for 10 years give or take and never connected her with them before.

Also, I remember seeing the video for "Joey" by Concrete Blonde in 1990 and thinking that Johnette Napolitano was Ann Wilson from Heart. I kept watching the video and wondering why her sister wasn't in the video until it got to the end and I realized that it was an entirely different band.

Lee Harvey Oswald 12-22-06 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000

But in my years of working in a music store, I've heard some good one's now and then. Two that come to mind as examples...
4 Non Blondes - "What's Up?" mistaken for Heart (Ann Wilson) or Rush (Geddy Lee).

What do they say when you tell them Geddy Lee is not a woman?

In regards to your non-quoted post: Some of the songs people confuse are songs that are not in the genre they typically listen to.

Rocketdog2000 12-22-06 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Lee Harvey Oswald
What do they say when you tell them Geddy Lee is not a woman?


Their usual response - believe it or not - would be "That's a girl singing?" (on the 4 Non Blondes tune, that is).

Hollowgen 12-22-06 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
Their usual response - believe it or not - would be "That's a girl singing?" (on the 4 Non Blondes tune, that is).

not to digress too much, but i think that's why linda perry has gone on to produce rather than sing ;)


as for me, i just realized the other day that "showdown" is actually an ELO song. i had always thought they were exclusively bombastic and orchestral

Giantrobo 12-23-06 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
No offense to anyone here, but I don't think there's ever been a time I confused one band with another. Being a big music fan/collector, and working in the music business for the last 20 odd years - I am the guy most people I know go to, to find out who does do what song and that type of thing. I can always tell when someone is more what I would term a "casual music listener" because they often do confuse one artist's sound with another - where as I tend to hear all the differences, instead of the similarities. To me, there is just no way I would confuse sub genres of music (say Brit Pop and Alt Rock for instance), while the average guy would say "sounds all the same to me".

And because of this, I would likely get a barrage of crap from my friends if I was wrong about something, too - as they always expect me to know everything. One of those "You, don't know?!" kind of deals.

But in my years of working in a music store, I've heard some good one's now and then. Two that come to mind as examples...
4 Non Blondes - "What's Up?" mistaken for Heart (Ann Wilson) or Rush (Geddy Lee).
Spin Doctors - "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" mistaken for Steve Miller Band.

Best. Music. Fan. Ever.

:p

Luther Heggs 12-23-06 09:24 AM

I'm continually amazed at how many people think Aretha Franklin sang "Rescue Me."

wendersfan 12-23-06 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
No offense to anyone here, but I don't think there's ever been a time I confused one band with another.

I could say the same thing, but I didn't really want to post that and basically ridicule everybody else who's posted here. It just didn't seem all that polite to me.

:shrug:

Jason 12-23-06 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by cungar
Gloria.

I never knew that was Them.

rotfl

You win.

:lol:

chino77 12-24-06 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by Hollowgen


as for me, i just realized the other day that "showdown" is actually an ELO song. i had always thought they were exclusively bombastic and orchestral

same here i didnt know it untill i recently got their greatest hits.

Buttmunker 12-24-06 09:05 AM

"Baseball" by Ozma.

I was so convinced it was a Weezer b-side, I included it on a mix-CD of Weezer B-sides. Now that I do know, I'm still relunctant to remove it.

Rocketdog2000 12-24-06 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
I could say the same thing, but I didn't really want to post that and basically ridicule everybody else who's posted here. It just didn't seem all that polite to me.

:shrug:


Hence the "No Offense" part, as it's not my intent to ridicule anybody, either. Just stating that I've never encountered the problem.

If I wanted to ridicule someone, I'd just flat out say something along the lines of "people were all a bunch of idoits" - then I could see where you might have a point in thinking I might have insulted anyone. However, since that was not my intent, and I started with a discalimer, thought that would pretty much clear up any misconceptions. But, that's one of the lovely things of communicating via posts, instead of real conversation. Things tend to get lost in translation.

Giantrobo 12-25-06 10:13 AM

When I first got into KISS I thought Ace sang "Cold Gin" but it was Gene.

mllefoo 12-25-06 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by The Bus
mh4268... Same thing here. I had no idea Bowie wrote "Changes"...

Wanna hear a surprise? Iggy Pop cowrote and recorded the first version of China Girl.

Giantrobo 12-25-06 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by mllefoo
Wanna hear a surprise? Iggy Pop cowrote and recorded the first version of China Girl.

Yep. Also, Luther Vandross sang backing vocals on Bowie's song "Young Americans".

wendersfan 12-25-06 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by mllefoo
Wanna hear a surprise? Iggy Pop cowrote and recorded the first version of China Girl.

It's on <i>The Idiot</i>.

Snorker 12-25-06 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Lee Harvey Oswald
What do they say when you tell them Geddy Lee is not a woman?

In regards to your non-quoted post: Some of the songs people confuse are songs that are not in the genre they typically listen to.


Geddy Lee isn't a woman? :sarcasm:


Oh, and I always thought "stuck in the middle" by stealers wheel was bob dylan, I was surprised because I really liked it and not much of a dylan fan.

nodeerforamonth 12-26-06 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
Hence the "No Offense" part, as it's not my intent to ridicule anybody, either. Just stating that I've never encountered the problem.

So if you heard a non-album b-side from Creed, you'd be able to tell it was Creed and not Pearl Jam? Really? If so, that's pretty incredible and I'm impressed!

Cusm 12-26-06 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
So if you heard a non-album b-side from Creed, you'd be able to tell it was Creed and not Pearl Jam? Really? If so, that's pretty incredible and I'm impressed!


I have never once confused Eddie Vedder with Scott Sap. I have never cared for Creed, but really like Pearl Jam, and even when I did not "know" Creed, never confused once.

Rocketdog2000 12-26-06 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
So if you heard a non-album b-side from Creed, you'd be able to tell it was Creed and not Pearl Jam? Really? If so, that's pretty incredible and I'm impressed!

Easily. The day I couldn't tell the difference between Eddie Vedder and Scott Stapp, is the day I'd be pretty damn ashamed of myself. If you can't, or couldn't, either - well than I don't know what else to tell you. That'd be up to you, personally to decide what you thought. You might give a care less - but stuff like that matters to me. (And I'll freely cop to it being my hang up).

Also, It wouldn't be just because of the singers, either. The actual band members (musicians) play with different styles altogther. There's a pretty big difference, as far as I'm concerend, with the overall quality of musicianship and music between Pearl Jam and Creed. One band helped originate a sound, the other is simply copying it.

DX 4 Life 01-25-07 09:39 AM

Every Steve Miller Band song except "Abracadabra". I saw the commercial for his "Young Hearts" album and was like WOW, I didn't know he sang all those. I went out and picked that album out the next day.

Mondo Kane 01-25-07 10:26 AM

Found out recently that "Corporal Clegg" was written and performed by Roger Waters. Sure sounded like a Syd joint to me!

Mordred 01-25-07 10:41 AM

This isn't the kind of thing that ever really happens to me either. I do every now and then have the "Gee that singer sounds a lot like _____, but I don't think it is" and occasionly it was _____.

I can often tell guitarists just by their guitar tone when I haven't heard the song before which is cool and a little bit scary.

TimJS 01-25-07 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Yes you are. There's never been that level of guitar playing in a Dylan song, plus the lyrics are not intelligible and mumbled.
...

These things are context sensitive. I knew a number of people at the time who thought Sultans had a similar vocal delivery to 'Serve Somebody'...not that there weren't other perceivable cues.

The ones that throw me (at least the 1st few times you hear them) are pronounced breaks in tempo and production from previous songs like 'Drive' by the Cars, 'I'm Your Captain' by Grand Funk, or 'Sister Christian' by Night Ranger.

tjs

SlingshotBandit 01-26-07 05:36 PM

"That's All" by Phil Collins, or lead vocals by Collins when he was in Genesis.

I remember hearing that song when I was a week kid, in my parent's car. And it just doesn't strike me as Phil "You're in My Heart" Collins. (And I was aware of his other earlier hits, like "In the Air Tonight", "Sussudio", etc... It still doesn't strike me as a Phil song. Like it's too cool for him.) :lol:

Drexl 01-27-07 08:58 PM

Despite information to the contrary, I am still convinced that Tony Rich is an alter ego for Babyface. :)


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