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Fincher Fan 11-20-05 05:30 AM

Just to be safe in the future, I better illegally download any music released by Sony.

Mr. Salty 11-20-05 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
and since the pigs won't tell which ones have been tampered-with

Actually, Sony has been clearly marking their copy-protected CDs.

stinkeye 11-21-05 01:28 PM

Texas has filed a lawsuit:


Texas Sues Sony Under Anti-Spyware Law

AUSTIN, Texas - The state sued Sony BMG Music Entertainment on Monday under its new anti-spyware law, saying anti-piracy technology the company slipped into music CDs leaves huge security holes on consumers' computers.

The lawsuit is over the so-called XCP technology that Sony had added to more than 50 CDs to restrict to three the number of times a single disc could be copied.

After a storm of criticism, Sony recalled the discs last week.

To enforce the restrictions, the CD automatically installed the copy-protection program when discs were put into a PC — a necessary step for transferring music to iPods and other portable music players.

Attorney General Greg Abbott accused Sony BMG of surreptitiously installing "spyware" in the form of files that mask other files Sony installed as part of XCP.

This "cloaking" component can leave computers vulnerable to viruses and other security problems, said Abbot, echoing the findings of computer security researchers.

"Sony has engaged in a technological version of cloak-and-dagger deceit against consumers by hiding secret files on their computers," Abbott said in a statement.

The term "spyware" has been used broadly to cover programs that are installed without users' full knowledge and consent, whether or not they actually spy on a user's activities.

A Sony BMG spokesman didn't immediately return a call Monday morning.

Sony BMG initially rejected the uproar over XCP as technobabble.

But after security experts discovered that XCP opened gaping security holes in users' computers — as did the method Sony BMG offered for removing XCP — Sony BMG agreed last week to recall the discs.

Some 4.7 million had been made and 2.1 million sold. CDs that had XCP included releases by Van Zant, The Bad Plus, Neil Diamond and Celine Dion.

Abbott said some CDs remained in Texas stores as of Monday morning.

The Texas spyware law allows the state to recover damages of up to $100,000 in damages for each violation.

Abbott said there were thousands of violations, and that any money would go to the state.

Michael Corvin 11-21-05 01:56 PM

I have to give props to Amazon, I was getting ready to order a cd and it is clearly labeled in bold:
[SONY XCP CONTENT/COPY-PROTECTED CD]

Here is the actual CD I was going to order with a more detailed description. It is now unavailable for order.

Odd how they say Sony requested they remove it, but it is still available at other online sites.

Numanoid 11-21-05 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by masetodd
It is apparent that they were test marketing this new copy-protection scheme. It only affects 20 or so titles (and looking at that list, I can't imagine more than 20 people buying that crap).

It's on the new Neil Diamond cd which debuted at #4 on the Billboard charts (of course, now that the cds have been yanked, poor Neil's chart listing is going to drop like a stone). So quite a few people are going to end up with this.

Deftones 11-21-05 02:17 PM

Virgin Records did this with 30 Seconds to Mars' newest disc. It's a total pain in the ass. I hope they get sued too.

Mopower 11-21-05 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I guess I'm one of the last humans on Earth who only plays CD's in his cd player deck and DVD's in his DVD player. DVD's and cd's RARELY go into my computer drive. :lol:


They are pretty hard to copy if you don't put them in your DVD or CD-ROM drive.

Tracer Bullet 11-22-05 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Mopower
They are pretty hard to copy if you don't put them in your DVD or CD-ROM drive.

:rolleyes:

KShan 11-22-05 04:05 PM

Yesterday's Foxtrot:

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2005/ft051121.gif

benedict 11-23-05 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
The only reasonable method left for obtaining music is illegal download. All forms of legally acquiring music suck, and will apparently get worse as these record companies are run to the ground by brainless apes.

I've lost patience with people who are either <strike><s>too lazy or too stupid</s></strike> unable or unwilling to read the board rules &/or or the DOs & DONTs thread. Anyone who looks like advocating illegality/piracy etc is getting a week's holiday from posting.... and no correspondence will be entered into. Reminders and polite warnings clearly have had no effect.

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I guess I'm one of the last humans on Earth who only plays CD's in his cd player deck and DVD's in his DVD player. DVD's and cd's RARELY go into my computer drive. :lol:

:D Me too. I tend to use the CD player in preference to the PC. Courtesy of my amp and speakers it sounds better!

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Benedict
Moderator, Music Talk

Hollowgen 11-23-05 08:33 PM

benedict,

i'm not trying to be a pain, but i'm not sure i see how the quote from Vandelay_Inds really breaks the rules... and for the record: i have read the rules quite a few times.

TomOpus 11-25-05 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Hollowgen
benedict,

i'm not trying to be a pain, but i'm not sure i see how the quote from Vandelay_Inds really breaks the rules... and for the record: i have read the rules quite a few times.

What about this? "Anything that violates the trademark or copyright of another company including anything that may violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act."

He's also made other posts regarding illegally downloading music, so it appears he's been warned about discussing it.

Hollowgen 11-25-05 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by TomOpus
What about this? "Anything that violates the trademark or copyright of another company including anything that may violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act."

He's also made other posts regarding illegally downloading music, so it appears he's been warned about discussing it.

gotcha

benedict 11-25-05 01:09 PM

Hollowgen, I did in fact email you a reply via your given hotmail address. Perhaps it ended up in a spamtrap.

Because this thread has gone off-topic I'm now closing it. Should anyone wish to start a Part Two in which the discussion can be kept on-topic and within the rules....


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