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Brain Stew

10-07-05 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds

So, what does the record company lose when I download an album since I wasn't willing to purchase their defective CD anyway? If they had a legitimate product available that they were losing sales of, you'd have an argument.

And if the law were fairly applied, copy protected CDs would be illegal to start with.

You can argue till your blue, but all that is is a rationalization. The point is, that you enjoy the product enough to break the law even with the protection. This shows that you are still interested in the product and should therefore purchase it.

Also, I have no idea where you got the idea about the law :lol:. They hold the copyright, so they decide how it is distributed.

Mordred

10-07-05 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brain Stew

Also, I have no idea where you got the idea about the law :lol:. They hold the copyright, so they decide how it is distributed.

There is such a thing as fair use... it can convincingly be argued that the are violating it.

Brain Stew

10-07-05 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordred

There is such a thing as fair use... it can convincingly be argued that the are violating it.

Fair use is extremely vague. I don't agree with what they are doing, but what are you going to do?

Brain Stew

10-07-05 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds

Fine. Enjoy being ripped off by the record companies. -ohbfrank-

Or just go without music (something many of us just can't do). :cool:

I don't have to worry about that, none of my favorite artists use copy protection. Then again, I don't listen to "hot" bands like Life of Agony or Switchfoot.

story

10-07-05 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NitroJMS

It's just a matter of time before record companies bring out this format which is 100% protected from digital copying:

There is actually technology available now that will record the grooves on the record and interpret them as digital data on a computer. I have no idea how to get access to it, but it's out there.

Mordred

10-07-05 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmatica

There is actually technology available now that will record the grooves on the record and interpret them as digital data on a computer. I have no idea how to get access to it, but it's out there.

I have several mp3s that were ripped from records (because they haven't been released on CD) that sound very good. Without pointing out the fact that the source was a record, most would assume that the album was just recorded on the cheap. A good record player, a high quality sound card and some mild noise reduction work wonders.

Applejack

10-07-05 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brain Stew

I don't have to worry about that, none of my favorite artists use copy protection. Then again, I don't listen to "hot" bands like Life of Agony or Switchfoot.

Oh my God! Yr so indie!!!

Ralph Wiggum

10-07-05 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

So does that mean if one has a Mac, you can rip it like a normal disc? I've passed on the Foo Fighters disc several times because I was afraid I wouldn't be able to rip it with the rest of my library.

That is NOT TRUE of all Macs. My 1.5 GHz 15" PB will not even recognize the newest Ben Folds CD.

Brain Stew

10-07-05 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Applejack

Oh my God! Yr so indie!!!

Hardly. The last CD I bought was a Bob Dylan cd. I just don't listen to bands that use copy protection.

benedict

10-08-05 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dogmatica

There is actually technology available now that will record the grooves on the record and interpret them as digital data on a computer. I have no idea how to get access to it, but it's out there.

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Not quite what you were talking about but presumably employing similar technology.

On a side-note: all parties posting here need to ensure that they:
a) stay within Geoff's guidelines on copyright matters, and
b) remain civil.

CRM114

10-08-05 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum

That is NOT TRUE of all Macs. My 1.5 GHz 15" PB will not even recognize the newest Ben Folds CD.

Songs for Silverman? I have the DualDisc and ripped it successfully with an old eMac. I wasn't even aware that had copy protection.

But will a Mac rip these new discs like Foo Fighters that are clearly labeled on the front?

Ralph Wiggum

10-08-05 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

My guess is that it depends on your specific CD/DVD drive.

I have the DD; it ripped fine in a friend's G4 PowerMac, but not my PB - the drive ejects it. My first DD was the first time that happened in the 700+ CDs I've ripped into iTunes. The case does have the ". . . disc does not conform to CD specifications . . ." warning on the back in fine print.

I will never buy a non-redbook CD again. Fool me once and all that.

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