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Old 08-23-05, 03:13 PM
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Furthermore....
Maiden are currently returning from America and preparing for UK festivals this weekend and don't wish to waste time giving Sharon Osbourne's statement the dignity of a reply. Considering the disgraceful nature of the events that occurred they feel it's a pretty dismal effort at self justification and they don't think Metal fans are at all gullible and that they will easily see through it. They want no more to do with this sorry incident and are very much looking forward to headlining Reading and Leeds Festivals this weekend.

I would however like to add my own comment on this.

In 30 years in this business and after attending hundreds of gigs l have never seen anything anywhere near as disgusting and unprofessional as what went on that night. I was standing on our sound desk out front as usual but ran to the stage as soon as the hail of missiles began and from then on watched from the front of the stage right next to Bruce's walkway. The scale, viciousness and concentration of the throwing made it obvious that this was a premeditated and co-ordinated attack.

Assaulting musicians while performing by throwing bottle tops, lighters and eggs at them from just a few yards away is vile, dangerous, criminal and cowardly. It is incredible that Ozzfest security apparently did nothing about it - aren't they there to protect the bands too? Especially when the band is concentrating on a performance in front of 45,000 people and the missiles are coming out of the glare of the spotlights. And to spit at a band on stage is unforgivable.

Iron Maiden, like all the bands on Ozzfest, had to sign quite onerous legal documents part of which was promising not to throw anything into the audience, even wristbands!!! Ironic isn't it.

It is well documented on the web who was responsible for planning and participating in this attack and for musicians to join in this assault on other musicians is a shocking disgrace akin to treachery. You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

We know who authorised the making of the 'ozzy - ozzy' chant tape the day before and how it was played secretly through the PA at the very beginning and end of our set.

We also know who continually turned off the power interrupting our set at crucial moments. It is a good thing that the power was turned back on before there was a riot as you could sense on stage a lot of the huge audience were getting totally pissed off at this continual onslaught on the band.

The great majority of the Ozzfest crew throughout the tour were terrific and we thank them. Those who participated or stood idly by and watched as this all went down should also be ashamed of themselves and l would certainly hope they never come near a tour with which we are involved.

There is little point in my commenting on the chap with the flag or their trying to hold up Eddie or Sharon's speech as the audience made their feelings very clear on each occasion.

And in the end what was all this about?? If l had any sort of problem or misunderstanding with a band working on a tour we were involved in l would go and talk to them or their manager - not wait until the end of a tour and assault and ambush them. Or was that really it?

I find it staggering that this ambush would take place in front of any audience, let alone in San Bernardino, the biggest audience of the tour. Didn't that audience merit any consideration? They pay an awful lot to be there in terms of prices for tickets, parking, food, beer etc. Surely if they spend this sort of money they deserve to watch the bands they paid to see be able to put in a full unhindered performance. Free of danger and intimidation. If I had paid I would ask for my money back!

And this audience really were outstanding, giving the band incredible support and many voting with their feet in disgust after the set and the speech, which to many was the final insult.

I have to say l was immensely proud of Maiden who stood up to it all and showed great courage and just got better and better through the adversity. Their heads never dropped, instead they went on the offensive. It was a truly memorable moment when Bruce went to the very front of the stage during Trooper - something which he never normally does as he is usually on the ramps - waving the flag whilst avoiding the hail of missiles and yelling 'This is a fucking British flag, and these colours don't fucking run!'. The imperturbable attitude and ability of the band shone through and in the end made this a truly remarkable rock and roll event, even if for all the wrong reasons.

We will have no more to say on this matter except that l do think the band deserve an apology from a number of people, and you know who you are.

ROD SMALLWOOD
MANAGER, IRON MAIDEN
CHAIRMAN, SANCTUARY ARTIST MANAGEMENT
.... I believe that this was the press release put out by Smallwood following Sharon's apparent worldwide release summarising what she said onstage.

I wonder if this'll end up in court.
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Furthermore.... .... I believe that this was the press release put out by Smallwood following Sharon's apparent worldwide release summarising what she said onstage.
for Rod. Now I need to find a copy of that show.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Let me say 1st, I'll always side with Maiden over Ozzfest. However...

Right or wrong why do it on the OZZFEST TOUR Bruce? It's like talking shit about Rap music while on a rap tour or sayng how stupid women are on the LILITH TOUR. You're just aking for trouble. Whether Bruce likes it or not, it's OZZFEST not MAIDENFEST and the OZZY people are running the show. If he didn't want to be there then he shoulda stayed home or had Maiden do their own tour.
Yup. Bruce is opinionated and doesn't hold back when maybe there are better times to express how you really feel. Obviously he pissed off Sharon and she went into bitch-overdrive mode and ruined the show for a lot of fans.

I love Maiden more than almost any band and was the only reason I even gave a thought to going to Ozzfest (as I hate festivals). Sucks for all involved, and I feel bad for Maiden, but Bruce probably could have prevented it from ever happening in the first place.

Still, I'm dying to get a copy of this show now. It sounds killer. Hope it doesn't keep Maiden from coming back to the US either.
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I don't understand why Sharon even did care.. do people really have to take stuff like that serious? i mean, grow up.
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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
So Bruce is opinionated and lacks a sense for identifying a proper occasion to express his views... so what? How does one get from that to sabotaging a show and throwing eggs at someone? If the woman felt insulted (as she should have, 'cause truth hurts), she could have repaid in kind. What she has done over the years (like fucking ruining legendary recordings to earn a few more nickles in royalties) shows she has no respect or understanding whatsoever of music. Even though I own dozens of albums by Ozzy/Sabbath, I'm not buying dick from him from now on.

Again, that may all be true... but both sides needed to handle things differently. Your logic is blinded by your hatred for Sharon.


yeah, but America's stinks the most... that's not to say there are no good artists, but they don't get any exposure, and remain unknown to everyone but the most dedicated music-hunters. I think in no other (civilized) country has the exclusion of quality music from the mainstream been so thorough, or the substitutes found for it so filthy.

Dude, neither America nor any other place on Earth has exclusive rights to crappy art. Do you really think EVERY BAND THAT EVER FORMED got exposure in Europe? I'm sure plenty of great bands will never see fame because that's just the way things go and it happens all over the world.

And another thing, OZZY should share just as much blame for Sharon's whoring his Legend out.

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Old 08-24-05, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Um, I think you missed the point of the article. It had nothing to do with Maiden's music...
Actually, I got the point of the article, as well as every other one I have read on the issue. I also find it hard to believe that every person throwing something was part of the enlisted. I've seen it at many concerts, and there wasn't an inter-band pissing match going on to give any reason.
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
Actually, I got the point of the article, as well as every other one I have read on the issue. I also find it hard to believe that every person throwing something was part of the enlisted. I've seen it at many concerts, and there wasn't an inter-band pissing match going on to give any reason.
Nah, you missed the point.

Just kidding.
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I also find it hard to believe that every person throwing something was part of the enlisted. I've seen it at many concerts, and there wasn't an inter-band pissing match going on to give any reason.
You have a seen a group of masked people escorted to the front row armed with eggs at many shows?
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Found some audio clips on a board (or Sludge board). Bruce is really pissed off and the crowd is definitely on his side. Sharon really screwed it up by thinking she could get the last word but the crowd was not on her side at all.

I wonder how many people would go to see just an Ozzy, instead of a festival. I know I would not have gone 10 years ago.
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Sharon is just a spoiled brat who has temper tantrums whenever she doesn't get her way or whenever someone says something critical of her or Ozzy.

Like Bob Daisley & Lee Kerslake when they tried to get paid what Sharon & Ozzy OWED them - so Sharon ended up having their parts of Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman re-recorded by different musicians to get back at them. Nice - desecrate two revered albums to satisfy your own need to 'get back' at someone. How professional. And Daisley's still waiting for his songwriting credits to be included on Bark at the Moon and The Ultimate Sin. Of course, he and Kerslake were NEVER credited for playing on Diary of a Madman, even though they co-wrote and co-produced the album! (Not a problem anymore, I suppose, since Sharon had their parts REMOVED from those albums....)

Now this childish behavior from Sharon.

Bruce Dickinson made fun of Ozzy's "reality" show? WHO HASN'T???

"The Osbournes" made Ozzy into (more) of a laughing-stock around the world! People didn't watch that show to laugh with Ozzy, they watched it to laugh at Ozzy. Bruce was just honest enough to point that out. Bruce was just the first one to have the guts to say it where Ozzy & Sharon could hear him.

If Bruce was also critical of the PA sound system there had to be reason. Do you really think that if the sound system was all that good Bruce would complain about it? Bruce may be opinionated and aggressive, but he's not a liar - he is honest to a fault.

I've seen Bruce go off on people during concerts - but they always deserved it! In San Diego in 2000 some guy was hitting people as he was "moshing" way too aggressively in the front row and Bruce stopped the song and laid into the guy verbally like you wouldn't believe. He had the guy removed from the arena - Bruce was clearly pissed! I thought it was going to ruin the show - Bruce being that angry - but instead Maiden moved forward and played a GREAT show.

Oh, and by the way - Maiden headlined 2 tours in the U.S. in the last 5 years. Played sold out shows in L.A. and New York, and had more than respectable attendance everywhere else for a band who hardly gets played on the radio anymore. In fact, I saw them just 2 years ago and it was the best show I've ever seen from them! (Maiden, Dio, and Motorhead - one of the best concerts all around that I've been to as well...) The show was at Irvine Meadows, and it was sold out!

The proper response from Sharon would have been to either engage Bruce in a debate, take him on verbally - head on, or to remove Maiden from the tour if she really couldn't cope with his opinions. But to enlist people in assaulting a defenseless band onstage (and only 9 months after Dimebag Darrell was KILLED onstage while defenseless) is beyond juvenile - it's criminally stupid. It's pathetic.

I'm done with Ozzy (and by extension, with Sharon). I will not buy anything more from Ozzy while he is managed by that bitch. It's a shame that they have dragged the great Black Sabbath into all of this. I know that Geezer and Tony are unhappy in having to deal with Ozzy and Sharon, but to headline tours they "need" Ozzy (or so they think).

Sabbath should just call Ronnie James Dio and ask him to take over again and do a new album and tour. I think that they're all old enough and mature enough to at least co-exist in a band together. Unlike Ozzy Osbourne Ronnie James Dio can still think for himself.

UP THE IRONS!!!
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Oh, by the way - Sharon, leave it to AMERICANS to decide if we're offended by the Union Jack.

(Sharon's a Brit, just like Ozzy and Maiden.)

At least we're smart enough to know that the Union Jack goes hand in hand with the lyrics of "The Trooper," and WE are not offended in the least....
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One final (maybe) point...

Do you think that THIS had anything to do with Sharon's anger.....

Iron Maiden Ozzfest Reviews:

Pittsburgh Daily News – “The night belonged to Iron Maiden, and the crowd treated them like royalty, easily giving them the most raucous reaction of any of the bands assembled. Dickinson and Maiden put the younger bands on the show to shame, and Dickinson was almost giddy as he led the masses in singalongs of classics such as opener ‘Wrathchild’, ‘The Trooper’ and ‘Run To The Hills.’“

New York Times - 'Spry and mischievous as ever (he delivered a tirade against MTV and reality shows, which is mischievous only if you're about to cede the stage to Mr. Osbourne), Dickinson sounded and looked like a man leading his troops into battle, although under a foreign flag: he waved a huge Union Jack.'

Hollywood Reporter - 'Maiden held the second slot to Sabbath and in 70 minutes walked away with the whole show... Iron Maiden is the standout on this tour and - to paraphrase Dickinson - rocks ‘like a bastard!’'.

Chicago Tribune - 'Dickinson's soaring battle-cries held the near-capacity crowd spellbound while his high-energy performance made many of the festival's acts look lazy and tired.'

Boston Globe – “The band that stole the show yesterday was Iron Maiden, with Dickinson… climbing stairs to ramps at either side, from which he exhorted the crowd into a horn-saluting frenzy with such songs as '’Wrathchild’ and ‘Run To The Hills,’ aided by a triple-guitar attack and inflatable beast with neon blue eyes, and changing rear curtains that made their set feel like a Broadway play.”

The Freelance Star, Virginia – “Iron Maiden deserves every accolade thrown its way over many years of hard-rock excess… After decades of domination, Iron Maiden showed that well-structured songs, vocal brilliance and unabashed rock 'n' roll showmanship are a bloody good combination… This night belonged to Maiden.”

Indianaopolis Star – “Bassist and primary songwriter Steve Harris… believes in speed and melody, traits that defined Sunday’s renditions of ‘The Trooper’ and ‘Run To The Hills’ [while] Bruce Dickinson provided the right amount of theatrics to ‘Phantom Of The Opera’ and ‘Number Of The Beast’… Iron Maiden saved the day”

Hartford Courant – “Coming second to last on a 20-act, 14-hour bill, Iron Maiden negated all of the 18 previous performances with a 60-minute set of bombastic metal. The English band's songs featured actual riffs, sweeping vocal melodies and gobs of frantic guitar solos, and the musicians - particularly singer Bruce Dickinson - displayed a charisma not seen among the other bands.”

You don't suppose all those reviews saying that Maiden stole the show each and every night had anything to do with Sharon's bad mood, do you?
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Not only that, but Ozzy didn't even play on many of the shows!
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I pretty much agree with Robo here, except I think that while Bruce's comments were unprofessional what Sharon (allegedly) did was so batshit insane that it totally eclipses his outburts. But I'm still going to Ozzfest next week.

As for the US being a shithole of culture, at least we didn't have a remix of Axel F with a fucking frog making engine noises at the top of our charts for a month.
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I pretty much agree with Robo here, except I think that while Bruce's comments were unprofessional what Sharon (allegedly) did was so batshit insane that it totally eclipses his outburts. But I'm still going to Ozzfest next week.
Like I said, Sharon does share a bigger part of the blame.


As for the US being a shithole of culture, at least we didn't have a remix of Axel F with a fucking frog making engine noises at the top of our charts for a month.

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As for the US being a shithole of culture, at least we didn't have a remix of Axel F with a fucking frog making engine noises at the top of our charts for a month.
Touché!
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Sharon admits role in Iron Maiden flap
NASHVILLE (Billboard) - In a statement released Thursday night, Ozzfest organizer Sharon Osbourne admitted a role in the incident that marred Iron Maiden's August 20 tour performance in Devore, Calif. -- specifically, that she cut off the band's sound on several occasions.

Iron Maiden also was pelted with eggs and debris from the front of the pavilion during its performance, which was its last on the festival's tour. Osbourne did not take responsibility for those actions.

She previously claimed that Iron Maiden singer Bruce Dickinson repeatedly disrespected her husband Ozzy during the tour, and that other Iron Maiden members were ashamed of Dickinson's behavior.

In her new statement, which doubles as an open letter to Maiden manager Rod Smallwood, she said, "For 20 shows we were forced to hear Dickinson's nightly outbursts from the stage: 'When we come back to America, we'll be back with a proper sound system' or 'We won't be playing the same old songs every night (like (Black) Sabbath),' 'We don't need a teleprompter (like Ozzy)' and 'We don't need a reality show to be legit (again, like Ozzy)."'

Sharon Osbourne explained cutting Maiden's power in part by saying, "Was Dickinson so naive to think that I was going to let him get away with talking s**t about my family night after night? I don't think he realizes who he's dealing with." She signed the letter as the "real Iron Maiden."

Earlier this week, Smallwood said he had "never seen anything anywhere near as disgusting and unprofessional as what went on that night."

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So, sharon's ego is more important than satisfying thousands of ticketholders who have paid close to $100 each (factoring in parking, concessions, and ticketbastard). What a ****. I hope the fans tell her and ozzy to go fuck themselves by completely ignoring the next lame Ozzy record or retarded "reality" television show.
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It will be interesting to see if bands will publicly boycott Ozzfest because of the way this has played out. I'm sure there are several bands out there that feel they don't need Ozzfest, or any help from the Ozbournes. They would be right on the mark as well. Ozzfest is good for smaller bands to get good exposure, but that could be attained by starting up a new festival type concert series. Gigantour may do that. Tattoo the Earth was somewhat promising, although that lasted to a grandfatherly age of 1 year.
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http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=3832

Bruce Dickinson Responds

By Newsferatu, Writer
Friday, August 26, 2005 @ 9:42 AM

“Ozzy Or Sabbath - They Have Too Much Class To Condone Stunts Like That”

- advertisement -
The following interview was printed in Brittish newspaper, The Sun (www.thesun.co.uk):

IRON MAIDEN are heavy metal gods - and after 25 years at the top, the band were last night inducted into Kerrang's Hall of Fame.

BRUCE DICKINSON's legendary group picked up the gong at the magazine's annual awards in the same week they joined the likes of AC/DC, JIMI HENDRIX and ELVIS in Hollywood's prestigious Rockwalk of Fame.

They've also just put on a stunning show at this year's Ozzfest, despite notorious attempts to sabotage their set.

Jacqui Swift, of The Sun's Something For The Weekend section, was a guest of the band at both US events in Los Angeles. Here Bruce tells her what he thought about the eventful week, a certain Sharon Osbourne and why Reading could be the greatest show of their career.

Q: Why is Reading so special?

A: "It's where I was asked to join the band and it's also the first festival I ever went to in my life and also played. And this year it will be a big one, I promise and yes we'll be nervous."

Q: You're playing just the four albums on this tour because of the Early Years DVD Part One? Will there be a Part Two?

A: "Yes, Part Two will be based around Live After Death and Powerslave and Somewhere in Time and we have started working on it. The plan is to do what will be our biggest, most spectacular tour we have ever done. The Powerslave era was the one that had all the toys. It had the massive Eddie, the huge mechanical hands and Ancient Egypt. And we want to recreate the whole deal."

Q: You've ridden out every rock music trend and almost every band throughout has cited you as an influence. Why?

A: "Yes that's weird isn't it? It's because we've never compromised. Maiden is about loyalty and pride and doing what you believe in and sticking with your beliefs. It's a bit like people who follow football teams. They sign up for a football team and support them all their lives even if they lose. That's us, and our fans are part of our gang."

Q: Ozzfest, Reading and Leeds are all about new fans. Why are they important?

A: "People who are as old as I am are generally not that fun to play to. I know there'll be people reading this saying "It's not true" but 47 year olds don't rock like 15 year olds. They go absolutely mental and that's what keeps us going. We are playing songs approaching 25 years old and yet we have the youngest audience."

Q: So what happened when you went on stage at Ozzfest?

A: "We were hit by a co-ordinated barrage of bottle tops, lighters and eggs from a certain section at the front! Then the power for the PA and backline was completely pulled three or four times during songs. The band held it all together incredibly though and we just got really pumped up. It ended up being an amazing show. Maiden can pretty much deal with anything. We don’t get fazed too easily."

Q: Who do you think was behind it all?

A: "Everyone knows it's Sharon Osbourne. It's certainly not Ozzy or Sabbath - they have too much class to condone stunts like that. She hates me for making remarks about reality TV. I hate reality TV. People should get off their arses and do stuff and not be so voyeuristic."

Q: Her stunts seemed to backfire as you played a magnificent set and soon after, thousands walked out in disgust?

A: "We left for the airport pretty well straight after we came off but we could tell there were a lot of disgusted fans who had paid good money to see us. The audience was incredibly behind us all the way and they really lifted us. If they hadn't been happy, there may have been a riot as those fans were really disgusted with the cowardly attacks."


Q: Did you enjoy the Rockwalk of Fame presentation and what does it mean to you?

A: "Well it's very American but behind it there are all these fans that are really into it and have all turned up. It's great. We are very proud of that day, though we ended up with filthy hands. It was great that Eddie rightfully got a handprint too."

Q: You left the band in 1993. Is it something you regret?

A: "Hindsight is a wonderful thing. When I left I had no intention of coming back but in the intervening period, I ended up becoming a much better singer than I was before, certainly live. And coming back into the band I had a hell of lot more energy than in the two or years before I left and I stayed with it. I also came back with a determination that I'm never going to walk on stage again doing something I don't want to do as it's soul destroying and eats you up."

Q: How does Maiden fit in with family life?

A: "Well, we get to run around like a lunatic and play music and my kids can come and watch. My 15 and 13 year olds were in the front row at our New York gig, in the mosh pit. I suddenly saw these four security guards jump in and hold someone down. I thought they had my kids but then I looked and saw their little faces, sweating and screaming and I was ready to dive in."

Q: And next for Maiden?

A: "We have the live album Death on the Road out on Monday with a DVD to follow and then we record the new studio album next spring, which will be out next autumn. First we have the special fundraising Hammersmith Odeon show next week. It's for our old drummer Clive Burr's Multiple Sclerosis Trust Fund. I'm really looking forward to it. It will top off an amazing year which included a show in Sweden, where we played to 56,000 and were broadcast live to 20 million people."

Q: And next for you?

A: "I go back to my 6 Music radio show and my job as an airline pilot. It's a proper, straightforward, regular job. I had to book holidays for the tour. I was straight off stage at Ozzfest to hightail it to LAX airport."
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It's good to see Maiden keeping themselves above everything and not doing what most would: get in an online/press back and forth. It's nice to see civility left, especially when someone is shit upon.
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
It's good to see Maiden keeping themselves above everything and not doing what most would: get in an online/press back and forth. It's nice to see civility left, especially when someone is shit upon.
yeah but the interview above further proves my point that Bruce started all this shit. Both Sharon and Bruce owe fans an apology.
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yeah but the interview above further proves my point that Bruce started all this shit. Both Sharon and Bruce owe fans an apology.
I don't think Bruce owes Sharon an apology for making fun of "The Osbournes". She should be apologizing for making the show in the first place. Plus, everyone gets fun poked at them every now and then. It doesn't mean you should retaliate during a concert like a huge bint, IMO.
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If there was a problem, maybe Mrs O should have removed Maiden from the show as soon as the situation arose. Of course sabotaging a final night probably cost less money.... unless someone sues.
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