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Flashback 03-30-05 06:48 PM

Wow another Clash thread....yes we (or most) do respect them. I am little on the edge of punk though ... but would not argue against it.

TomOpus 03-30-05 09:17 PM

Big Clash fan here too.

First time I heard Give 'Em Enough Rope I was blown away. I couldn't believe the energy, the voracity of the guitars. Holy, shit I couldn't stop listening! I bought it while the family was vacationing here in San Diego and while they were off doing stuff, I stayed at the house playing this over and over.

No need to expound on London Calling. It's one of the greatest recording in rock history.

But I must give some love to Sandinista!. Truely epic with some amazing recordings. Understandably underappreciated, but I thought it was genuis.

Burnt Alive 03-30-05 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Buford T Pusser
What about the Vibrators since SLF got their name from the a song by the band.

Damn, I haven't listend to The Vibrators in a while. Thanks to your message, I just popped Pure Mania in my CD player.

I have to agree that there's a fair amount of filler on just about every Clash album after the first release (unlike, say, the first few SLF albums -wink-). And I'm allowed to say this due to my ownership of Cut The Crap.

Every Clash fan out there needs to pick up a copy of The Ruts - The Crack. It's almost like finding a lost Clash album circa 1979 (which would make since...The Crack was released in 1979).
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Falc04 03-31-05 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
Yeah, who else would write a song about Errol Flynn's missing son?

The same group of musicians who would write a song about Montgomery Cliff ;)

Brain Stew 03-31-05 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Falc04
The same group of musicians who would write a song about Montgomery Cliff ;)

It seems that they were HUGE movie fans: quoting Taxi Driver, writing songs about Montgomery Clift and Sean Flynn as well as titling one of there songs The Magnificent Seven.

wendersfan 03-31-05 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Falc04
The same group of musicians who would write a song about Montgomery Cliff ;)

"Nembutal numbs it all, but I prefer alcohol."

atlantamoi 03-31-05 03:23 PM

Anyone bitching about "Combat Rock" or "Sandinista" hasn't heard "Cut the Crap". Woah.

Clash = timeless greatness.

Buford T Pusser 03-31-05 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Burnt Alive
Damn, I haven't listend to The Vibrators in a while. Thanks to your message, I just popped Pure Mania in my CD player.

I have to agree that there's a fair amount of filler on just about every Clash album after the first release (unlike, say, the first few SLF albums -wink-). And I'm allowed to say this due to my ownership of Cut The Crap.

Every Clash fan out there needs to pick up a copy of The Ruts - The Crack. It's almost like finding a lost Clash album circa 1979 (which would make since...The Crack was released in 1979).
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CMZZZZZZZ_.jpg


I asked a friend that knows about all original punk and he said this:



The Ruts are similar to the Clash becase they use some reggae
rhythms with their punk and they're equaly political...but I don't
think they sound like the Clash. Still, THE CRACK is pretty great, one
of the classic punk albums. I like an album called GRIN AND BEAR IT
even better--it's a compilation of non-LP singles and a few live versions
of songs from THE CRACK.

Andalusian Dog 04-01-05 07:44 AM

new Clash fan here.

i've been thinking about buying the "Clash On Broadway" boxset. when i searched the Amazon.com site, i noticed that there are two versions currently available. one is a remastered version released in 2000, and the other is a more-expensive remastered version released in 2004. does anyone have an idea what the difference is between those two? is the packaging the same? is the sound quality the same? should i go for the older, cheaper version?

i would appreciate any help i can get. thanks!

Buford T Pusser 04-01-05 08:30 AM

They remastered all the original albums and did that at the same time. I compared London Calling and it did sound much better.

TomOpus 04-01-05 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Andalusian Dog
i've been thinking about buying the "Clash On Broadway" boxset.

Can't help about the versions but it's a decent set. I picked it up at the swap meet for $15. It was in pristine condition. Looked the guy only took off the wrapping.

Brain Stew 04-01-05 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Andalusian Dog
new Clash fan here.

i've been thinking about buying the "Clash On Broadway" boxset. when i searched the Amazon.com site, i noticed that there are two versions currently available. one is a remastered version released in 2000, and the other is a more-expensive remastered version released in 2004. does anyone have an idea what the difference is between those two? is the packaging the same? is the sound quality the same? should i go for the older, cheaper version?

i would appreciate any help i can get. thanks!

The new version is fully remastered and I think comes in longbox packaging instead of just a jewel case.

Eddie W 04-02-05 09:20 AM


The new version is fully remastered and I think comes in longbox packaging instead of just a jewel case.
Actually, I think it's just the opposite. I bought the original release when it first came out & it's in a sturdy longox. The later versions I've seen are in the jewel box case.

Has anyone heard of an live album called "Chaos in New York"? I found this recently on allofmp3 and it's quite good. Great sound quality/performance of a Sandanista! era show.

Burnt Alive 04-02-05 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Eddie W
Has anyone heard of an live album called "Chaos in New York"? I found this recently on allofmp3 and it's quite good. Great sound quality/performance of a Sandanista! era show.

It's a bootleg. There's tons of live Clash bootlegs out there.

Brain Stew 04-02-05 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Burnt Alive
It's a bootleg. There's tons of live Clash bootlegs out there.

Yep, they only released one official live album: "Live: From Here to Eternity."

Ky-Fi 04-02-05 05:10 PM

Yep, big Clash fan since the early 80's. Never got to see them live, but I did see Joe Strummer fronting the Pogues in Boston in the early 90's, and then I got to see Joe again in Boston in 1999. That was really great, because he alternated between songs from Rock Art and The Clash. He had a great young band with him, and hearing Bankrobber, Safe European Home and Rock the Casbah live was incredible.

The thing that gets me about the Clash is the way they could play ANY style of music, and it just sounded so naturally like the Clash. Most bands just can't pull that off. To me, when U2 started getting into the blues, especialy with Rattle and Hum, it sounded a bit forced---like the decision to go there came more from their heads than their hearts. I can't say that about any of the Clash's forays into different genres.

It's too bad that Joe wasn't a bit more prolific after the Clash---I think I read that he had quite a loss of confidence after the Clash, and that affected his output.

Regarding Cut the Crap, I actually still listen to that album regularly. I still hold that the songwriting is pretty tight, it's just the cheesy production that really brings it down---the cheap-sounding synths and drum machines, and the choruses that sound like they're shouted by about 30 people. But I still love This is England, Movers and Shakers, Fingerpoppin' and Three Card Trick. IMO, he just should have called that album Joe Strummer instead of The Clash.


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