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DVD Josh 11-23-04 09:44 PM

1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 
I'm sure there are some U2 fans here who won't be able to admit that this song really sucks hard, but face it - it does. That ridiculous iPod spot doesn't help things either. This song is no better than a garage band. People are saying that the new U2 is the best yet. That's not possible - no album with this piece of doo song on it can be the best of anything.

Agree or disagree, it matters not. This song, objectively, sucks.

RMSpuhler 11-23-04 09:52 PM

Re: 1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 

Originally posted by DVD Josh

Agree or disagree, it matters not. This song, objectively, sucks.

<i>watch the personal attack!</i>
RS

The Antipodean 11-23-04 10:18 PM

Re: 1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 

Originally posted by DVD Josh
Agree or disagree, it matters not. This song, objectively, sucks.

(Raises hand, then gives up with a sigh).. oh, never mind. It's not really worth the effort, is it?

The Cow 11-23-04 10:21 PM

Re: Re: 1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 

Originally posted by RMSpuhler
You're an idiot. Agree or disagree, it matters not. You, objectively, suck.

RS

Wow, I would have thought a "DVDTalk Reviewer" would know the rules of posting on the site. Go figure.

Oh yeah, I don't care much for the song either (I do like most of the album). Probably would like it more if I didn't hear it about every five minutes the TV or radio is on.

Rogue588 11-23-04 10:53 PM

Nah, nevermind.

gmal2003 11-23-04 10:57 PM

I like the song, its not a really good song, but I like it. :lol: at your 1 2 3 14 call out. What does that mean anyway, what impelled the 2ers to skip from tres to catorce?

Chrisedge 11-23-04 11:15 PM

And you needed your own special thread for your post...

badger1997 11-23-04 11:21 PM

I'm not a U2 fan at all. I like some of their stuff, but can't stand much of their stuff. So I feel I am objective and I love Vertigo. May not be a great or particularly deep song, but it's a great rock song and it makes me sing along and feel good. What else do you want from a song?

And I do believe the skipping from three to 14 has something to do with the producer on the album, as has been posted elsewhere. The guy did their first three and is back for this album, number 14, if I remember right.

DonnachaOne 11-23-04 11:37 PM

Steve Lillywhite produced Boy, October and War... the first three U2 albums.

He returns to produce How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb, U2's fourteenth album.

1, 2, 3, 14

I'd say most U2 fans got it after a minute of thought... I mean, it's the fourteenth album, there's your first clue right there.

Mr. Salty 11-24-04 12:40 AM

It's hard to take someone's opinion seriously when the only word they use to state said opinion is "sucks."

Setzer 11-24-04 12:54 AM

Don't understand why we need a thread just for one's own opinion of a song. Who cares? There's already a thread discussing their new album here.

Gerry P. 11-24-04 02:07 AM

Grow up. You're behaving like a catorce-year-old.

DVD Josh 11-24-04 07:59 AM


Originally posted by Mr. Salty
It's hard to take someone's opinion seriously when the only word they use to state said opinion is "sucks."
Salty my friend, I tried to think of another criticism. But really, it just sucks so bad that I can't think of anything else. :)

Celtic Bob 11-24-04 08:16 AM

IMO: This is not there best disc but its far from their worst. I'd rank it almost as high as Achtung or Joshua. It's no Boy though.

neiname 11-24-04 08:16 AM

DVD Josh,

Could you please explain to me why you thought you needed a totally different thread to express your opinion? Did you want to include your unclever title and not have it buried in the appropriate thread that discusses the latest U2 album.

uteotw 11-24-04 08:36 AM

Re: 1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 

Originally posted by DVD Josh
Agree or disagree, it matters not. This song, objectively, sucks.
That may be one of the most hilarious things I've ever read on here.

It's like saying, "Agree or disagree, carrots suck." Well, maybe to YOU they do, but music, like food (maybe even like movies?), is a matter of personal preference, which Josh apparently has not yet realized. Too funny.

PERSONALLY, I ruined the song for myself by listening to it too often when it was the only new U2 I could get, and the commercials and CSI placement didn't help the overkill either. I'm just happy to have the rest of the CD now, which I PERSONALLY like quite a bit...

Josh H 11-24-04 08:55 AM

No song ever "objectively" sucks. Music is entirely subjective. One person's most hated song, is another persons favorite song. Neither is more or less "right" than the other.

But in this case, I agree that Vertigo pretty much sucks. The guitar riff is annoying, as are most of the vocals (especially the yeah yeah yeahs at the end) and the lyrics are terrible.

Thankfully the rest of the CD is great though.

auto 11-24-04 08:58 AM

Someone please merge this into the already existing thread.

Why would you post a new thread?

Toad 11-24-04 09:26 AM

DUDE - I can't believe you actually posted an anti-U2 thread here!!! People might hunt you down and kill you.

See a thread I posted a few weeks ago on why "Uno, dos, tres, catorce" sucks. I think people wanted me castrated and urinated-upon.

The song still sucks. Maybe it'll get better after I buy the CD and give it a listen in context, and in relation to the other songs.

cdollaz 11-24-04 09:33 AM

OP, please list some of the stuff you do like so we can give our opinions on it. I doubt everything you like is Pulitzer-worthy prose.

JAA 11-24-04 09:40 AM

Re: 1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 

Originally posted by DVD Josh
...Agree or disagree, it matters not. This song, objectively, sucks.
Objectively? Hardly. You mean subjectively, right? ;)

DVD Josh 11-24-04 09:59 AM

LOL - I knew there'd be backlash :) I do like U2, quite a bit actually. I do only have both GH albums however, but I think of them as a seminal, groundbreaking band. This song sucks. I just hope that people aren't being fanboys about them and refusing to admit the obvious - that this song blows (and the iPod spot is worse). I am an enormous fan of the Smashing Pumpkins, and I can say without a doubt that Disarm sucks.

As for why I didn't put it in the other thread - that's a thread about the album, this is about the song. :)

Ky-Fi 11-24-04 10:05 AM

I think Vertigo is kick-ass songwriting---it's pretty damn hard to write a chorus that catchy. Now you want to talk about a lame U2 song, I'd have to go with "Numb"....that's just brutal.

cdollaz 11-24-04 10:06 AM

Re: 1,2,3,14 - Vertigo sucks
 

Originally posted by DVD Josh
People are saying that the new U2 is the best yet. That's not possible - no album with this piece of doo song on it can be the best of anything.


Yet somehow OK Computer is considered by many the best album ever even though it has Fitter, Happier on it.

kvrdave 11-24-04 10:38 AM


Originally posted by DonnachaOne
Steve Lillywhite produced Boy, October and War... the first three U2 albums.

He returns to produce How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb, U2's fourteenth album.

1, 2, 3, 14

I'd say most U2 fans got it after a minute of thought... I mean, it's the fourteenth album, there's your first clue right there.

My Star Trek nerd knowledge pales in comparison to this -wink-


I'm not a U2 fan by any means, but I do enjoy some of their stuff. I love vertigo, personally. Great video as well. Can't wait for the DVD so that I can watch it on my 100" screen. I believe I shall yack. :)


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