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zebop 02-13-06 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by cungar
Geez I must be getting old. I guess the days of bands having a shred of integrity are long gone. People actually look forward to Van Halen finding their singer on a game show? Repulsive.

Repulsive, heh heh that's hilarious...

It's going to be a sad, sad day seeing the guys on this. Well, not sad--probably really, really surreal as well...

Tommy Ceez 02-13-06 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by B5Erik
I'd just like VH to put out one more studio album - as long as it's good. The last full studio album (VH III with Gary Cherone) was crap, and I'd hate to see that be the end of their career when it comes to full new studio albums.

Hell, maybe having fans pick three finalists for Eddie to choose from is a good idea - at least we know it would be a better fit than Gary Cherone was.

I'd like to think that Eddie, Alex, and Mike have one more good album left in them....


On Rockstar _____ the fans dont pick or eliminate anyone...every week the fans vote for thier favorite and the lowest three vote getters have to perform a song by the band (here VH)...then VH picks who they want to cut from those 3...since theres no binding fan vote, VH can basically pick someone they like on day 1 and that person is guarenteed to win.

Tommy Ceez 02-13-06 10:49 PM

And BTW...music snobs should LIKE Rockstar_____ because it gives alot of talented, unsigned frontmen/women national exposure

SeekOnce 02-14-06 01:47 AM

They should get Axl Rose to be a contestant.

cdollaz 02-14-06 09:15 AM

Doesn't matter who the singer is, if they keep writing pussy songs, it's gonna suck anyway.

Adam Tyner 02-14-06 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
And BTW...music snobs should LIKE Rockstar_____ because it gives alot of talented, unsigned frontmen/women national exposure

Yeah, I don't really follow this line of thinking.

I would think music snobs would not be interested so much in the national exposure end of it, especially as it relates to a C-grade-celebrity-hosted, ultra-popular network TV show revolving around the types of bands who play the types of songs that music snobs would tend to shun. I mean, music snobs are called music snobs because they're snobs about music. Are you really a music snob if you religiously watch a TV show about the search for someone to front a band who's sold 50 million albums?

- Adam Tyner, former college radio DJ and therefore semi-expert on music snobbery

Bugg 02-14-06 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
Doesn't matter who the singer is, if they keep writing pussy songs, it's gonna suck anyway.

Crude but true.

DVD Josh 02-14-06 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
Doesn't matter who the singer is, if they keep writing pussy songs, it's gonna suck anyway.

The best example of this is Humans Being. What a monster verse riff and pounding vocal line.

Then the chorus about love.

Fucking bullhonkey nipshit.

cungar 02-14-06 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
A game show? It's a competition.

Exactly. A game show is a competition.

Bill Needle 02-14-06 11:19 AM

And auditions are not competitions?

grunter 02-14-06 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
And BTW...music snobs should LIKE Rockstar_____ because it gives alot of talented, unsigned frontmen/women national exposure

Yes, but the singer they chose to take over Michael Hutchence's place is just gawdawful.

That crappy "Dirty Vegas" song that's being run into the ground on VH-1 and every adult contemporary outlet imaginable defines the term "craptastic."

What happened to VH-1's "Bands on the Run?" I was hopelessly hooked to that series. Why was there never a Season 2.

cdollaz 02-14-06 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
The best example of this is Humans Being. What a monster verse riff and pounding vocal line.

Then the chorus about love.

Fucking bullhonkey nipshit.

I actually like Humans Being alot. It's one of the best songs from the Sammy era.

Geofferson 02-14-06 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I actually like Humans Being alot. It's one of the best songs from the Sammy era.

Agreed - actually it's my favorite Van Hagar song.

Regarding Rock Star, I wouldn't mind seeing VH on there. I'm only a fan of the Roth-era stuff anyway, which seems like light years ago. VH doesn't have a footprint in music today and if this gives them a chance to change that, then so be it.

cungar 02-14-06 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Geofferson
Agreed - actually it's my favorite Van Hagar song.

Regarding Rock Star, I wouldn't mind seeing VH on there. I'm only a fan of the Roth-era stuff anyway, which seems like light years ago. VH doesn't have a footprint in music today and if this gives them a chance to change that, then so be it.

Problem is, the footprint will be in a pile of shit.

DVD Josh 02-14-06 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I actually like Humans Being alot. It's one of the best songs from the Sammy era.

But it could have been so much more.

Holysmoker 02-14-06 04:53 PM

This will just give them some quick publicity. If it happens it won't go far afterwards. The problem with Van Halen was never the singers. It was always Ed. Guitar God that he is, he will definitely screw this up as well. I loved Roth, I loved Hagar. I loved Cherone (in Extreme). Three great frontmen/singers that couldn't hold it together with Eddie. Stop lookin' out, start lookin' in.

cungar 02-14-06 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Holysmoker
Stop lookin' out, start lookin' in.

Or just move on. 50+ year old guys singin about being Hot for Teacher. BLECH.

KnightLerxst 02-14-06 08:57 PM

Please let this not be true. Either have Roth at the helm, Hagar at the helm, or never do anything again as Van Halen. It is really sad that the band split after Balance...I loved the direction they were going in...there was a darker edge to the music from that album...despite the lovey lyrics.

In regards to Humans Being, that is probably my favorite VH song of all time.

snoogins 02-15-06 05:59 AM

From melodicrock.com

"Good to see people finally believing that Rock Star: Van Halen is not and will not ever happen. According to a couple of reports, a more likely scenario for this year (if and when it happens) is a 'supergroup' line-up looking for a lead singer, or a closer format to American Idol, but with a rock slant."



David Lee Roth went on a long rant about this yesterday (2/14) saying this (Rock Star:Van Halen) was the dumbest thing he has ever heard, but he would watch it.

DVD Josh 02-15-06 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by snoogins
From melodicrock.com

"Good to see people finally believing that Rock Star: Van Halen is not and will not ever happen. According to a couple of reports, a more likely scenario for this year (if and when it happens) is a 'supergroup' line-up looking for a lead singer, or a closer format to American Idol, but with a rock slant."



David Lee Roth went on a long rant about this yesterday (2/14) saying this (Rock Star:Van Halen) was the dumbest thing he has ever heard, but he would watch it.

What would really be cool for that show is for the band looking for a singer to be the backing band for the show. They were incredible.

GuessWho 03-07-06 05:48 PM

Eddie on Oscar night:

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....D4ZWMLzxDl4Q--
Musician Eddie Van Halen arrives at the 14th Annual Elton John Academy Awards Viewing Dinner and After-Party in West Hollywood, Calif., Sunday, March 5, 2006. (AP Photo/Matt Sayles)
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060306/482/camw12703061102

SeekOnce 03-07-06 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Eddie on Oscar night:

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....D4ZWMLzxDl4Q--
Musician Eddie Van Halen arrives at the 14th Annual Elton John Academy Awards Viewing Dinner and After-Party in West Hollywood, Calif., Sunday, March 5, 2006. (AP Photo/Matt Sayles)
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060306/482/camw12703061102

Looks like an old witch with missing teeth.

nodeerforamonth 03-07-06 06:01 PM

Kind of looks like DLR with dark hair.

The Infidel 03-08-06 01:15 AM

Eddie: "So, anyway, Dave all of a sudden comes up to me and asks to rejoin the band, and AAAAAAHHHHH!!! I pooped my pants."
Interviewer: "Well, I can't blame you. With everything you've been through, I would have pooped my pants, too!"
Eddie: "No, not then. Just now when I went 'AAAAAAHHHH!!!'"
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....D4ZWMLzxDl4Q--

Giantrobo 03-08-06 04:27 AM

ARGHGHGHHGHGH!!!! :eek:

zombiezilla 03-08-06 06:29 AM

LOL... helooks like a cross between Mickey Dolenz and Agarn from "F Troop"...LOL

JAA 03-08-06 07:35 AM

For a guy who can spot 50 just up around the bend, I don't think he looks bad at all - especially considering his health and addiction issues. Shit, he still has his hair! :thumbsup:

HE Pennypacker 03-08-06 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by grunter
Yes, but the singer they chose to take over Michael Hutchence's place is just gawdawful.

That crappy "Dirty Vegas" song that's being run into the ground on VH-1 and every adult contemporary outlet imaginable defines the term "craptastic."

What happened to VH-1's "Bands on the Run?" I was hopelessly hooked to that series. Why was there never a Season 2.

J.D. was the best choice out of the other 15. Also, I saw them live last week and they were INCREDIBLE. J.D. brings his OWN **** to the band, he's not up there trying to emulate Hutchence. It's absolutely amazing how he has gone from a contestant on the show to a perfect frontman. It's almost as if he has been in the band for years. INXS is back, and it's all thanks to the show. If Van Halen wants similar success again, this show is the best thing to happen to them.

As far as PRETTY Vegas is concerned, it's a decent song. Not great, but better than crap like NELLY and "HOLLABACK GURL" that seem to infest many radio stations. With their new single, AFTERGLOW, INXS will be releasing a tune that is AS GOOD as anything U2 has put out in recent memory. All this because of ROCK STAR: INXS. Van Halen, and people who want to seem them succeed, should be applauding this news.

DRG 03-08-06 12:32 PM

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....D4ZWMLzxDl4Q--
reminds me of
http://www.jimrosenbaum.com/southpark/crabtree.jpg

cdollaz 03-08-06 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker
Van Halen, and people who want to seem them succeed, should be applauding this news.

I want them to succeed because they put out a great album, not because of some shitty-ass TV show. VH does not need to stoop to something like this, they just need write good hard rock music, unlike the crap they have been releasing on the last couple of albums.

HE Pennypacker 03-08-06 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I want them to succeed because they put out a great album, not because of some shitty-ass TV show. VH does not need to stoop to something like this, they just need write good hard rock music, unlike the crap they have been releasing on the last couple of albums.

Yes, I too would RATHER have them take another route. But that ISN'T going to happen. If it were possible, they'd have been back already. Seeing how their options are limited, this seems like a good idea.

cdollaz 03-08-06 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker
Yes, I too would RATHER have them take another route. But that ISN'T going to happen. If it were possible, they'd have been back already. Seeing how their options are limited, this seems like a good idea.

I disagree totally. That is not the only way for them "come back." They came back a year or so ago and toured arenas.

HE Pennypacker 03-08-06 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
came back a year or so ago and toured arenas.

Seeing how I was oblivious to this fact, the publicity this show will provide will only aid the band.

cdollaz 03-08-06 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker
Seeing how I was oblivious to this fact, the publicity this show will provide will only aid the band.

Sold out arenas proves you wrong. INXS couldn't have sold out a high school gym at $5/ticket before the show. They needed the publicity.

HE Pennypacker 03-08-06 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
Sold out arenas proves you wrong. INXS couldn't have sold out a high school gym at $5/ticket before the show. They needed the publicity.

INXS has always attracted large numbers outside of the US. But that is not the point. The sold-out arenas were thanks to Hagar and a "reunion" tour. If they were to go on tour right now with a new singer, I highly doubt they'd see similar results. By going through this show they are ensuring a wider audience for their music. Don't forget the show is aired in many countries worldwide.

I honestly couldn't care less what they do. I just feel the show isn't going to hurt them any, it can only help. Many INXS fans felt the idea was a complete travesty, now most of them are praising the show beyond reason. I have a feeling a similar thing will happen with VH.

Sonny Corinthos 03-08-06 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Eddie on Oscar night:

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....D4ZWMLzxDl4Q--
Musician Eddie Van Halen arrives at the 14th Annual Elton John Academy Awards Viewing Dinner and After-Party in West Hollywood, Calif., Sunday, March 5, 2006. (AP Photo/Matt Sayles)
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060306/482/camw12703061102

:hscratch: What happened to his teeth? Are they all gone? Is he holding a set of dentures in his hand?

Snowmaker 03-08-06 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sonny Corinthos
Is he holding a set of dentures in his hand?

That was the first thing I said when I first saw it too a couple days ago .

nodeerforamonth 03-08-06 07:26 PM

He's always had weird teeth (or lack of). I remember hearing rumors back in '83 about how he "lost his teeth while playing guitar with them (ala Jimi Hendrix)".

zebop 03-08-06 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
He's always had weird teeth (or lack of). I remember hearing rumors back in '83 about how he "lost his teeth while playing guitar with them (ala Jimi Hendrix)".


Well that explains those Polident commercials he used to do...

Sid Ceaser 03-10-06 08:40 PM

Man, how the mighty have fallen. And fallen, and fallen and. . . .


Seriously, and I've been a big fan of this belief: Eddie, Mike and Alex should pull a "Operation Starfleet" move (remember that album? rawk!) and do an instrumental album without any singer. Hell, that Blautherieriumeemene (whatever the hell it was called) from 'Balance' rocked out with its cock out. And he can pull soft and weepy ('316') so why have they always hid behind vocals. Do a serious balls to the wall instrumental album and reinvent fingerpicking and chunky rock chords.

Eddie could freaking do it. Why he hasn't done any solo album is still got me itchin' my head. (besides that boring 11 minute thing he did with Alex for the "Twister" soundtrack).

Ed + Mike + Alex = totally rocking heavy instrumental album.

THAT is the way they should go out.


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