What's been the worst sample/remixing in a song?
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What's been the worst sample/remixing in a song?
Listenoing to some older techno the other day, I was amazed by the atrociousness of what seemed to be a remix of INXS' "Never Tear Us APart". It was Tall Paul's track, "Precious Heart", which uses about half the INXS song's lyrics. It sounds BAD.
Then you have the remixes; I still shudder at Puff Daddy's redux of the Police's "Roxanne". Using "Roxanne Roxanne"? Pras? Ugh.
Of course, there's always "Ice Ice Baby"... but hey, that one's fun!
Then you have the remixes; I still shudder at Puff Daddy's redux of the Police's "Roxanne". Using "Roxanne Roxanne"? Pras? Ugh.
Of course, there's always "Ice Ice Baby"... but hey, that one's fun!
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Re: What's been the worst sample/remixing in a song?
I predict the popular answer will be the Biggie tribute song that lifted pretty much all of the Police's "Every Breath You Take." I've always given Puffy more credit than most everyone else because he is (or was, rather) really effective at what he produces - radio singles and club bangers. But a creative sampler, he is not.
Whoa - they're two different songs!
Queen's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum" while Ice's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum ching." Different as night and day.
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Of course, there's always "Ice Ice Baby"... but hey, that one's fun!
Of course, there's always "Ice Ice Baby"... but hey, that one's fun!
Queen's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum" while Ice's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum ching." Different as night and day.
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Originally posted by DJLinus
Whoa - they're two different songs!
Queen's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum" while Ice's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum ching." Different as night and day.
Whoa - they're two different songs!
Queen's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum" while Ice's goes "dum dum dum de de dum dum ching." Different as night and day.
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This is a field with many, many valid answers one could think of, but I'll have to go with Brian Wilson sampling... well, himself as the worst one I've heard.
While it's not exactly something you can go to the store and buy, he had a solo album that was rejected by his label (which isn't suprising once heard). It got released as a bootleg under the title of "Sweet Insanity." Not sure if that was the official title or just an apt one picked by someone else.
Anyways, there's a track on there called either "Smart Girls" or maybe "Dumb Girls" which is about how he spent his Beach Boys days singing about pretty, shallow, giggly girls, and now he's seen the light and wants to sing about smart, nerdy girls. When he's rapping* about "dumb girls" there's a sample of "Help Me Rhonda" (I think) which is completely tacked on and badly integrated into the song. Sampling yourself is never really a good thing, and doing it in such a surreal, horrible way just makes it worse.
*Yeah, it's a rap song. A Brian Wilson rap song. The real highlight is the part where he goes "Big brains are AWESOMMMMMEE." Any internet savvy folks should try looking it up and listening to it for kicks. Be warned though; I've always had a hard time taking Brian Wilson serious after hearing this "song." It's kind of like seeing Jesus Christ beat up a little kid; sure, it wouldn't dismiss all the good he's done, but it's still a rather awkward sight.
While it's not exactly something you can go to the store and buy, he had a solo album that was rejected by his label (which isn't suprising once heard). It got released as a bootleg under the title of "Sweet Insanity." Not sure if that was the official title or just an apt one picked by someone else.
Anyways, there's a track on there called either "Smart Girls" or maybe "Dumb Girls" which is about how he spent his Beach Boys days singing about pretty, shallow, giggly girls, and now he's seen the light and wants to sing about smart, nerdy girls. When he's rapping* about "dumb girls" there's a sample of "Help Me Rhonda" (I think) which is completely tacked on and badly integrated into the song. Sampling yourself is never really a good thing, and doing it in such a surreal, horrible way just makes it worse.
*Yeah, it's a rap song. A Brian Wilson rap song. The real highlight is the part where he goes "Big brains are AWESOMMMMMEE." Any internet savvy folks should try looking it up and listening to it for kicks. Be warned though; I've always had a hard time taking Brian Wilson serious after hearing this "song." It's kind of like seeing Jesus Christ beat up a little kid; sure, it wouldn't dismiss all the good he's done, but it's still a rather awkward sight.
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One of the most painful has got to be that Jay-Z song with the fucking ANNIE sample!!! There's nothing more hardcore than being backed by a chorus of little white children on Broadway. Originally I thought it was some kind of put-on, but then I saw the guy in an interview & he just didn't seem like the ironic sort. I remember teens at the time slowly cruising around, thinking they were cool, bass up, blasting this song loud enough for a 5 block radius. I didn't know if I should fall down laughing or run over & kill them. Did they even know what they were listening to?
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Does the 1996 slaughtering of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody by some hip-hop fucks called The Braids count?
If so, consider my vote cast.
If so, consider my vote cast.
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Originally posted by Lokimok
One of the most painful has got to be that Jay-Z song with the fucking ANNIE sample!!! There's nothing more hardcore than being backed by a chorus of little white children on Broadway. Originally I thought it was some kind of put-on, but then I saw the guy in an interview & he just didn't seem like the ironic sort. I remember teens at the time slowly cruising around, thinking they were cool, bass up, blasting this song loud enough for a 5 block radius. I didn't know if I should fall down laughing or run over & kill them. Did they even know what they were listening to?
One of the most painful has got to be that Jay-Z song with the fucking ANNIE sample!!! There's nothing more hardcore than being backed by a chorus of little white children on Broadway. Originally I thought it was some kind of put-on, but then I saw the guy in an interview & he just didn't seem like the ironic sort. I remember teens at the time slowly cruising around, thinking they were cool, bass up, blasting this song loud enough for a 5 block radius. I didn't know if I should fall down laughing or run over & kill them. Did they even know what they were listening to?
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The lamest one in my opinion is Third Bass's "Pop Goes the Weasel" which samples "Sledgehammer." The problem is "Pop" is a diss song against Vanilla Ice and "Ice Ice Baby" where they say "You stole sombody's record and you looped it, you looped it..." referring to the loop sample of "Under Pressure." However at the same time they're sampling a much more famous, more recent, and more overplayed song than Vanilla Ice did (remember, Queen was pretty out of the limelight in the US at the time) and in a much less effective way. Vanilla Ice is a fool (and stealing the sample was sheisty, altho it was standard operating procedure at the time) but the use of "Under Pressure" in that song is pretty tight. The sample of the "Sledghammer" keyboard run in "Pop Goes the Weasel" is absolutely terrible. To me, it just made them look petty and stupid.
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Oh, and on Puff Daddy's uncreative sampling, the amazing thing is that he often uses really obvious samples, but he's not even the first RAPPER to SAMPLE them:
"Come With Me" samples "Kashmir" but Schooly D did that years before on "The Signifying Rapper" (familiar to "Bad Lieutenant fans
"Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" (you probably don't remember the title and I had to look it up but it was huge) samples Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" but Ice Cube had already done that on the far superior "Check Yo Self"
Just so lame.
"Come With Me" samples "Kashmir" but Schooly D did that years before on "The Signifying Rapper" (familiar to "Bad Lieutenant fans
"Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" (you probably don't remember the title and I had to look it up but it was huge) samples Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" but Ice Cube had already done that on the far superior "Check Yo Self"
Just so lame.
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I don't remember who it was, but there was one video I saw on Rap City years ago that had the beginning of Jackson Five's "I want you back" playing over and over in a loop.
Just sounded terrible.
Just sounded terrible.
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It's not a terrible remix, but every time I listen to 2Pac's "All Eyes On Me" album, I get frustrated by the version of "California Love" on there. The original was a huge hit, and there was no excuse to leave it off of such a legendary album.
Does anyone remember "My Melody" by Eric B & Rakim from the "Paid in Full" album? Awesome lyrics and beat, but the remix on there is a hacked up version of the original. It can be unlistenable at times.
The one I really hate is the "Push It" remix, by Salt & Pepa. Someone (Hurby Luv Bug?) had the bright idea to add some weird horn sounds to the original and managed to screw it up. The original & superior version is about impossible to hear, except for some old-school radio mix shows.
Does anyone remember "My Melody" by Eric B & Rakim from the "Paid in Full" album? Awesome lyrics and beat, but the remix on there is a hacked up version of the original. It can be unlistenable at times.
The one I really hate is the "Push It" remix, by Salt & Pepa. Someone (Hurby Luv Bug?) had the bright idea to add some weird horn sounds to the original and managed to screw it up. The original & superior version is about impossible to hear, except for some old-school radio mix shows.
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It's not a terrible remix, but every time I listed to 2Pac's "All Eyes On Me" album, I get frustrated by the version of "California Love" on there. The original was a huge hit, and there was no excuse to leave it off of such a legendary album.
It's not a terrible remix, but every time I listed to 2Pac's "All Eyes On Me" album, I get frustrated by the version of "California Love" on there. The original was a huge hit, and there was no excuse to leave it off of such a legendary album.
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Funny how basically every song mentioned is a rap, I mean hip-hop, song. That says alot.
Funny how basically every song mentioned is a rap, I mean hip-hop, song. That says alot.
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I don't remember who it was, but there was one video I saw on Rap City years ago that had the beginning of Jackson Five's "I want you back" playing over and over in a loop.
Just sounded terrible.
Just sounded terrible.
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Originally Posted by Rivero
Puff Daddy doing that fuckin song with the Led Zeppelin "Kashmir" sample for fuckin Godzilla.
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I'll further the above comment by saying piss on any fuck or "band" of fucks who don't have the talent to come up with original material, and cash in on someone else's established fame. Especially that Puffy character...the most useless, talentless waste of flesh to ever intrude on the music world. Go design some clothes and leave the entertainment to people who can actually accomplish the feat with the respect they deserve.
This one's for you, Sean Combs......
This one's for you, Sean Combs......
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