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Nesbit 10-03-06 08:22 AM

I don't see what you're all going on about. If you listen to the song the last verse calls out radicals and racists so CLEARLY he can't be a racist.......

FrozenMetalHead 10-03-06 10:17 AM

I don't have the time/energy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Axl distanced himself from both "One in a Million" and "Used to Love Her" around the time either the live album or the greatest hits album came out [Although "Used to Love Her" was on the live album]. Anyways, I seem to remember reading that he planned to re-release Lies without those two tracks on them. Of course, that never happened.

nodeerforamonth 10-03-06 11:06 AM

This whole debate is almost 20 years old.

YAWN!

I saw them open up for the Stones back in '89 and he gave a 10 minute rant about that song. And that was even before they went on. When the Stones came on (late due to GnR showing up 90min late), Mick said "I'm not going to do any talking tonight. I think Axl's done enough for both of us."

freshticles 10-03-06 11:28 AM

The last album this band wrote is about 20 years old.

YAWN!

kilcher 10-03-06 01:41 PM

I don't think songwriting is any different than writing for a book, movie, or TV show. It's to tell a story, to entertain, to make people think. It's not always meant to be taken literally or to reflect the point of view of the person who wrote it. Besides, A) it was written, what, 15 years ago? and B) who really cares what Axl thinks/thought. Get over it. Get on with your life. If it bothers you that much go out and donate some time to make the world a better place.

Nesbit 10-03-06 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by FrozenMetalHead
I don't have the time/energy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Axl distanced himself from both "One in a Million" and "Used to Love Her" around the time either the live album or the greatest hits album came out [Although "Used to Love Her" was on the live album]. Anyways, I seem to remember reading that he planned to re-release Lies without those two tracks on them. Of course, that never happened.

I've never heard of any controversy concerning Used to Love Her or anything about Axl distancing himself from the song and I'm a huge GNR fan. It is a great song.

JZ1276 10-04-06 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by MJKTool
Not I. Guns was my favorite band at one time. GNR will never be GNR without Slash, Duff, Izzy & Axl.

OK a few things...NO, GNR would NOT be the same without the original line up. However, Axl Rose is THE BEST frontman in existence, and any project he works on will be incredible I'm sure. This album can bring back rock and roll (emo music does not count).

Now...Matt Sorum will do just as well if not better than Adler.

Also...Oh My God should NOT be on this album....the song is 7 years old.

Lastly, as far as the original lineup getting back together...it's not going to happen as long as Velvet Revolver is around.

sureAV421 10-06-06 05:02 PM

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/36219600

Guns 'confirm' "Chinese Democracy"

10/06/2006 4:00 PM, Yahoo! Music
Dotmusic

The new Guns N' Roses album will be released next month, it has been claimed.

Chinese Democracy has been mooted for around a decade by Axl Rose, the only surviving member of the band since their days of rock 'n' roll world domination.

However with the group recently completing a relatively successful and trouble-free European tour and scheduling more dates in the U.S., new recordings also seem imminent.

According to claims in Rolling Stone this week, Chinese Democracy has officially been scheduled for an American release date of November 21.

Earlier in the week, a cryptic statement from the group backed up such speculation, insisting "there are 13 Tuesdays left between now and the end of the year."

There has so far been no official confirmation on these reports.

JZ1276 10-06-06 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by freshticles
...I've read like 5 other excuses he gives for using the word ******, all different.... ...and what about the immigrants and faggots part??...if ****** .


I don;t get it ... why will the forum allow you to spell out "immigrants" and "faggots" but they will not allow you to spell out "nig*ger"?

Matt 10-06-06 10:38 PM

Since when is "immigrants" a questionable word?

gerrythedon 10-06-06 10:39 PM

ok when the date is confirmed/announced, can we please get a new thread started. :)

DarthMarino 10-19-06 07:39 PM

I got this from Blabbermouth.net:

In the new issue of Rolling Stone (web site) hitting stands this Friday (Oct. 20), writer Brian Hiatt reveals what he's discovered about the long-awaited GUNS N' ROSES album "Chinese Democracy". The article begins with this elusive quote from GN'R manager Merck Mercuriadis, in which he essentially retreads stuff we already know: "The album will come out this year. There are ten Tuesdays left before January — it will come out on one of them."

Following GUNS' headlining gig in San Bernadino, California, on September 23, GUNS N' ROSES frontman Axl Rose threw a party at his mansion and played the full album in his poolroom for visitors, including his friend Sebastian Bach, former singer of SKID ROW. "It was mind-blowing," says Bach, who is opening for GUNS N' ROSES on their upcoming North American arena tour. "It's a very cool album — it's badass with killer screams, killer guitar riffs, but it's got a totally modern sound. The word for it is 'grand.' It’s fucking epic. He's reinvented himself yet again."

The album includes some tracks that have been played live or leaked onto the Internet, including the poppy "Better" and the hard-hitting "I.R.S." "There's this one song called 'Sorry' that's almost like doom metal with Axl singing really clean over this grinding, slow beat that is fucking mean," says Bach. "I cannot get it out of my head."

Veteran engineer Andy Wallace, who mixed NIRVANA's "Nevermind", is working on the project, according to a source close to the band. "We're absolutely delighted with the mixes," the source told Rolling Stone.

On October 24, the band will kick off its North American tour in Miami. Two dates — November 10 in New York and November 20 in Halifax, Nova Scotia — are already sold out, according to Mercuriadis. Additional U.S. dates will be added in early 2007, and the band will return to the States in the summer as well, he says.

Though a source told Rolling Stone that the album is due November 21, Mercuriadis declined to confirm this. "I don't know that we will announce a release date," he says. "You just might walk into your record shop one Tuesday and find it there."

gerrythedon 10-19-06 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by DarthMarino
The album includes some tracks that have been played live or leaked onto the Internet, including the poppy "Better" and the hard-hitting "I.R.S." [/B]

I have Better [actually both] in pretty Good quality and I'm digging that song.

benedict 10-20-06 11:58 AM

Wasn't Sebastian Bach at one point lined up to front Velvet Revolver?
 

Originally Posted by Blabbermouth.net
"You just might walk into your record shop one Tuesday and find it there."

.... and you might not.

YourOlympicHero 10-20-06 03:15 PM

"Better" is featured in a new Harley Davidson commercial.

It can be viewed here:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...lack_Sheep.jsp

dvduser6 10-20-06 03:39 PM

Apologies in advance if this was already answered in the thread: is Axl still signed with Geffen, or will he be releasing the new album under a different label?

Adam Tyner 10-20-06 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jippy
is Axl still signed with Geffen

With as much money as they've funnelled into "Chinese Democracy", there is no chance of anyone else releasing it.

gerrythedon 10-20-06 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jippy
Apologies in advance if this was already answered in the thread: is Axl still signed with Geffen, or will he be releasing the new album under a different label?

No he's not with Geffen anymore... Sanctuary Records, I believe. It's somewhere in this long ass thread. :)

kilcher 10-21-06 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by YourOlympicHero
"Better" is featured in a new Harley Davidson commercial.

It can be viewed here:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/C...lack_Sheep.jsp

I couldn't find it at that link. In case it doesn't work for anyone else you can also view it here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaKffKwyneY

Nesbit 10-25-06 05:29 AM

So it looks like it will be out shortly. I will pick it up at lunch on the release date. I've waited 13 years for this album. Who else is buying it?

nodeerforamonth 10-25-06 07:46 AM

I'll believe it when I see it.

If it's going to be out in the next 8 weeks, where are the promo copies? The pressing plant should at least have the master!

nodeerforamonth 10-25-06 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by kilcher
I couldn't find it at that link. In case it doesn't work for anyone else you can also view it here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaKffKwyneY

Wow. Sounds very... "processed".

I'll wait until I hear more before buying.

wlj 10-26-06 12:24 PM

i got my hands on a leaked copy months ago. very different from any other GNR material.

nodeerforamonth 10-26-06 01:46 PM

well considering how Axl was still making changes not even 2 weeks ago, I somehow doubt you have a "leaked copy" of the real thing.

DVD Josh 10-26-06 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by wlj
i got my hands on a leaked copy months ago. very different from any other GNR material.

Seriously, who throws a shoe?


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