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Old 08-28-03, 04:09 PM
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PopMatters 100 Songs of '77-'03 (answer to VH-1)

While we're in the list mode, I'm curious to see how much blood will boil with this one.

To start off, I was surprised by a couple picks - not always a good surprise, not always a bad one. I take generally all lists with a grain of salt, but I found myself at many ends with the list in general (how many times do Elvis Costello and The Pixies really need to be on there?). I think that some will shrug, some will be mildly pleased, and more will complain about esoteric music and the lists they spawn.

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wow a list that does contain the good songs of metallica (most lists like this just do sandman)
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I didn't think the list was too awful, but I think that's because they don't wander too far "off the beaten path" and I tend to dislike lists that (IMO) pick willfully obscure songs. For better or worse, there are few songs that readers won't at least be familiar with. I thought the list tended to favor more established artists than "one-hit wonders" ("Groove Is In The Heart" being an exception, not the rule) -- hence more preoccupation with Elvis Costello and the Pixies, perhaps.

(By the way, I know Deee-Lite had more than one song and one album, but to a commercial radio listener like me, they fell off the face of the earth after that song.)

To each their own. Let the flogging begin.

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Not a bad list, in my opinion. I'd say there's far too little Elvis Costello, and those songs of his that are there are way to far down on the list. Watching the Detectives should be in the top 5, along with Love Will Tear Us Apart, Bittersweet Symphony, Common People, and That's Entertainment by The Jam.

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Yes, the one song that I've always thought deserved more attention was "Love Will Tear Us Apart." That was one of the best surprises I've seen on a list.
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Welp..

Smells Like Teen Spirit at #1 again, just proves that this list was made by sheep for sheep. No need to even investigate it further.
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Welp..

Smells Like Teen Spirit at #1 again, just proves that this list was made by sheep for sheep. No need to even investigate it further.
Yeah, because once you disagree with one song, you should slap those blinders on yr eyes like a racehorse. A brilliant and cogent analysis.
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This list is not loving enough. My heart is in pain as I see there is no Pink Floyd or Frank Sinatra...sadness as these songs are filled with memories.
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did frank do any good stuff in the 70's and on? The only song that would make the list from floyd are either another brick in the wall pt. 2 or comfortably numb. they never made anything decent after that.
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did frank do any good stuff in the 70's and on? The only song that would make the list from floyd are either another brick in the wall pt. 2 or comfortably numb. they never made anything decent after that.
Sinatra's last songs of any importance were "The Summer Wind", "That's Life", and "Strangers In the Night". They all came out on the mid-60's. Pink Floyd never contributed anything useful to pop music after Syd Barrett left the band.
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Yeah, because once you disagree with one song, you should slap those blinders on yr eyes like a racehorse. A brilliant and cogent analysis.
When it comes to that song being number one on a list, it pretty much tells me a little about who came up with the list, and what I probably will think of the list. I wasn't in the mood for a joke at the time, so I didn't read it any further.

Yes, it was a brilliant analysis to say that that list was made by sheep for sheep. Thank you, thank you very much.

Now stop rolling your eyes at me, or I'll poke them out!
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Go read the list. Maybe you'll be surprised.
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Allright I will here in a little while, what the heck.
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Jeremy should be on this list.

It's not my favorite PJ song, but they should have had at least one song on this list.
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Yes, the one song that I've always thought deserved more attention was "Love Will Tear Us Apart." That was one of the best surprises I've seen on a list.
If I made my own list that song would end up at the very top.
Easily.
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Speaking as a white-boy, ex-record-store-clerk, indie-kid kinda guy, that's a white-boy, ex-record-store-clerk, indie-kid kinda list. Lots of great songs are on there, but a lot is missing as well.

Edit: my list from that old top 100 songs thread:
1. Clash- Rudie Canít Fail
2. Sonic Youth- Teenage Riot
3. Pulp- Common People
4. Smashing Pumpkins- 1979
5. Tribe Called Quest- Award Tour
6. My Bloody Valentine- Only Shallow
7. Cheap Trick- Surrender
8. REM- End of the World As We Know It
9. Motley Crue- Looks that Kill
10. Cars- My Best Friendís Girl
11. Blondie- Heart of Glass
12. Gary Numan- Cars
13. Chemical Brothers- Chemical Beats
14. Moby- Feeling So Real
15. Shannon- Let the Music Play
16. Foo Fighters- Everlong
17. Talking Heads- Once in a Lifetime
18. Prince- When Doves Cry
19. Weezer- Simple Pages
20. Don Henley- Boys of Summer
21. Boston- More Than a Feeliní
22. Kraftwerk- Computer Love
23. Ministry- Jesus Built my Hotrod
24. Beck- Devilís Haircut
25. The Laís- There She Goes
26. The Cure- Pictures of You
27. The Smiths- The Boy with The Thorn in His Side
28. The Sundays- Hereís Where the Story Ends
29. New Order- Blue Monday
30. Joy Division- Love Will Tear Us Apart
31. Magnetic Fields- Donít Want to Get Over You
32. Sebadoh- Freed Pig
33. Dinosaur Jr.- The Wagon
34. Pixies- Where is My Mind
35. XTC- Grass
36. Love and Rockets- No New Tale to Tell
37. Def Leppard- Photograph
38. The Police- Donít Stand so Close to Me
39. AC/DC- Shook me All Night Long
40. Joe Jackson- Is She Really going Out With Him
41. The Jam- Thatís Entertainment
42. Elvis Costello- Less Than Zero
43. The Pretenders- Back on the Chain Gang
44. Blur- Parklife
45. Pavement- Summer Babe
46. Liz Phair- **** and Run
47. PJ Harvey- Rid of Me
48. Cypress Hill- Hand on the Pump
49. Outkast- B.O.B.
50. Beastie Boys- Shake your Rump
51. Go-Gos- Our Lips are Sealed
52. X- The Worldís a Mess (itís in my kiss)
53. The Church- Under the Milky Way
54. Nirvana- Smells like Teen Spirit
55. Janeís Addiction- Been Caught Stealing
56. U2- I Still havenít Found What Iím Looking For
57. The Verve- Bittersweet Symphony
58. Stone Roses- She Bangs the Drums
59. Tom Petty- Here Comes My Girl
60. Bruce Springsteen- Born in the USA
61. The Pogues- Pair of Brown Eyes
62. English Beat- Mirror in the Bathroom
63. Bob Marley- Redemption Song
64. Van Halen- Panama
65. Peter Gabriel- Big Time
66. Devo- Whip It
67. Replacements- Bastards of Young
68. Bjork- Hyperballad
69. Mission of Burma- Thatís When I Reach for My Revolver
70. Camper Van Beethoven- Take the Skinheads Bowling
71. Violent Femmes- Blister in the Sun
72. Tears for Fears- Everybody Wants to Rule the World
73. Flaming Lips- Race for the Cure
74. Breeders- Cannonball
75. Soundgarden- Rusty Cage
76. Jesus and Mary Chain- Happy When it Rains
77. Neutral Milk Hotel- Ghost
78. Manic Street Preachers- Yes
79. Husker Du- Makes no Sense At All
80. Arrested Development- Tennesee
81. Alice in Chains- Dam That River
82. Mercury Rev- Tonight, It Shows
83. Slint- Good Morning, Captain
84. Sinead OíConnor- The Emporerís New Clothes
85. Fleetwood Mac- Gypsy
86. The Cult- She Sells Sanctuary
87. DJ Shadow- Building Steam with a Grain of Salt
88. Squeeze- Black Coffee in Bed
89. Queen- Another One Bites the Dust
90. Radiohead- Let Down
91. Sigur Ros- Ńgaetis Byrjun
92. Massive Attack- Angel
93. Prodigy- Smack my Bitch Up
94. Guns N Roses- Paradise City
95. Dr. Octagon- Blue Flowers
96. Gorillaz- Clint Eastwood
97. Nine Inch Nails- Closer
98. White Stripes- Black Math
99. Luna- Chinatown
100. Ultra Vivid Scene- Special One

A lot of similarities there...

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There are a few stinkers on here, but overall this list is much more in keeping with my tastes than any I've seen so far. Of course, my Top 100 77-03 could be composed entirely of Costello, Clash or REM songs.

edited because I'm a doofus.

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