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I know its illegal but if someone finds a *real* song from St. Anger on newsgroups it would like to know so I can try to get it. Just want to hear the new stuff, not trying to cheat Metallica, I'll be first on line June 10th.
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What other band(s) has this new bassist been in? The name sounds vaguely familiar.
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Originally posted by Goat3001
I know its illegal but if someone finds a *real* song from St. Anger on newsgroups it would like to know so I can try to get it. Just want to hear the new stuff, not trying to cheat Metallica, I'll be first on line June 10th.
i think it will be a month or so before anything legit surfaces
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Originally posted by DumDum
What other band(s) has this new bassist been in? The name sounds vaguely familiar.
Ozzy
Jerry Cantrell
Suicidal Tendencies
Infectious Grooves
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Man all this stuff I'm reading here sounds great. It really sounds like Metallica are finally getting back to their roots. It's hard to become a Metallica fan again because most of the stuff they put out in the 90's didn't interest me at all. I thought their last 3 albums were somewhat mediocre, and didn't reach their potential as a band. I'm more of an early Metallica person, my favorite albums are And Justice for All and Master of Puppets. I hope this new album is similar to those, if it is I will definitely get this.
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Wasn't Reload suppose be the heaviest album Metallica did at the time?

I am going to be wait and see about this. I could care less what they look like, but after Load and Reload it is just hard to get excited about a Metallica album. Plus the fact they are on tour with Limp Bizkit and Lincoln Park isn't really helping matters. I really hope that they are going to do a metal album with this one. It would be nice to actually like a new Metallica album for once.
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Originally posted by cerial442
Wasn't Reload suppose be the heaviest album Metallica did at the time?

Where did you hear that? Never something I heard mentioned within the band or anything. However, for what it's worth Reload has some wicked heavy tracks, Devil's Dance is easily one of the heaviest tunes they've ever penned.

Heavy and fast don't always go together. A song like fixxer has some pretty heavy aspects to it, it just isn't all heavy.

But then, there is "better than you" which is without a doubt the worst Metallica song ever written IMO. I like everything else on the album, some more than others of course. Fixxer, Devils Dance, Bad Seed, and Where the Wild things are, happen to be my favorite.
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Originally posted by cerial442
Wasn't Reload suppose be the heaviest album Metallica did at the time?
I never heard this?

Personally I've always looked at Load & ReLoad as one album split up (sorta like GNR's Use Your Illusion Albums). I never thought S&M was a legit album release either, more like greatest hits album put over an orchestra. Sorta the same with Garage Days. So in actuality there has only been one release of new Metallica material since the Black album.
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Originally posted by MJKTool
I never heard this?

Personally I've always looked at Load & ReLoad as one album split up (sorta like GNR's Use Your Illusion Albums). I never thought S&M was a legit album release either, more like greatest hits album put over an orchestra. Sorta the same with Garage Days. So in actuality there has only been one release of new Metallica material since the Black album.
agreed, load and reload were both recorded in the same sessions, and initially was going to be a double disc album.

S&M did feature 2 new tracks, neither of which will be on St. Anger. However, studio versions minus the orchestra may show up as B-sides or whatever. Hope so

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I heard James Hetfield mention that once in an interview.

I wouldn't really call any song on Load or Reload heavy. I am not saying every song has to be heavy to be good.

I don't know if it was recorded during the Load/Reload sessions, but the song "I Disappear" would probably be their worst song, IMO.
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Originally posted by cerial442
I heard James Hetfield mention that once in an interview.

I wouldn't really call any song on Load or Reload heavy. I am not saying every song has to be heavy to be good.

I don't know if it was recorded during the Load/Reload sessions, but the song "I Disappear" would probably be their worst song, IMO.
Het said that? Huh.

You don't think Devils Dance is heavy? I would agree however that not every song has to be heavy to be good. I think they did some amazing stuff on those two albums, just new and different. Nobody else has done anything similar to it. Certainly some "filler" material on there. They did a lot of amazing stuff early that wasn't heavy that is also great like "fade to black" "welcome home (santitarium)" etc..

"I disappear" is not one of their best, but at least it was catchy and a fun little singalong and served it's purpose. It was written pretty quick and recorded all within a day. They were initially trying to get the theme song for MI2, but lost out to Limp Shiznit. So, I disappear was thrown together fast after they learned they lost on the title theme.
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Originally posted by db27
I think they did some amazing stuff on those two albums, just new and different. Nobody else has done anything similar to it. Certainly some "filler" material on there. They did a lot of amazing stuff early that wasn't heavy that is also great like "fade to black" "welcome home (santitarium)" etc..
You know I have been listening to Load today...and it really is a great album....its just different like you said. The Outlaw Torn is is so bad ass. IMO Load kicks 90% of the current "rock" music's ass right now. It's a shame people didnt give those two records a fair shot, but just wrote Metallica off because it was different.
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OUTLAW TORN and WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE are F'N AWESOME... I have RESPECT for METALLICA, for releasing LOAD/RELOAD. GREAT ALBUMS... Be ready for ST. ANGER.

I just want to know how are they gonna promote ST. ANGER w/o a MTV friendly single/video... since it has NONE [according to KIRK]

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Originally posted by gerrythedon
OUTLAW TORN and WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE are F'N AWESOME... I have RESPECT for METALLICA, for releasing LOAD/RELOAD. GREAT ALBUMS... Be ready for ST. ANGER.

I just want to know how are they gonna promote ST. ANGER w/o a MTV friendly single/video... since it has NONE [according to KIRK]
They got that covered. May 5th Metallica will be the subject of a hour and a half special MTVicon. Artists and fans will pay homage to Metallica, at the end MEtallica will play live for the first time with Rob and play 2 new songs from St. Anger!!!

I can't wait.
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Originally posted by db27
They got that covered. May 5th Metallica will be the subject of a hour and a half special MTVicon. Artists and fans will pay homage to Metallica, at the end MEtallica will play live for the first time with Rob and play 2 new songs from St. Anger!!!

I can't wait.
Yeah I'm trying to win tickets from the METALLICA club... I've been a member since BIRTH and really[12x's] want to go!
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Here are some of the rumored "artists" to play at the ICON thing:
Korn
Limp Bizkit
Sum 41
Avirl Lavigne

Well so much for that. Did anyone see the Aerosmith ICON they had? It was terrible, and this one looks worse. Much worse.
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I REALLY hope that rumor is false!

We all saw how great Avril covered a system song!
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Originally posted by cerial442
Here are some of the rumored "artists" to play at the ICON thing:
Korn
Limp Bizkit
Sum 41
Avirl Lavigne

Well so much for that. Did anyone see the Aerosmith ICON they had? It was terrible, and this one looks worse. Much worse.
Korn and Sum 41 could be interesting. They will indeed get popular artists to do the stuff, after all it's MTV.

Bottom line, Metallica performs, everything else is just details.
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Add Kid Rock to the list. It went from bad to worse.

I know MTV has to get popular bands to perform, but I mean come on.
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MEGADETH would be NICE!
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Damn you people. I was awaiting this release but I really wasn't super excited. Now I'm excited. Really excited. Damn you. June 10th is a long ways away.

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TRACK REVIEWS

a track review from encymet.com

swear on the bible, on my mother's grave or whatever - the following text is nothing less than the complete truth. This statement needs to be made, quite simply because you're probably not going to believe me. I almost wonder if I've really listened to the new Metallica album "St Anger" myself, or if somebody has been playing a trick on me and played me some new, exciting aggro-band. You see, "St. Anger" is a chock, one of music history's greatest! It is as if "Load" and "Reload" has been deleted from the map, as if the Black Album never existed, as if the Metallica we've come to know never really existed. The five songs (all of which are as of yet untitled but the title-track) I've heard exhibits a sound so EXTREME and raw that all you can do is sit there chocked with your jaw on the floor.

I'm not joking.

Twenty journalists are gathered in the control-room of the studio north of San Francisco. We get comfortable. The air is vibrating with excitement, and then? BAM!! The first song (working title: Frantic) kicks in with hypnotic, almost industrial Slayer-riffs. What the **** is going on? "You live it or lie it", chants James Hetfield and goes on with "my lifestyle determines my death style". It is ultra-tight metalcore like it has never been performed before. Lars ulrich's fat drum-sound is replaced with an oilrig-similar snare that's usually reminiscent of robotic industry-metal. "Do I have the strength?", a wondering Hetfield screams in the middle of the chaos. It is a maddening Blitzkriegstrategy with attack-waves of battering riffs, attacking from every angle for five minutes and 54 seconds.

I'm not joking.

The war as just begun, and I really mean THE WAR, because this music would be the perfect soundtrack to the media coverage of the war on Iraq. The title-track blazes away with a ultra-fast bulldozermosh that leaves Max Cavalera far behind. We are talking monster-metallized punk from another planet; a twisted and overdosed Dischange just released from rehab! We are talking beyond sound-speed, especially regarding the drum-work. The double-bass pounds away mercilessly and Lars Ulrich's use of the snare are almost -get this!- blast-beats!! It's going to be interesting seeing him trying to repeat this live - if the dane is usually soaked from sweat and carried to the lodge after traditional concerts, then he's going to need an oxygen-mask and hospital personnel to wake him back to life after this. Following this amazing intro comes a softer part where Hetfield sings "St. Anger around my neck, he never gets respect." This ten second long part, recurring a couple of times in the seven minute and 24 second long song, is the only part that could be classified as soft. The Producer Bob Rock (also on bass) assures me that this is the calmest, most stripped-down part on the whole album. WOW! A riff similar to "Creeping Death" follows. Hetfield howls "**** it all and ****ing no regrets" (an exact recapitulation of the classic in "Damage Inc."). Towards the end of the song he screams "I need to set my anger free"... and this is exactly what he and Metallica does: releasing all their anger.

I'm not joking.

Song number three starts up like an updated "Ride the Lightning": MEga-fat thrash-metal in midtempo speed. The vocalist spits: "It and you can look out mother****ers, here I come!". Sepultura's "Roots"-era sound reminiscent in this song, with the refrain "It world" repeated again and again. Before the song ends at five minutes and 51 seconds, Hetfield shouts "enough, enough, enough"

I'm not joking.

Have you missed the complex song-structures of "And Justice for All"? Compared to this around eight minutes long piece (working title "Monster"), the songs of the 1988 album seem more like simple Ramones' ditties. A progressive blanket of sound that warms like a massive and super-intricate Tool, only a thousand times heavier! Hetfield chants over a delicious part that goes into what could be called a chorus with some use of fantasy: "We the people, are we the people?". This phrase is repeated two times and "some kind of monster" three times before the singer concludes "this monster lives". There is actually something here that could be called groove, not entirely unlike Pantera although vastly heavier. The guitars are so damned insane, so damned evil, so damned incredible! The fact is that there isn't anything remotely like a traditional guitar-solo in any of these five songs. Hetfield and Kirk Hammett use their instruments like surgical tools. The guitars shrieks and scream as if Tom Morello and Kerry King made a deal and decided to take the Devil's music not one but ten steps further.

I'm not joking.

The most wicked part is however the last, whose working-name is "All Within My Hands". A very strange piece with an instrumental intro of one minute and fifteen seconds. The tempo is ultra-fast, taking so many twists and turns that you get all dizzy. "All Within My Hands" is shouted and then sung in an Alice In Chains manner. And the ending? MAN OH MAN! Like a possessed madman Hetfield screams "Kill kill kill kill!!" ad absurdum - we're talking deranged shrieks coming from a psychopathic Tom Araya (think Slayer's "Kill Again" only even more insane). You'd think it was over after that. But no. It is like watching an exciting thriller with so many surprises that you finally don't believe an ending is forthcoming. Yes, after a heavy-as-lead finale it winds down at eight minutes and 55 seconds.

I'm not joking.

20 Journalists finally leave the control-room and look at each other. No one needs say anything; the looks say it all: What in god's name have we just experienced? That Metallica, once tired old farts, have made a complete 180, and now sound like a bunch of hormone-reeking bucks in heat, is the most incredible thing that's happened in music history. "St. Anger" is the real "Reload". "St. Anger" doesn't sound like anything the group has done before, it hardly even sounds like Metallica. "St. Anger" is a modern, super-brutal metal-album that is going to chock and knock the entire music world. Melodies? Nope, there's not much here that reminds one of traditional melodies or arrangements such as verse, bridge, chorus. The 10th of June could become known as the day that shook the world. If you haven't catched on yet:

I'm not joking.
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Psst... Rypro, read the whole thread before posting
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ST. ANGER IS FINISHED | 04/09/2003

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Yesterday we finished work on our tenth album (eighth studio album) titled "St. Anger." We are looking forward to sharing the new music with the world June 9th in Europe, June 10th everywhere else.


Produced by Bob Rock, the album was recorded at our San Rafael Headquarters. In addition to the eleven tracks on 'St. Anger,' the package will include a free DVD of live rehearsal recordings of all eleven songs, also captured at HQ.



Here are the eleven official song titles, clocking in at just over 75 minutes:

Frantic
St. Anger
Some Kind of Monster
Dirty Window
Invisible Kid
My World
Shoot Me Again
Sweet Amber
Unnamed Feeling
Purify
All Within My Hands

Artwork is now being finalized . . . details coming soon. Watch this space for more info . . .
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Originally posted by gerrythedon
I just want to know how are they gonna promote ST. ANGER w/o a MTV friendly single/video... since it has NONE [according to KIRK] [/B]
Probably the same way they did for Lightning and Puppets.

I'm gonna wait until I hear this album before I buy it. I have ALL their prior stuff (aside from that $#!t live CD with the orchestra), but I've been fooled before into blind-buying based on just who the band is (Megadeth - Risk comes to mind).
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