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Old 02-11-03, 01:52 PM
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Downloading Videos, is it infringing?

I was just curious if anyone knew if downloading MPEG,AVI,etc videos were infringing on some type of copyrights like music and movies do.

It's been something I've done for quite a long time because my family never had cable.
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The choice between downloading illegally or sitting through MTV crap to see videos is no choice at all.
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Old 02-11-03, 08:06 PM
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Granted I'm only a couple of weeks into my copyright law class and we haven't covered infringement yet, I would say that it is most certainly illegal. Videos hold copyrights just as music and movies do.

(I download them from time to time, myself.)
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Old 02-11-03, 09:04 PM
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Thanks. I've always done it, I figured it was rather harmless since it's being televised anyway. I mean, I'm not selling them or editing them or anything. I think that's the case with most people as well.
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Aren't videos considered promotional material anyway?
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Isn't that just about as guilty as recording them off TV with VHS or TiVO? A bunch of the ones I download have just been captured using a TV tuner anyways.
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Between this...and TV Shows, i've never understood exactly why it's illegal. If I miss an episode of ER and then happen to d/l it on a binary NG, what's the difference?

Now, if I missed it..then d/l it..then tried to SELL it..THAT I could understand..
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Old 02-12-03, 01:31 PM
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If I miss an episode of ER and then happen to d/l it on a binary NG, what's the difference?
Because when downloading, viewers aren't counted in the ratings numbers.

Ratings numbers are used to determine the ad rates for that show.

It's a $$$ issue.
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Seeing as how so many great music videos never get played anymore by eMpTV, and have no real legal distribution I would answer a provisional no.
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Old 02-12-03, 02:54 PM
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Because when downloading, viewers aren't counted in the ratings numbers.

Ratings numbers are used to determine the ad rates for that show.

It's a $$$ issue.
Don't you have to be a member/participant in Nielsen Rating System for your vote to truly count?
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Their is a law of time shifting. this makes it legal for you to record something on VHS and view it later.

back when VHS came out the law of Timeshifting came about. It is ok to record something and view it again later because they consider it to be time shifting of the program for later viewing.

One can question that aslong as you do not make any profit off it by selling it then you should be able to download a program given that it is in it's entireity. Meaning the ad's have not be removed or edited out that way you might not be counted as a viewer (though Nielsen covers that for those who are involved with nielsen) but atleast you will be taking part of what did pay for the program.. ad space.

Do not distribute or sell it and I don't see whats wrong with it and It could very well be considered under the whole TIME SHIFTING arguement if you word it right. Just like recording a t.v. show and viewing it later, it's just under a different format.
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Originally posted by Rogue588
Between this...and TV Shows, i've never understood exactly why it's illegal. If I miss an episode of ER and then happen to d/l it on a binary NG, what's the difference?
It's illegal unless the copyright holder authorized the material to be distributed in that manner.
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