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Old 07-15-02, 02:37 PM
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What were your favorite "industrial" band/albums.

Front 242 - I like pretty much like all of their stuff.

Meat Beat Manifesto - "99%" is great

Ministry - I love pretty much everything except "Filth Pig"

Nitzer Ebb - "That Total Age" is great and "Showtime" is good but the rest of their stuff I'm not crazy about.

Skinny Puppy - One of my favorite bands, "Too Dark Park" is one of my favorite albums of all time.
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Laibach - but then someone told me they were neo-nazi's or something like that.
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Definitely Ministry, but also KMFDM. If you're a fan, you gotta get that BeatXBeatXBeat dvd; it rocks.
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KMFDM: Naive
KMFDM: Nihil
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Also Pig (Raymond Watts, formerly of KMFDM).

He's gone relatively unnoticed in the US, in fact his latest couple albums are only available in Japan, but he's done some good stuff, especially his first couple albums.
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NIN -First two albums & Further down the spiral remixes

Haujobb- Homes & Gardens

Skinny Puppy- Too Dark Park
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IMHO, here's a list of essential stuff (off the top of my head):

Apoptygma Berzerk - "Seven"
Apoptygma Berzerk - "Welcome To Earth"
Apoptygma Berzerk - "Harmonizer"
Assemblage 23 - "Contempt"
Assemblage 23 - "Failure"
Covenant - "United States Of Mind"
Evils Toy - "Silvertears"
Front 242 - "Back Catalogue"
Front 242 - "Official Version"
Front 242 - "Front By Front"
Front 242 - "Tyranny For You"
Frontline Assembly - "Tactical Neural Implant"
Informatik - "Nymphomatik"
KMFDM - "Adios!"
Nine Inch Nails - "Pretty Hate Machine"
Project Pitchfork - "Alpha Omega"
Project Pitchfork - "Chakra Red!"
Project Pitchfork - "Eon:Eon"
Project Pitchfork - "Daimonion"
Seabound - "No Sleep Demon"
Skinny Puppy - "Twelve Inch Anthology"
VNV Nation - "Empires"
VNV Nation - "Futureperfect"

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what is an industrial album/band?
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out of the few i have:
Skold - Skold
NIN - Pretty Hate Machine & The Downward Spiral
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park
KMFDM - NIHIL
Pain - Pain ... although Peter Tagtgren is better known for "death metal" (Hypocrisy), i always thought this album sounded more "industrial."
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Re: What were your favorite "industrial" band/albums.

What do you mean were?

Are you suggesting that industrial is a dead genre? If you are, I suggest you take a listen to Project Pitchfork. They're as good as (if not better than) any of the old school industrial bands.

For anyone who is interested in starting a love affair with industrial, I would suggest picking up Pigface albums and then doing some research on the artists involved. When the best of the best get together, magic just seems to happen.
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Dude the industrial genre has been dead since the late 80's. Just because there are still bands around doesn't mean it's a thriving scene.
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Originally posted by zak52
Dude the industrial genre has been dead since the late 80's. Just because there are still bands around doesn't mean it's a thriving scene.
Industrial has never been a thriving scene.

But that being said, if you think it's dead now, then I suggest you tell that to bands like VNV Nation, Mesh, Apoptygma Berzerk, Nine Inch Nails and Project Pitchfork.

Sh*t, I just went to the Synthpop Goes The World festival in Toronto a few weekends ago - an event of this magnitude would have been unthinkable in North America 10 years ago (let alone, ever).

Sure the genre is still "underground", but it's as strong as it's ever been (I'd say stronger). And if you're still thinking it's "dead", I suggest you make a pilgrimage to Germany (and the surrounding area) and inform them of the news.

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Industrial was a thriving seen in the 80's, and a lot bigger than it is now with labels like Wax Trax and Netwerk pumping out industrial bands. So what there's a few bands still playing industrial. There's also bands still playing punk (not bands like blink 182 either) that doesn't mean it's big. Electronic music has always been bigger in Europe than over here so that's no big deal.
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Any of the NIN remix CDs, particularly Fixed.

Skinny Puppy - VIVIsectVI and of course, The Singles Collect.

Meat Beat Manifesto - Armed Audio Warfare

KMFDM - Angst

Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey and The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste.

VNV Nation - Empires

Apoptygma Berzerk - 7

Coil - any of the Seasons EPs, Musick to Play in the Dark Volumes 1 + 2, Love's Secret Domain, Astral Disaster

Chemlab - East Side Militia

C-Tec - Cut, Darker

The Damage Manual - self-titled and the 1 EP

DJ? Acucrack - Nation State, Mutants of Sound, Sorted

Download - The Eyes of Stanley Pain, Effector

Einsturzende Neubauten - Strategies Against Architecture Volumes 1, 2, 3

Foetus - Gash, Blow, Flow

Front 242 - Geography, Front by Front, Tyranny For You

Front Line Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant

Juno Reactor - Shango, Bible of Dreams

cEvin Key - The Ghost of Each Room

Ohgr - Welt

Pig - Sinsation, Wrecked

Pig & Sow - Je M'aime

Sow - Sick

Pop Will Eat Itself - Dos Dedos Mis Amigos

Prick - self-titled

Project Pitchfork - Alpha Omega

Sister Machine Gun - Sins of the Flesh

Stabbing Westward - Wither Blister Burn + Peel

God Lives Underwater - Empty

The Tear Garden - To Be an Angel Blind the Crippled Soul Divide

Test Dept. - Tactics for Evolution

Tweaker - The Attraction to All Things Uncertain

:wumpscut: - Bunker Gate Seven
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Originally posted by zak52
Dude the industrial genre has been dead since the late 80's. Just because there are still bands around doesn't mean it's a thriving scene.
I can't really add to raithen's response on this one because he hit the nail on the head. I also see no point in further debating the state of the industrial scene because any logical argument would probably be dismissed just as raithen's arguments were dismissed.

The only thing I will add is that if you want to talk about a dead genre, I suggest starting a thread titled What were your favorite "disco" bands/albums?
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I'd have to go with

KMFDM - Naive
KMFDM - UAIOE
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KMFDM - Xtort
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Originally posted by gilbertr76

I can't really add to raithen's response on this one because he hit the nail on the head. I also see no point in further debating the state of the industrial scene because any logical argument would probably be dismissed just as raithen's arguments were dismissed.

The only thing I will add is that if you want to talk about a dead genre, I suggest starting a thread titled What were your favorite "disco" bands/albums?
What did he prove? There's still a few bands playing industrial. There was a synthpop meets the world festival. That doesn't necessarily mean industrial music. Also why do I care what's going on in Germany. I live in Maryland.
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Pigface - Fook
Ministry - The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste
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Re: Re: What were your favorite "industrial" band/albums.

I love industrial, but haven't focused too much time on getting many cds. But, from my collection I can suggest so albums that have not been mentioned:

Skinny Puppy: Too Dark... is great but the first one I picked up is Remission, the first EP. Great stuff from back in the early 80's. I don't know the track name sby heart but I think on the third one they use a fretless bass....good stuff!

KMFDM: I am really enjoying the Attak album more so then Adios. Of course all KMFDM albums are great.

Originally posted by gilbertr76
For anyone who is interested in starting a love affair with industrial, I would suggest picking up Pigface albums and then doing some research on the artists involved. When the best of the best get together, magic just seems to happen.
Fook is really good. I think Ogre is on this album.

I don't know if anyone considers NIN industrial but I have to mention it.
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the term industrial is so blurry now. i stopped listening about 5 years ago but went to an "industrial" night at a club last year and everything sounded like trance with goth vocals.

--kev
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Does this count:

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NIN... The Downward Spiral
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most of my favs have already been mentioned so i'll add: Hanzel Und Gretyl: Transmissions from Uranus
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Some of my favorites ARE:

Controlled Bleeding - Songs From the Ashes, In Penetration
Xorcist - Nomad
:Wumpscut: - Bunkergate 7
Evil's Toy - XTC Implant, Silvertears
Front Line Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant, Millennium
Skinny Puppy - Bites, Last Rights
Assemblage 23 - Failure
Alien Faktor - Desolate
Jagd Wild - Come Join the Hunt
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
Laibach - Jesus Christ Superstars
Suicide Commando - Mindstrip
VNV Nation - everything
Icon of Coil - Serenity is the Devil
Megaptera - Electronic Playground
In Slaughter Natives - Sacrosancts Bleed
Bigod 20 - Supercute
Gary Numan - Pure
Psychopomps --- 666 Nights in Hell
raison d'etre - The Empty Hollow Unfolds
The Young Gods - Only Heaven
P.A.L. - Release
Mentallo & the Fixer - Where Angels Fear to Tread
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Originally posted by zak52
What did he prove? There's still a few bands playing industrial. There was a synthpop meets the world festival. That doesn't necessarily mean industrial music. Also why do I care what's going on in Germany. I live in Maryland.
I simply proved with the synthpop festival (which contained *many* EBM acts on the bill) that such an event would never have even been considered many moons ago. The fact that it occurred here is proof that the scene is still vital around these parts. If it was "dead" as you proclaimed, there's no way in hell a 3-day festival with several bands who have *never* even set foot into North America before would have taken place.

You also mentioned Nettwerk and Wax Trax pumping out industrial albums years ago. Well, isn't that nice! Perhaps you should turn your attention to http://www.metropolis-records.com. Perhaps you've heard of them? Home to mega-bands like Apop, VNV, KMFDM and FLA. You may also want to check out http://www.adifferentdrum.com which is a synthpop/electro distro that have signed several acts who never would have broken the "scene" here years ago.

And why would you want to focus attention to Germany? Perhaps because that's the birthplace of the entire industrial music genre? Sure you may want to live in your shell in Maryland - but you may want to take note that bands like VNV Nation and Project Pitchfork have managed to crack the German Pop Charts recently. That is an amazing feat - and certainly goes a long way to prove that industrial is as strong as ever (can you remember back in the 80s bands cracking those charts??).

I'll agree with you that the Industrial "scene" is very much a niche/underground market. But since when was it ever anything more than that? Personally, I think you're out of touch with the scene - hell, judging by your Top 5 list this is more than obvious. No offense meant, but I really think you're over-estimating the old school "scene", and under-estimating the new "scene".

Then again, perhaps the industrial music of today you don't consider "true" industrial. Well, all I have to say is that music evolves and I'm glad that it does. As much as I love Front 242 (my favourite EBM act ever), I certainly wouldn't want to see a bunch of clone bands playing the same style in 2002. Ugh.

-matt

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