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Originally posted by slop101
Which do you guys like better?
Being There,
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Summerteeth?
Which do you guys like better?
Being There,
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Summerteeth?
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Originally posted by slop101
Which do you guys like better?
Being There,
or
Summerteeth?
Which do you guys like better?
Being There,
or
Summerteeth?
Yancey - You like A.M. better than Being There? That surprises me. I like A.M., but Being There is a much more ambitious album. I look at it as the disc where Jeff showed that Wilco was much more than an alt-country band.
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Originally posted by Gdrlv
Yancey - You like A.M. better than Being There? That surprises me. I like A.M., but Being There is a much more ambitious album. I look at it as the disc where Jeff showed that Wilco was much more than an alt-country band.
Yancey - You like A.M. better than Being There? That surprises me. I like A.M., but Being There is a much more ambitious album. I look at it as the disc where Jeff showed that Wilco was much more than an alt-country band.
I know that Being There is a better album, no question, but on a personal level, AM means much more. Same with March and Still Feel Gone. Still Feel Gone was one of the first CDs I ever bought, I was 14 when I got it, right around when it came out. That will always be my fave UT record, even though March is light years better.
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Good to hear, becau*e a* hard a* I tried, I ju*t couldn't get into Being There (good to know It'* not ju*t me) - Though I love *ummerteeth and YHF (never picked up A.M.).
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Well if I was going to rank them, I'd put YHF over Being There and Being There over summerteeth. But then again, "ranking" the albums isn't really a fair way of assessing 3 really great albums. Sorta like asking which is better among "let it bleed" "exile" and "sticky fingers." I'm just saying I'd recommend someone who is not familiar with there stuff to buy YHF first. But frankly, I think "anodyne" is the best thing any of em have come out with.
I would still LOVE to see a UT reunion with new stuff.
I would still LOVE to see a UT reunion with new stuff.
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Originally posted by Yancey
So my review of the record is up at Neumu.com. Check it out if you feel inclined.
So my review of the record is up at Neumu.com. Check it out if you feel inclined.
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Originally posted by Yancey
So my review of the record is up at Neumu.com. Check it out if you feel inclined.
So my review of the record is up at Neumu.com. Check it out if you feel inclined.
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Originally posted by Gdrlv
Good review. I agree with your statement that Wilco's evolution has been greatly exaggerated. From Reprise's reaction to the disc and some of the press they've been receiving, you'd have thought that they went off the experimental deep end with the disc. Actually, I think it may be more accessible to the public than Summerteeth was.
Good review. I agree with your statement that Wilco's evolution has been greatly exaggerated. From Reprise's reaction to the disc and some of the press they've been receiving, you'd have thought that they went off the experimental deep end with the disc. Actually, I think it may be more accessible to the public than Summerteeth was.
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Yeah, it was mainly Kot and DeRogatis in the Chicago papers who started this idea that YHF was Captain Beefheart and Can all over again. This is, with a few exceptions, obviously false. They are both amazing writers however.
Yeah, it was mainly Kot and DeRogatis in the Chicago papers who started this idea that YHF was Captain Beefheart and Can all over again. This is, with a few exceptions, obviously false. They are both amazing writers however.
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It's too bad you non-Chicago folks can't listen to Kot and DeRogatis Tuesday nights on Chicago's WXRT. I've been a fan of those two for years (especially Greg Kot). It does look like they're shooting for syndication by the end of the year.
It's too bad you non-Chicago folks can't listen to Kot and DeRogatis Tuesday nights on Chicago's WXRT. I've been a fan of those two for years (especially Greg Kot). It does look like they're shooting for syndication by the end of the year.
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Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
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Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
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Originally posted by Yancey
Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
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Originally posted by Gdrlv
Wow, that is surprising but well-deserved. Unfortunately, I bet it drops like a stone the week after. First week sales have to be due to strong reviews from just about everywhere and diehard fans. The band just doesn't fit in too well in the current J.Lo-Creed-Linkin Park music scene. It's a pretty nice slap in the face to Reprise though...Wilco's "uncommercial, career suicide" record is their first to go top 10.
Wow, that is surprising but well-deserved. Unfortunately, I bet it drops like a stone the week after. First week sales have to be due to strong reviews from just about everywhere and diehard fans. The band just doesn't fit in too well in the current J.Lo-Creed-Linkin Park music scene. It's a pretty nice slap in the face to Reprise though...Wilco's "uncommercial, career suicide" record is their first to go top 10.
But yeah, a huge drop off next week. Maybe 8,000 copies sold or so.
I think Warner Brothers is happy about all of the press. Wilco went from their subsidiary Reprise to their subsidiary Nonesuch. This album clearly would not have sold as well had there not been the whole scandal about the album being dropped. So they actually made out better for it in the end.
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A general question for you, Yancey, and any others:
How much does the backstory behind the album affect your perception of the album?
In the case of YHF, does the fact that a band that can consistently sell 250K-500K of each album and produces an album slightly (but not massively) more "challenging" than its last album gets dropped from a label spur critics and others who really care about music to get behind an album, aside from any issues of the quality of the album itself?
Don't get me wrong -- Wilco is one of my favorite bands, and I fully expect YHF to take its place among their other 3 albums as a great album (yes, I include A.M. as a great or at least very good album, though it's obviously different from the others). But I wonder if the critical adulation would be less had we not had the seven-month interruption.
Of course, I also think that, next to U2's ATYCLB, YHF is the album created before Sept. 11th whose listening environment is most affected (for the better) by the terrorist attacks.
Finally, can I just say that I really dig the album design and photos? I'm not from Chicago, but those are some great pictures.
How much does the backstory behind the album affect your perception of the album?
In the case of YHF, does the fact that a band that can consistently sell 250K-500K of each album and produces an album slightly (but not massively) more "challenging" than its last album gets dropped from a label spur critics and others who really care about music to get behind an album, aside from any issues of the quality of the album itself?
Don't get me wrong -- Wilco is one of my favorite bands, and I fully expect YHF to take its place among their other 3 albums as a great album (yes, I include A.M. as a great or at least very good album, though it's obviously different from the others). But I wonder if the critical adulation would be less had we not had the seven-month interruption.
Of course, I also think that, next to U2's ATYCLB, YHF is the album created before Sept. 11th whose listening environment is most affected (for the better) by the terrorist attacks.
Finally, can I just say that I really dig the album design and photos? I'm not from Chicago, but those are some great pictures.
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Originally posted by SAShepherd
A general question for you, Yancey, and any others:
How much does the backstory behind the album affect your perception of the album?
In the case of YHF, does the fact that a band that can consistently sell 250K-500K of each album and produces an album slightly (but not massively) more "challenging" than its last album gets dropped from a label spur critics and others who really care about music to get behind an album, aside from any issues of the quality of the album itself?
Don't get me wrong -- Wilco is one of my favorite bands, and I fully expect YHF to take its place among their other 3 albums as a great album (yes, I include A.M. as a great or at least very good album, though it's obviously different from the others). But I wonder if the critical adulation would be less had we not had the seven-month interruption.
Of course, I also think that, next to U2's ATYCLB, YHF is the album created before Sept. 11th whose listening environment is most affected (for the better) by the terrorist attacks.
Finally, can I just say that I really dig the album design and photos? I'm not from Chicago, but those are some great pictures.
A general question for you, Yancey, and any others:
How much does the backstory behind the album affect your perception of the album?
In the case of YHF, does the fact that a band that can consistently sell 250K-500K of each album and produces an album slightly (but not massively) more "challenging" than its last album gets dropped from a label spur critics and others who really care about music to get behind an album, aside from any issues of the quality of the album itself?
Don't get me wrong -- Wilco is one of my favorite bands, and I fully expect YHF to take its place among their other 3 albums as a great album (yes, I include A.M. as a great or at least very good album, though it's obviously different from the others). But I wonder if the critical adulation would be less had we not had the seven-month interruption.
Of course, I also think that, next to U2's ATYCLB, YHF is the album created before Sept. 11th whose listening environment is most affected (for the better) by the terrorist attacks.
Finally, can I just say that I really dig the album design and photos? I'm not from Chicago, but those are some great pictures.
But yeah, it creates an "us" against "them" mentality. It's a way for critics to say, "Hey, you guys don't listen to me, but you should!" or something like that. For me personally, it has no effect. I heard the album before it had been announced that they had been dropped and I loved it then. And in my review I made a point not to address the sordid tale, which has already taken on a myth-like status.
I think the story is both good and bad for Wilco. People who naturally distrust critics and were already wary of Wilco will now see this as a reason to hate them. They may replace Radiohead as the new critic's darlings that casual folks love to hate. But this has certainly gotten more people to hear their music, if nothing else.
I'm also pretty certain that the band is tired of talking about it. I believe I'm talking to them in the next week or two and I definitely will not ask a single question about it, unless my editor is insistent (which I fear he will be).
But I expect to see a serious backlash against Tweedy & Co. this year. You might even see a renewed interest in Jay Farrar or Jay Bennett as a result. The music-geek crowd (of which I am certainly a part) is fickle and is prone to react strangely to one of their own getting mainstream recognition. Wilco have always gotten mainstream recognition from the press and a decent-sized fanbase, but the fact that this was the second-best selling album at Tower last week is something else entirely.
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Originally posted by Yancey
Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
Some surprising news... It looks like YHF will finish in the Billboard top ten tomorrow. Right now early reports have it selling about 50,000 copies, putting it at #7 for the week. Pretty amazing, but with this much press I would hope that they sell that many.
If they look at Wilco, they will see the gains in sticking with a band and letting them grow, mature and develop a strong fan base - which will ultimately lead to a better band in the end.
Maybe they'll see the long term benefits of such acts and focus on them more, instead of just throwing everything against the wall and hoping one of them sticks and then abandoning the one's that don't - the ones that get dropped may have been the next Beatles, but we'll never know, because they never had a chance to develop as artists.
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Wilco Score! Album Debuts At #13
Wilco's former label may not have thought much of the group's fourth album, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, but the public thinks otherwise, having purchased 55,573 copies during the first week of release. The album debuts this week at #13 on the Billboard Top 200.
This is Wilco's highest chart debut (Being There charted at #73 in 1996; Summerteeth debuted at #78 in 1999) despite the fact that the album has been downloadable online, even from Wilco's official Web site, for nearly a year.
The group parted ways with Reprise Records, reportedly buying back the album for $50,000 last year after the company, a division of AOL Time Warner, rejected it. More than 30 record companies then approached the band, who ultimately signed with another AOL Time Warner label, Nonesuch, home to the Buena Vista Social Club, among others.
Wilco performed on The Late Show With David Letterman Tuesday; they wrap up their East Coast tour in Cleveland tonight. The group begins a month-long European tour on May 9. Wilco have already recorded eight new tracks, which might make their next album, singer Jeff Tweedy recently revealed in an online chat. The group has been performing several new songs live, including "Spiders" and "Private Beach in Michigan." In addition, a previously unreleased track called "The Good Part" and a live version of YHF's "I'm the Man Who Loves You" are B-sides on the UK single for "War on War," which will be released on May 13. — Yancey Strickler [Wednesday, May 1, 2002]
Wilco's former label may not have thought much of the group's fourth album, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, but the public thinks otherwise, having purchased 55,573 copies during the first week of release. The album debuts this week at #13 on the Billboard Top 200.
This is Wilco's highest chart debut (Being There charted at #73 in 1996; Summerteeth debuted at #78 in 1999) despite the fact that the album has been downloadable online, even from Wilco's official Web site, for nearly a year.
The group parted ways with Reprise Records, reportedly buying back the album for $50,000 last year after the company, a division of AOL Time Warner, rejected it. More than 30 record companies then approached the band, who ultimately signed with another AOL Time Warner label, Nonesuch, home to the Buena Vista Social Club, among others.
Wilco performed on The Late Show With David Letterman Tuesday; they wrap up their East Coast tour in Cleveland tonight. The group begins a month-long European tour on May 9. Wilco have already recorded eight new tracks, which might make their next album, singer Jeff Tweedy recently revealed in an online chat. The group has been performing several new songs live, including "Spiders" and "Private Beach in Michigan." In addition, a previously unreleased track called "The Good Part" and a live version of YHF's "I'm the Man Who Loves You" are B-sides on the UK single for "War on War," which will be released on May 13. — Yancey Strickler [Wednesday, May 1, 2002]
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Well, not quite Top 10, but a helluva good showing, especially considering their last albums never even cracked the top 50. Actually, this makes Yankee Hotel Foxtrot the first top 50 album I've purchased in a long time. Ironically, getting dropped by Reprise was the best thing commercially that ever happened to Wilco. They've gone from being a commercially underappreciated but wonderful band to being the poster child for everything that's wrong with major record labels nowadays.
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I was at Barnes & Noble this week and the store was playing "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" over the PA. I loved it! Rarely have I heard a song playing in a store and felt compelled to ask the salesperson who it was. Based on that song alone, I think I'm going to pick this CD up.