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Old 01-02-24, 12:24 PM
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

I liked the vagueness, which generated paranoid thoughts in my mind, like, jeez, maybe that Biblical apocalypse stuff is true.
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"Vague apocalypse" is an incredibly tired genre. Netflix does it the most and the worst. Just tell the audience what the fuck is going on, even if the characters don't know. All of these filmmakers took the wrong lessons from The Road.

On top of that, every character is unlikeable, the theme is some Centrist Boomer nonsense, and there's no real resolution. Plus, "we'll add a bunch of unrelated/surreal stuff to make it weeeiiird, maaaaan" and "characters stare in silence at something offscreen for a long time" are in full effect.

I'll never understand the train of thought that leads people to believe that witholding important information is good storytelling in speculative fiction.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

I did not vet this but my daughter claims there are all these Tik Tok videos of clues within this movie that point at September, 2024 being a key date -- for whatever reason. It is intresting that Obama is tied to this and the methods of the attack and resulting apocolypse are basically us collapsing on ourselves. It's the likely scenario for sure.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

At this point we can talk without spoiler tags, right? (if not I'll edit the post)

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I still don't get the leap from cutting off communications/spreading propaganda that an outside party is invading to full out military coup. Yes it is probably the most resource efficient to get a country to eat itself from within, I get that, I just don't get where the coup comes from, if anything you'd want the existing media to whip people up into a frenzy and spread misinformation that way.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

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At this point we can talk without spoiler tags, right? (if not I'll edit the post)

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I still don't get the leap from cutting off communications/spreading propaganda that an outside party is invading to full out military coup. Yes it is probably the most resource efficient to get a country to eat itself from within, I get that, I just don't get where the coup comes from, if anything you'd want the existing media to whip people up into a frenzy and spread misinformation that way.
The movie provides so little information beyond the scope of the characters' immediate situation that it's impossible to know what may or may not happen. I'd agree that things seem to escalate rather quickly, but like with the deer, the details are not really the point.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

I think the detail that misinformation/lack of information is causing us to turn on each other is the point (or one of the points), though? The source of the misinformation isn't that important.

Also assuming they didn't pay Tesla to feature their cars, I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from Elon about them basically slandering autopilot like that...
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

Originally Posted by fujishig
I think the detail that misinformation/lack of information is causing us to turn on each other is the point (or one of the points), though? The source of the misinformation isn't that important.

Also assuming they didn't pay Tesla to feature their cars, I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from Elon about them basically slandering autopilot like that...
I would be totally fine with that if there weren't a million other movies already where they withold from the audience what exactly is going on. Either give me something concrete or don't dole out ANY information. Don't be cutesy with little hints and clues that never get a resolution, just say "The world ended, don't worry too much about it. Anyway, the real theme of the movie is carrying the fire/love triumphing through adversity/humans are the real monsters". And definitely don't make the movie nearly two and a half hours long
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

I finally got around to watching this movie and loved it and the vagueness throughout; thought the ending worked perfectly, since everyone was converging to the bunker separately, and we are given a head's up through the daughter's eye how equipped and ready it was for them; didn't really need move movie to see them hug and whatnot, and share what they had seen and learned while apart.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

Originally Posted by fujishig
Also assuming they didn't pay Tesla to feature their cars, I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from Elon about them basically slandering autopilot like that...
He DID comment about it, and he was none too pleased as you already suggest.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

I liked this one. The creepy vibe was good, kinda Jordan Peele-like, and I didn’t mind that a fair amount of it was vague and went unanswered. The Tesla scene was great. When it got to the end I said “Oh, they aren’t really doing this, are they?” Then I realized not only were they going to do this, but they were going to end on it. And I was ok with it. Even though I was thinking “No, you gotta do this and that!”, I decided it was ok and none of that other stuff was going to matter anyway.
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Re: Leave the World Behind (2023, D: Esmail) S: Julia Roberts, Mahershala Ali, Ethan Hawke

Originally Posted by davidh777
I liked this one. The creepy vibe was good, kinda Jordan Peele-like, and I didn’t mind that a fair amount of it was vague and went unanswered. The Tesla scene was great. When it got to the end I said “Oh, they aren’t really doing this, are they?” Then I realized not only were they going to do this, but they were going to end on it. And I was ok with it. Even though I was thinking “No, you gotta do this and that!”, I decided it was ok and none of that other stuff was going to matter anyway.
Yeah I would think that members of this site in particular would like the ending...

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