Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Old 09-20-23, 01:24 PM
  #1  
DVD Talk God
Thread Starter
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 79,302
Received 3,732 Likes on 2,679 Posts
Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +








Step inside music's biggest scandal with Milli Vanilli, a new feature-length documentary that tells the story of Robert Pilatus and Fabrice Morvan. Rob and Fab, better known as Milli Vanilli, became the world’s most popular pop duo in 1990—but their ascension came at a devastating price that ultimately led to their infamous undoing. Hear from the real voices in Milli Vanilli, a documentary that's critically acclaimed as "captivating" and "revealing".

Stream the Milli Vanilli documentary October 24, exclusively on Paramount+

The following users liked this post:
Spiderbite (09-20-23)
Old 09-20-23, 02:13 PM
  #2  
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
 
Decker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Vegas, Baby!
Posts: 76,660
Received 6,404 Likes on 4,383 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

That looks solid. I'll watch. Such a weird story.
Old 09-20-23, 02:18 PM
  #3  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
stvn1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 7,411
Received 579 Likes on 359 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Yeah, the whole thing was weird. I am just glad we don't have music written by 40 person committees where the singer shows up and does their karaoke bit over the already recorded music nowadays.
The following users liked this post:
Dr. DVD (09-21-23)
Old 09-20-23, 02:31 PM
  #4  
DVD Talk God
Thread Starter
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 79,302
Received 3,732 Likes on 2,679 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

VH1 Behind the Music did an episode on them probably in the late 90s. But, the episode was made before Pilatus died and then they did an epilogue a year or so later.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0394380/

But, a full length story of their rise and fall should be interesting to watch.
Old 09-20-23, 02:50 PM
  #5  
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Inhumans99's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 4,905
Received 287 Likes on 238 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

I keep forgetting that they sold a ton of albums, and I seem to remember an Awards show where they were introduced and they both came from the rear of the auditorium and made their way to the stage microphones in hand singing their hit song, it was a rather exuberant performance. Now, I think folks accept that singers mostly lip synch stuff when it comes to Award show performances, but if only the audience knew how on the nose it is that they were lip synching their performance.
Old 09-20-23, 03:07 PM
  #6  
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
 
Alan Smithee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: USA
Posts: 10,490
Received 340 Likes on 259 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Anyone who lipsyncs shouldn’t even be eligible for any award. This whole thing just made me sigh, Milli Vanilli’s music was terrible even before the story came out. I later discovered producer Frank Farian’s earlier group Boney M though and they were great, maybe I have lower standards for disco. I enjoy bad music and guilty pleasures but Milli Vanilli was just blah either way. “Girl you know it’s true, ooh ooh ooh I love you-“ yeah, that’s award-worthy songwriting.
Old 09-20-23, 03:15 PM
  #7  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Spiderbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 16,353
Received 1,150 Likes on 704 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Here is a great little podcast that I love (called Bizarre Albums) that did a quick history of the entire thing plus goes over the "Real" Milli Vanilli album sequel. Only 20 minutes long but very interesting if you are a fan or interested in the story.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mx...c8b5f8846b4b27



The following users liked this post:
Toby Dramit (09-20-23)
Old 09-20-23, 03:39 PM
  #8  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 24,964
Received 281 Likes on 177 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Comments often focus on the syncing. Lip syncing is never cool with me, but in this case, it is the lesser of the offences with Milli Vanilli.

The larger issue is that it was never them in the first place.
Old 09-20-23, 05:32 PM
  #9  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 17,273
Received 876 Likes on 614 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Yeah, lip syncing wasn't really the issue and is pretty much standard today with most of these crappy pop-stars.
The issue was that they sang nothing... live or in the studio. They were total imposters.
The following users liked this post:
Daytripper (10-03-23)
Old 09-20-23, 08:41 PM
  #10  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Toby Dramit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: The Vic & Comet
Posts: 1,345
Received 346 Likes on 233 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by Spiderbite
Here is a great little podcast that I love (called Bizarre Albums) that did a quick history of the entire thing plus goes over the "Real" Milli Vanilli album sequel. Only 20 minutes long but very interesting if you are a fan or interested in the story.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mx...c8b5f8846b4b27

This was a good listen ...
The following users liked this post:
Spiderbite (09-21-23)
Old 09-20-23, 09:42 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Hero
 
PhantomStranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Phantom Zone
Posts: 27,628
Received 841 Likes on 708 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Honestly, their album was good. Or whoever actually sang it.
Old 09-20-23, 09:52 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Reviewer/Moderator
 
Kurt D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Formerly known as L. Ron zyzzle - On a cloud of Judgement
Posts: 14,631
Received 1,916 Likes on 1,277 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

I liked plenty of songs off of that album, and don't feel like they were imposters. They were great performers, and they were hired to pretend that they were the singers so that was dishonest, but the hate they got was way over the top, and I believe was why Pilatus killed himself.
Old 09-20-23, 10:21 PM
  #13  
DVD Talk Legend
 
andicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 12,921
Received 1,055 Likes on 744 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

It was pretty out of character for my musical tastes, but I did like a few songs from the album.

The weird thing was that when it came out that it wasn't actually them, I had friends tease me about it, like I gave a fuck who actually performed it. I wasn't a teenage girl (or boy, not that there's anything wrong with that) thinking they were cute. I just liked the music.

Old 09-21-23, 11:05 AM
  #14  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 23,524
Received 210 Likes on 162 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Looks interesting but doubt I will subscribe just to view it at this point. While they did not sing any actual notes on the album, there is so much auto-tune and the like done today that what makes it to a studio version of a pop album seems to have very little semblance of the performer's real voice. I hope it covers the fact that Fabrice worked to improve his voice (which really wasn't that bad, Rob left a bit to be desired though) in the following years and eventually was able to do actual singing on his own.

The following users liked this post:
Spiderbite (09-21-23)
Old 09-21-23, 12:05 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Spiderbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 16,353
Received 1,150 Likes on 704 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

^Wow. That is great. Hell, he likely sounds better now than probably the original guy who sang/rapped the "real" version if that guy tried to sing it now. He actually sounds better thank some of the current Top 40 performers if you listen to them try to sing live.

Glad to see a little redemption. The duo definitely got fucked with way too much hate.
The following users liked this post:
Dr. DVD (09-25-23)
Old 09-25-23, 01:31 PM
  #16  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 23,524
Received 210 Likes on 162 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by Spiderbite
^Wow. That is great. Hell, he likely sounds better now than probably the original guy who sang/rapped the "real" version if that guy tried to sing it now. He actually sounds better thank some of the current Top 40 performers if you listen to them try to sing live.

Glad to see a little redemption. The duo definitely got fucked with way too much hate.

Here's one where he sounds even better.
Old 09-25-23, 04:25 PM
  #17  
DVD Talk Legend
 
milo bloom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 18,348
Received 1,430 Likes on 1,044 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Comments often focus on the syncing. Lip syncing is never cool with me, but in this case, it is the lesser of the offences with Milli Vanilli.

The larger issue is that it was never them in the first place.
I've always wondered why they didn't just use the actual vocalists, but I guess they didn't have the visual pizazz that Rob and Fab did. I mean, heck, just give them tamborines and have them be back up singers for the real ones and do it that way.
Old 09-26-23, 02:33 AM
  #18  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Hazel Motes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,524
Received 404 Likes on 270 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

As I’ve gotten older whenever these guys get mentioned the more I feel bad for them. Especially for the one who took his own life.
The following users liked this post:
Sonny Corinthos (11-01-23)
Old 09-26-23, 03:28 AM
  #19  
DVD Talk Legend
 
JeffTheAlpaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 23,752
Received 754 Likes on 616 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Shouldn't this be moved to the music forum?

Oh wait....
Old 09-26-23, 09:38 AM
  #20  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Hazel Motes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,524
Received 404 Likes on 270 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
Shouldn't this be moved to the music forum?

Oh wait....
That doesn’t even work by your own logic.
Old 09-27-23, 11:47 AM
  #21  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 23,524
Received 210 Likes on 162 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Comments often focus on the syncing. Lip syncing is never cool with me, but in this case, it is the lesser of the offences with Milli Vanilli.

The larger issue is that it was never them in the first place.

For the time it occurred, you are absolutely correct. I think the sympathy many people have for them (myself included) in current times is due to the fact that even when an artist records lyrics themselves , so much vocal enhancement and engineering is added to the point to where little resemblance is there of the actual voice. The stark contrast between how they sounded for real and the voices on the album is pretty much the norm nowadays when it comes to a lot of music. Like I said before, Fabrice sounded quite similar to the voice on the record, but Rob kind of stunk it up. I hope the movie spends time on the aftermath.
Old 09-27-23, 03:31 PM
  #22  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 17,273
Received 876 Likes on 614 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
For the time it occurred, you are absolutely correct. I think the sympathy many people have for them (myself included) in current times is due to the fact that even when an artist records lyrics themselves , so much vocal enhancement and engineering is added to the point to where little resemblance is there of the actual voice.
So basically the bar has been set so low now that past musical atrocities are now acceptable.
The following users liked this post:
Alan Smithee (09-27-23)
Old 09-27-23, 04:18 PM
  #23  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Spiderbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 16,353
Received 1,150 Likes on 704 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by Coral
So basically the bar has been set so low now that past musical atrocities are now acceptable.
Have you listened to the current Pop Top 40?
The following 2 users liked this post by Spiderbite:
Dr. DVD (09-28-23), Toby Dramit (09-27-23)
Old 09-27-23, 05:02 PM
  #24  
DVD Talk Hero
 
PhantomStranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Phantom Zone
Posts: 27,628
Received 841 Likes on 708 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

The acceptance of Autotune really changed how people view singing.
The following users liked this post:
Dr. DVD (09-28-23)
Old 09-27-23, 08:17 PM
  #25  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 17,273
Received 876 Likes on 614 Posts
Re: Milli Vanilli -- Documentary movie -- October 24, 2023 on Paramount +

Originally Posted by Spiderbite
Have you listened to the current Pop Top 40?
That's the low bar I was talking about.
The following 2 users liked this post by Coral:
Alan Smithee (09-27-23), Dr. DVD (09-28-23)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.