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Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Old 07-25-23, 02:13 PM
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

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I'm not angry if the tone implies this, just confused about a toy still actively marketing impossible ideals to impressionable kids and being in my face about it.
I took it as a company like Mattel actually recognizing that one of their flagship brands is problematic. And to their credit, they have tried to address this before (changing Barbie to more realistic proportions, etc.) But as has been said, Barbie was an astronaut before women could get a credit card without a husband. That's worthy of celebration. And the movie handles both sides of the issue.

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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

The movie was sharp and hilarious. The comedy was made for a guy like me. Packaged in a Barbie movie to reach everyone. It could have just as well be rewritten as a mumblecore movie that nobody sees.

Gerwig and Baumbach are gonna have a giant line of credit after this. Curious to see what they do next. This is basically her Batman Begins.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
The movie was sharp and hilarious. The comedy was made for a guy like me. Packaged in a Barbie movie to reach everyone. It could have just as well be rewritten as a mumblecore movie that nobody sees.

Gerwig and Baumbach are gonna have a giant line of credit after this. Curious to see what they do next. This is basically her Batman Begins.
She's doing Chronicles of Narnia for Netflix next.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Harsh but fair

20 Scathing Critiques I Have of the Barbie Movie

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4. Insides felt funny whenever I saw Ryan Gosling

Warner Brothers, Mattel, and Greta Gerwig have clearly conspired with the Deep State to add elements of mind control and emotional manipulation to Barbie in an effort to brainwash the children that see it. How else to explain the inexplicable fluttery feeling in my abdomen every time the Ken character showed up on screen?

16. Has black characters

Uh, excuse me? The movie was called Barbie, right? Not Barbie and Friends, Including a Black One I Will Disproportionately Focus On!

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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

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She's doing Chronicles of Narnia for Netflix next.
Sounds great. It's been a long time. But it was disappointing that they never finished the story.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

I saw it a second time today and still loved it.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by DaveNinja
I saw it a second time today and still loved it.
After all this time?
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Enjoyed the hell out of the movie. My showing had a wide-range of people. 2 couples in their 70s/80s (right in front of me) and families with little kids (right behind me). I guess Will Ferrell was okay but I'm still not a big fan. Rest of the cast was very good. Loved that final scene.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Because of how cerebral the movie is (yea who would have thought), where do they go with a sequel?

Crazy as it sounds, Barbie is an accessible movie really packed with ideas. I think of comparisons like The Matrix, V For Vendetta, and Fight Club. Now ... Barbie.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Saw this nugget posted just now.


Just an interesting note... By the end of the day today... Barbie will have made more money in 6 days than FLASH and SHAZAM 2 did in their entire theatrical runs COMBINED.



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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
Because of how cerebral the movie is (yea who would have thought), where do they go with a sequel?

Crazy as it sounds, Barbie is an accessible movie really packed with ideas. I think of comparisons like The Matrix, V For Vendetta, and Fight Club. Now ... Barbie.
Matrix & V are Warner (not sure about FC) - that just begs for a (proper*) crossover!

*Clearly Rhea Perlman was aping the Oracle.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
Because of how cerebral the movie is (yea who would have thought), where do they go with a sequel?
Easy.

Act 1 - Picks up immediately after the first film: Barbie's in the real world, experiencing reality for the first time. Fish-out-of-water comedy moments juxtapose with searing outsider insights into just how nonsensical much of modern life is. Much pathos. Many chuckles.

Act 2 - An emissary arrives to recruit her because Ken (or all the Kens) has/have departed Barbieland for Parts Unknown and their absence is actually being felt, causing the matriarchy to soft-question not making things fully equal after the Kentriarchy takeover some weeks earlier.

Act 3 - She saves everyone.

Depending on the writers, Mattel and other factors, Act 3 can reveal where (the) Ken(s) went to be: a) part of the real world, b) OTHER or c) another Mattel toyworld, allowing for the Mattel Universe to be begun... did he stay with Polly Pocket? He-Man? UNO?*

*d) Space Jam 2 and the LEGO films have also pseudo-tied the Warner properties into a loose multiverse. Ken getting life lessons from Batmen or Dumbledore or Neo could be a (terrible) possibility. NEO & UNO, a match made in heaven.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

I mean how many movies do that though? We often get something like Winter Soldier or X-Men with themes and ideas sprinkled around. But not too many are packed full like the examples I gave.

There was so much information I need to go see it again. Itís wonderful.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Saw it and loved it. I saw Oppenheimer the weekend before and now I see how they work together as a double-feature of Barbenheimer.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

I loved how the movie looked, so refreshing to see something that isn't dark and murky, but I was left very underwhelmed. After seeing those exciting trailers, there wasn't much left in the movie that felt fresh. I was waiting for it to end about fifteen minutes before it did. Glad I saw it, mostly for how hilarious it was when after the trailer for Priscilla, the ten year old looking boy sitting next to me said, "What the fuck is that?"
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Finally saw this last night. Wow - this movie was so uneven. Some scenes were really entertaining; others fell completely flat. Things also got really annoying toward the end when America Ferrera's character was given this long, preachy speech about what all the Barbies were fighting for that really sunk my opinion of the film (hey, we GET IT...you don't need to spell it out, underline it, and add an exclamation point).

Still, the set design was fantastic, Robbie was really good, and Gosling was simply great (his musical numbers made me wish they had just made this whole thing a musical). They really misfired with Will Ferrell - none of his scenes are funny, nor is his character all that important. I guess maybe they felt they needed one more "name" in the cast?

So a mixed reaction from me and a rather "meh" feeling about the movie. I did enjoy parts of it, but I'm unlikely to sit through it again.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
... America Ferrera's character was given this long, preachy speech about what all the Barbies were fighting for that really sunk my opinion of the film (hey, we GET IT...you don't need to spell it out, underline it, and add an exclamation point).
Highlighting and underlining the Real World Message was necessary because it's rarely ever spelled out that precisely - especially on screen - but is a reality lived by many that seems nevertheless completely ignored by the country/world. Often wilfully, sometimes naively, and sometimes in this way - 'we know this - move on' - which is arguably worse: if it's known (and seen to be a problem), why does it persist? Call it out! Shine a spotlight. Stage protests. Make changes.

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They really misfired with Will Ferrell - none of his scenes are funny, nor is his character all that important. I guess maybe they felt they needed one more "name" in the cast?
The three or four main characters seemed well-cast, Alan and President Barbie were able supporting cast members, but I was underwhelmed with pretty much everyone else... I imagine many were stunts/cameos for a target audience that just passed me by, but they all seemed a little underwhelming to me.
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Seeing some of the reactions to that speech (not here) makes me think that maybe it needed to be spelled out a little more because a lot of people STILL didn't get it.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Does Tik Tok work on here? Marc Maron basically said what I said. Only better, of course.

https://www.tiktok.com/@marcdmaron/v...75264602344747

It's an accessible mainstream movie, loaded with a creative thesis on feminism.

I would like to see more movies do this.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

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Seeing some of the reactions to that speech (not here) makes me think that maybe it needed to be spelled out a little more because a lot of people STILL didn't get it.
The way Anna Greenblatt's character (and her school friends) go after Barbie's impact on females in society is SOOO much more effective because it feels real and natural. America's speech feels scripted. It has nothing to do with content, it has to do with how it's presented in the plot.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
The way Anna Greenblatt's character (and her school friends) go after Barbie's impact on females in society is SOOO much more effective because it feels real and natural. America's speech feels scripted. It has nothing to do with content, it has to do with how it's presented in the plot.
I get that. I'm just responding to the notion that it was over the top and not needed because it's hitting people over the head, though maybe the people being hit over the head and still not getting it never will anyway.
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Old 08-01-23, 01:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the people who NEED hit over the head aren't coming to see Barbie anyway.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I'm pretty sure that the people who NEED hit over the head aren't coming to see Barbie anyway.
Unless someone's "producers dragged [them] to see" it.
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Re: Barbie (2023, D: Gerwig) -- The Reviews Thread

Saw this yesterday evening.

Although a bit uneven, I enjoyed it quite a bit and absolutely loved the overall message.

John Cena's cameo was wonderful

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