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Old 08-11-23, 12:15 PM
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Warren Leight, who was the former showrunner for Law and Order SVU, said recently if the strikes get resolved soon, it's feasible for the TV side to film around 13 episodes this TV season.

I recall back in 2007 when the writers strike was resolved, they needed about 2 1/2 months to get caught up to have TV episodes ready for air. But, they were working 6-7 day weeks.

For movies, it's going to almost certainly re-adjust the 2024/2025 schedule for those still being filmed.
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Noonan
But you also said that theaters can't survive on good movies only. They can survive on only indie or high budget blockbusters?
Yep. Blockbusters specifically. I also think a lot of theaters in big cities need to close down. Iíve said before that there are three major movie theaters within 10 miles of my house. Itís too many.
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Draven
We're never going to get "just the good ones" in theaters. Good movies are incredibly hard to make. Theaters couldn't survive on those breadcrumbs.
How does one define a "good" movie? Every movie which gets the green light starts out as a good movie, with good intentions of making a profit. Lots of well-made, respectable movies don't find an audience during their theatrical runs whereas many poorly made, creatively bankrupt debacles storm to the top of the box office.

With the success of Barbie, I'm sure executives are declaring that movies based on toy franchises are the new gold key to success at the box without ever really examining what made it a success (ie. the screenplay). Instead we'll just get more poorly conceived versions of GI Joe, Transformers, Cabbage Patch Doll movie, Stretch Armstrong etc.
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Draven
Yep. Blockbusters specifically. I also think a lot of theaters in big cities need to close down. I’ve said before that there are three major movie theaters within 10 miles of my house. It’s too many.
Unfortunately the financial model dictates such a narrow variety of feasible films which can be released theatrically. There are too many theatres all with 12+ screens to fill with 5 showings per screen /7 days a week. The studios want to make their money in the first two weeks and the model of lots of theatres with lots of screens is the only way to do it.

Going back 30+ years, there were more theatres with fewer screens and movies were allowed time to develop word-of-mouth. Now, the financial stakes are so much higher for larger venues with escalating land values, higher rent, more maintenance, rising wages, more competition from streaming and the technical advancements of home entertainment in the last 20 years.

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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

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With the success of Barbie, I'm sure executives are declaring that movies based on toy franchises are the new gold key to success at the box without ever really examining what made it a success (ie. the screenplay). Instead we'll just get more poorly conceived versions of GI Joe, Transformers, Cabbage Patch Doll movie, Stretch Armstrong etc.
Slinky The Movie. Bring it on!
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Slinky The Movie. Bring it on!
Three hours of a slinky slinking down stairs. Terrence Malick could direct.
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Slinky The Movie. Bring it on!
I rolled my eyes when they announced The LEGO Movie but to my surprise they managed to do something clever and original with it.
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Old 08-11-23, 04:46 PM
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Originally Posted by orangerunner
Unfortunately the financial model dictates such a narrow variety of feasible films which can be released theatrically. There are too many theatres all with 12+ screens to fill with 5 showings per screen /7 days a week. The studios want to make their money in the first two weeks and the the model of lots of theatres with lots of screens is the only way to do it.

Going back 30+ years, there were more theatres with fewer screens and movies were allowed time to develop word-of-mouth. Now, the financial stakes are so much higher for larger theatres, paying higher rent, more maintenance, rising wages, more competition from streaming and the technical advancements of home entertainment in the last 20 years.
I remember seeing Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade in a packed theater weeks (months?) after release. Those days are gone.

I actually don't think the theatrical model is sustainable. I am glad Barbie and Oppenheimer have seen such success because those are good movies and they deserve it, but not every film is an event. And considering the increasingly boorish behavior of the general public, there are diminishing returns to seeing things in a theater.

I've mentioned many times but I drive 30 minutes to the Alamo rather than the 8 minutes it would take to get to the Marcus theater near me and happily pay a premium for both tickets and food service as I want zero talking and zero phones if I'm watching a movie. I think the pandemic accelerated the "fuck you, I've got mine" attitude we are living with and I think most theaters will ultimately close down. No one wants to keep paying for a subpar experience.
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Old 08-11-23, 06:21 PM
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

I was about to post a reminiscence about 16 theaters within walking distance of my apartment building when I was growing up and lots of releases to keep them supplied in double bills, but then I saw this was the Screen Actors Strike thread and not the Movie Theaters thread.

Never mind.


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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Remember, this is an actor's strike thread, not a Movie Theater discussion thread. You can talk about that here.

https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk...-theaters.html

I know topics tend to go off base sometimes, but let's try to keep it on topic. dex14 Can you move the movie theater chatter to the appropriate thread?
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

I was going to lament that my area needs both: theaters to close and theaters to open.

In a city of 120,000 and a metro area of close to double that, we have two AMCs. That's it. No competition. One AMC has 8 screens and one has 12 screens. They don't diversify ... they show the same mainstream stuff at both theaters. Currently there are 10 movies playing in town. The larger theater is holding on to Sound of Freedom and Indiana Jones.

One of them needs to close and we need a different operator.

Maybe less content is actually a good thing ... to bring this back around. When we aren't filling the current streams (be they theaters or streaming or broadcast) with adequate programming ...
Old 08-12-23, 10:18 AM
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Reality tv performers being taken more seriously by sag-aftra ?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...ls-1235560860/

Wonder how soon they will join the picket lines.
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

What I've learned about the strike, is that we need to force our way into closer margins for everyone involved. In every industry. If you look at your employer, and your executives and stocks (which usually reflects the businesses' value) are too disproportionate to your personal compensation, you should be upset. And you should consider leaving the business or unionizing. A corporation is rarely ever going to offer better compensation to labor, without having their hand forced. All profits should be proportionally shared with labor the same way they're shared with passive investors (stockholders).

I believe a general "consumer strike" would also gain traction. Stop creating debt. If you want something, and you don't have cash to buy it, don't buy it. I know that has been what people are supposed to do. But there is $17T in consumer debt right now, which is proof that people typically don't follow that rule. I hope everyone with zero assets and good case for bankruptcy does file. Too many people are paralyzed by hustling to keep up with living expenses and pay those debts. Thirty years goes by and you're still paying on the same credit cards or whatever, when you could have hit the reset button 29 years back, and then stayed out of the debt trap.
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Michael Rosenbaum and Tom Welling have been doing a Smallville re-watch podcast over the last year or so. They're on season 3 now. The first couple of episodes of season 3 said they were "Recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike" But, episodes have continued to drop weekly and they no longer put on that disclaimer. And Rosenbaum mentioned in the latest episode he and Welling are appearing at some Cons in September and October.

I wonder if they just said, Screw it let's keep doing this. I'm not really sure if talking about a show that ended 13 years ago falls into the not allowed guideline or if they got permission to keep doing it. Or if they just don't care anymore. The Podcast is not sponsored or supported by WB, so maybe it's allowed?
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The ďOffice LadiesĒ podcast has continued too. I donít think that was ever a mandate from the unions to stop.

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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

My understanding is that podcasts are OK as long as you're not promoting a current project.
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(Which probably means we're about to see a crap-ton more of them.)
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My understanding is that podcasts are OK as long as you're not promoting a current project.
But a lot of the publicity came from the Full House podcast stopping - hence the confusion.
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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

Also from the "It's Always Sunny" and the "Scrubs" podcasts stopping. Each of them mentioned it was their choice (not mandated).
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...73e828aa12daf1

No more interim agreements for scripts falling under the WGA even though the production is non-AMPTP
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https://deadline.com/2023/08/the-wal...al-1235533050/

AMC reached a deal with SAG-AFTRA to allow 3 shows to resume production. Daryl Dixon season 2, TWD: The Ones who Live and Interview with a Vampire season 2.

The Ones who live is in the can, but needs some ADR.
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Your video games may soon be affected

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Re: Screen Actors Strike 2023

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Your video games may soon be affected

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/...303428290?s=20
This one I wouldn't worry too much about. Games take so long to make these days, I would assume recording dialogue is probably one of the less time consuming parts. Maybe the ones who do mo-cap stuff would be affected more.
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If this results in fewer/no cutscenes in video games. Iím all for it.
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Holy shit.

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