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Old 05-22-23, 08:35 PM
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I was a huge fan as a kid and still like them, but rewatching that as an adult it really hits different.

I mean, yeah, the ghosts were infesting NY but maybe some oversight wouldn't have been a bad thing.
If you had a degree in nuclear engineering, and some disgraced ex-professor of psychology said that his unlicensed nuclear reactor was full of ghosts, would you believe him?
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Old 05-22-23, 09:18 PM
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He wanted to terraform the entire planet and kill off the existing populace so that his people could live. Yea I guess you can say that “the way he wanted to accomplish his goal” but that’s a gigantic caveat unless you’re taking the view that humans are like ants or something to Kryptonians.
That's why I said his method made him the bad guy, but his motive was to rebuild his people/culture which I could understand.
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Johnny in Karate Kid though in the original movie he still was a prick for beating the shit out of Daniel before Mr. Myagi saves him.
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Ratatouille - the short head chef was about to take Gusto's name global and create an empire using his likeness so that he would be loved and remembered by people everywhere. Instead the protagonists shut Gusto's restaurant down. Thus relegating him to being forgotten.
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Old 05-23-23, 04:36 PM
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Re: Movies where the bad guys are really the good guys?

I guess any film where POS scam artists are ripping off someone, but since the target is a "Bad Guy" it's ok?
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
Johnny in Karate Kid though in the original movie he still was a prick for beating the shit out of Daniel before Mr. Myagi saves him.
I can appreciate what Cobra Kai did in wanting to tell the story from Johnny's point of view but I hate all the lame internet jokes out there saying "Daniel was the real bad guy". It kind of takes away and lessens the impact of the original Karate Kid today.
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Old 05-24-23, 09:34 AM
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Tommy Lee Jones and his team were simply doing their job in The Fugitive. They were clearly the antagonists of the story, but not "bad guys."

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Re: Movies where the bad guys are really the good guys?

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Tommy Lee Jones and his team were simply doing their job in The Fugitive. They were clearly the antagonists of the story, but not "bad guys."
Tommy Lee Jones’ “I don’t care.” When Kimble told him he didn’t kill his wife was great because it showed that Jones and his team were just there to do a job, not play good guys vs. bad guys.
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Old 05-24-23, 07:04 PM
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Any of the Punisher films.
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Old 05-24-23, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
Man, I saw a sci-fi movie as a kid where a guy thinks a robot is trying to kill the female lead and loses his hand trying to save her, only to find out from her later that the robot was actually helping her. Never discovered the name, though.
That sounds like The Ultimate Warrior.



Well, the part where the hero loses his hand anyway.
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Re: Movies where the bad guys are really the good guys?

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Tommy Lee Jones and his team were simply doing their job in The Fugitive. They were clearly the antagonists of the story, but not "bad guys."
Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
Tommy Lee Jones’ “I don’t care.” When Kimble told him he didn’t kill his wife was great because it showed that Jones and his team were just there to do a job, not play good guys vs. bad guys.
It's pretty evident when Jones stars in the sequel tracking down another fugitive. They could have spun it off into a TV series centered around Gerard. With The Fugitive the audience knows Kimble is innocent up front. That alters the audience's viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy
That's why I said his method made him the bad guy, but his motive was to rebuild his people/culture which I could understand.
His people needed Lebensraum.

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I guess any film where POS scam artists are ripping off someone, but since the target is a "Bad Guy" it's ok?
I showed Soderbergh's Ocean's Eleven to SpiderMDG. Her response was, "Who am I supposed to root for? The thieves?"
Old 05-25-23, 09:57 AM
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Re: Movies where the bad guys are really the good guys?

Originally Posted by RocShemp
That sounds like The Ultimate Warrior.

Well, the part where the hero loses his hand anyway.
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
Now you've got me intrigued. Not sure I ever saw anything like that, but I feel I ought to have.
It definitely was like an 80s movie. I saw it on TV in the early 90s and if I recall correctly it was heavily industrial and had those blue tones of the decade (although it wasn't Terminator)
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Re: Movies where the bad guys are really the good guys?

Originally Posted by rw2516
It's pretty evident when Jones stars in the sequel tracking down another fugitive. They could have spun it off into a TV series centered around Gerard. With The Fugitive the audience knows Kimble is innocent up front. That alters the audience's viewpoint.
Never saw the sequel, but I think Gerard was always seen as a "good guy", just doing his job in finding Richard Kimble. For one, he believed Kimble's story about the one-armed man from the get go, two he immediately distrusted Frederick Sykes, and finally he wanted Kimble to turn himself in to the US Marshals, because he knew the Chicago police would probably just shoot him rather than apprehend him.

Now, you law-talkin' guys can back this up, but I remember reading a piece written by a lawyer back when the movie came out, that without a confession from Sykes, there were no grounds for overturning Kimble's conviction and he'd still be on death row even in light of the events of the film.
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Old 05-29-23, 01:34 PM
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The Others(2001)
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The ghosts scaring Nicole Kidman's family were just trying to get her to understand there were dead and she was in fact one of them. They were not Bad.

The Others were the living who moved into the home.





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