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Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023, D: Reed) -- S: Rudd, Majors -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread

Old 04-20-23, 05:27 PM
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More abuse allegations. It’s too bad when good stars go wrong. Majors
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Yes, that topic covered at length in the appropriate thread
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Seriously, why isn't Luis in this movie? I mean, I know the reason the director gave, but they seriously couldn't figures way to work him in?


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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023, D: Reed) -- S: Rudd, Majors -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread

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Seriously, why isn't Luis in this movie? I mean, I know the reason the director gave, but they seriously couldn't figures way to work him in?


He was no longer funny in the second film. You’ll have to leave this page and Google anything he said there even remotely as amusing as his most quotable lines. The character was just done.
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I give the movie credit for swinging for the fences with its ideas for the Quantum realm, and I liked Pfeiffer more or less being the lead this time around. That said, it is a bit of a sloppy movie, Kang is interesting but while he is a huge threat is portrayed in kind of a silly manner here - the during credits sequence was just bad.

It also felt nothing like Ant-man 1 or 2 and the visual effects, while creative in spots, didn't integrate all that well with the live action elements.

Luis would have been a good addition, Darren was a weak substitute. Overall though, I wasn't bored by it - but it doesn't really compel me to see more in this universe. I give it a 3 out of 5.



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Kanger Issues, LOL
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I skipped it in theaters. Gave in and bought it. Didn't feel like waiting another month or whatever for Disney+.

Like Thor 3, I loved this. The MCU is disappointing a lot of people. But I can't join in with that. Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and Black Panther were B/C rating movies. Eternals, Spiderman, Dr Strange, Thor, and this all hold up to the pre-Endgame films.

For previous Phases, you had Thor 2 and Captain Marvel as sorta duds. Iron Man 3 got a lot of hate but loved that it's basically a Shane Black movie. Everything else was pretty top notch in terms of the material (if the MCU is your thing, it's thoroughly satisfying).
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023, D: Reed) -- S: Rudd, Majors -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
I skipped it in theaters. Gave in and bought it. Didn't feel like waiting another month or whatever for Disney+.

Like Thor 3, I loved this. The MCU is disappointing a lot of people. But I can't join in with that. Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and Black Panther were B/C rating movies. Eternals, Spiderman, Dr Strange, Thor, and this all hold up to the pre-Endgame films.

For previous Phases, you had Thor 2 and Captain Marvel as sorta duds. Iron Man 3 got a lot of hate but loved that it's basically a Shane Black movie. Everything else was pretty top notch in terms of the material (if the MCU is your thing, it's thoroughly satisfying).
I agree with this all 100%. Though I loved Black Widow too(as she's my favorite Marvel character). I'm also a big fan of Iron Man 3. It's way funnier than it has a right to be (as you noted, because of Shane Black).
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023, D: Reed) -- S: Rudd, Majors -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread

When Janet was being evasive and withholding information from everyone I really wanted Hope to say "What is this? Am I back on Lost?"
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Having virtually everyone including Baskin Robbins manager in the opening and not one mention of the 3 of Scott’s friends, especially Michael Peña, who’s good in virtually everything he’s in, was stupid.

And, those gelatin controls Hank was using was beyond preposterous.
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Having virtually everyone including Baskin Robbins manager in the opening and not one mention of the 3 of Scott’s friends, especially Michael Peña, who’s good in virtually everything he’s in, was stupid.

And, those gelatin controls Hank was using was beyond preposterous.
Why? Your vestibular sense works based on fluid movement, so it seems not-so-farfetched that you could design an avionics system with similar attributes.
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Quantumania is the first MCU, expect No Way Home, I liked in a long time, but it still wasn't great. I wouldn't say they got lazy, I think they are way to cautious, even cowardly. On the movie side they just play it safe and don't evolve a little bit.
The tv shows are further developed. Not everything worked (for me), but besides Falcon and the Winter Soldier none of the shows were by the numbers.
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Quantumania is the first MCU, expect No Way Home, I liked in a long time, but it still wasn't great. I wouldn't say they got lazy, I think they are way to cautious, even cowardly. On the movie side they just play it safe and don't evolve a little bit.
The tv shows are further developed. Not everything worked (for me), but besides Falcon and the Winter Soldier none of the shows were by the numbers.
The greatest enemy in the MCU is brand management. Feige/Disney are deathly afraid of being subversive, saying anything of importance about real world issues, or even experimenting with how they're telling their stories.
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Originally Posted by Runaway
Quantumania is the first MCU, expect No Way Home, I liked in a long time, but it still wasn't great. I wouldn't say they got lazy, I think they are way to cautious, even cowardly. On the movie side they just play it safe and don't evolve a little bit.
The tv shows are further developed. Not everything worked (for me), but besides Falcon and the Winter Soldier none of the shows were by the numbers.
I mean you just have to look at the reactions to the various tv shows to see why they do it this way. Or heck look at the reaction to something like the new Marvels trailer.
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The greatest enemy in the MCU is brand management. Feige/Disney are deathly afraid of being subversive, saying anything of importance about real world issues, or even experimenting with how they're telling their stories.
Is it though? Are MCU movies really the stage to bring up real world issues? I think those that say they aren't experimenting with telling their stories have selective memory. Wandavision was very experimental and an incredibly unique way to tell a personal story. So was Loki. Werewolf by Night was another very experimental risk at telling a very different Marvel movie. SheHulk was quite different as well. There's also Moonknight and Ms. Marvel. Granted, like someone already mentioned, I think their TV shows have taken over as creative forces while the movies have largely kind of stalled in terms of creativity. But I think that's more of a product of being in the 2nd and 3rd movie of an individual character and the 5th or more appearance of the character.

IMO I think the reason the MCU is faltering a bit is because they've taken the focus of the storytelling off of the characters and on to the plot. It's long been a criticism of the MCU that each movie is just an advertisement for the next movie and I always defended the MCU because the plot was always secondary. They told a good story about great characters and their journey first and then added a few scenes and details here and there to sprinkle in a sense of a connected universe. Now I feel like the priorities have changed. It feels like the bigger movie are more focused on the plot and advancing the overall MCU story vs. telling a character story. Take Wakanda Forever, I think the movie really shined when they were dealing with the death of Tchalla and how those closest to him were dealing with it. It was a relatable story clothed in superhero coverings. It faltered when it was mainly worried about setting up the next character or plot device for the further MCU. Like any of JLD scenes or Iron Heart. To me these characters are not earning their place in the MCU. We don't know anything about them. We certainly don't feel anything for them. To use a really cliched and generic term the MCU has largely lost it's heart. At least where the big movies are concerned.
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I mean you just have to look at the reactions to the various tv shows to see why they do it this way. Or heck look at the reaction to something like the new Marvels trailer.
WandaVision and Loki were received well and so was Ms. Marvel despite some incels hate it. I just watched the first episode and it wasn't for me, but I appreciated the effort. She-Hulk was terrible, because it was supposed to be a comedy and was the only MCU project that isn't funny.
And it's not like the last movies have been received well either. Have some stakes for the characters, make it a little bit darker in tone, but stop doing movies written by chatgtp
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Is it though? Are MCU movies really the stage to bring up real world issues? I think those that say they aren't experimenting with telling their stories have selective memory. Wandavision was very experimental and an incredibly unique way to tell a personal story. So was Loki. Werewolf by Night was another very experimental risk at telling a very different Marvel movie. SheHulk was quite different as well. There's also Moonknight and Ms. Marvel. Granted, like someone already mentioned, I think their TV shows have taken over as creative forces while the movies have largely kind of stalled in terms of creativity. But I think that's more of a product of being in the 2nd and 3rd movie of an individual character and the 5th or more appearance of the character.
100% they are. There's absolutely no reason that blockbusters, even (perhaps especially) those aimed primarily at children, should not address issues like abuse of power, racism, cost of war, et cetera in a realistic manner. Marvel billed itself as "the world outside your door" and their best-regarded films DO indeed touch on these things. Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Infinity War, Civil War all start to tackle these subjects and then stop short to avoid complicated questions.
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This is now up on Disney +

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Recently watched this. The first two Ant-Man movies are among my favorite and I'm an overall huge MCU fan. These felt...bleh...mostly because over the last two hours I couldn't help but imagining the handful of "real" characters sitting around in front of a green screen. The environments felt more "fake" than "fantastical."
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Glad I watched it on D+. Looked good in Dolby Vision. Not my favorite MCU movie.
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Did they fix MODOK/Corey Stoll's face even more for this release? It seemed to look much better than I remember.
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023, D: Reed) -- S: Rudd, Majors -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread

I watched it last night with low expectations, Ant-Man and the Wasp is my least favorite movie in the MCU, and I liked it a lot more than I thought I would.

Majors was great as Kang and his scenes with Pfeiffer were the best parts of the movie.

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