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Old 10-22-22, 08:12 PM
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Hey, did it seem to anyone else that when Hawkman was first going to reveal the truth about Teth Adam to Adrianna that he was going to bring up his cycle of reincarnation until Atom Smasher accidentally interrupted him? Because it felt like his "ancient texts" comment immediately afterwards was him awkwardly avoiding revealing the truth about himself.

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Don’t think he was saying your comments were racist, but that he didn’t want comments about racists - could’ve been expressed better though
This. I’ll admit I should have worded it better. There are other words that can be used to help temper (and avoid) adverse responses.

And with that said…

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WTF?!? What the hell was racist about my post? I really take offense of you calling my comment racist when it is exactly the opposite. If you saw the early comments on social media about Hawkman's casting, you would have seen all these asshole racists saying that why should Hodge be Carter Hall when in the comics he's always been portrayed as a white man. All these racist imbeciles kept posting comments like "Here goes DC again being woke and changing characters to fill a quota". Since the movie came out, I have not seen one comment like this anywhere on social media. The racists have shut up.

You crossed the line saying that my comment was racist.
As moderators, we aim to try to keep this community calm and cordial. The reporter(s) have no problem with what you said, just how you said it. Your choice of words (and tone thereby implied) is where the warning stems from. Your latest post is further evidence of such choices.

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I see your avatar and now it make sense why your are whining so much. What to expect from people like you?

Second, gender and race is not politics, but you have made it about it in every single thing in life when the white man doesn't get his way.

Also, is not your fucking board, so I don't have to follow your imaginary rules for topic.
… I’m going to ask you to take a breath and a breather, and am going to chalk this up to an emotional outburst and not a personal attack.
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Aldis Hodge was so good that he made every fucking racist forget that Carter Hall has always been portrayed as a white guy.
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⚠️ WARNING! Let’s keep try to keep the racist comments out of these commentaries.
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WTF?!? What the hell was racist about my post? I really take offense of you calling my comment racist when it is exactly the opposite.
Mod Note: I think Goldberg meant keep the comments about racism out of here, in terms of wording.

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Is a movie discussion board and that includes casting and fan reaction to the casting.
I agree, except your comment is LITERALLY the only mention of any racist "fan reaction" against casting Aldis Hodge as Hawkman on this entire message board. It is literally from out of nowhere. All of the "fan reaction" you mention in your subsequent posts? Not mentioned before. Your comment sticking it to the racists? Not furthering discussion because there WAS no discussion.

Thing is, if you had mentioned it earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if...


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Also, is not your fucking board, so I don't have to follow your imaginary rules for topic.
...it was yet another F-bomb laden barely-a-sentence "Check out these F-head racists!" preambles to a quoted Tweet to prove your point. Pretty much like what you have here. Which is getting old. Not sure what's so hard about talking to people here without swearing every other sentence. And your quick temper to all of this has you on thin ice, as far as I'm concerned.

So no. Stop talking about racist "fan reaction" from people who didn't like his casting as if it's been something we've talked about all along here. Move on.

(I was writing this while Goldberg posted and I'm leaving it here.)
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Hey, did it seem to anyone else that when Hawk man was first going to reveal the truth about Teth Adam to Adrianna that he was going to bring up his cycle of reincarnation until Atom Smasher accidentally interrupted him? Because it felt like his "ancient texts" comment immediately afterwards was him awkwardly avoiding revealing the truth about himself.
hey, stop talking about the movie in the movie thread! 😳

I did think there might be some reference to Hawkman’s reincarnations - particularly as in some JSA comics I think he was shown as even existing in Teth-Adam’s time, although I might be wrong. Maybe we’ll see Hawkman again - I actually think he would be perfect for a tv series like Peacemaker.
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Hey, did it seem to anyone else that when Hawkman was first going to reveal the truth about Teth Adam to Adrianna that he was going to bring up his cycle of reincarnation until Atom Smasher accidentally interrupted him? Because it felt like his "ancient texts" comment immediately afterwards was him awkwardly avoiding revealing the truth about himself.
Non-comic reader here. Can you explain (behind Spoiler tags, if appropriate)?
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Non-comic reader here. Can you explain (behind Spoiler tags, if appropriate)?
Spoiler:
In the days of ancient Egypt, Prince Khufu is engaged in a feud with his rival, the Egyptian priest Hath-Set. The priest eventually captures both Khufu and his consort Chay-Ara, and kills them using a cursed dagger of Nth metal. Millennia later, in 1940, Khufu is reincarnated as American archaeologist Carter Hall, Chay-Ara as Shiera Saunders, and Hath-Set as scientist Anton Hastor. After touching the same Nth Metal dagger used to kill Khufu, Carter regains the memories of his former life and realizes Hastor is the reincarnation of his ancient foe. When Hastor kidnaps Shiera, using a magic spell to draw her to his lair, Hall uses his newly-refound memories to craft a gravity-defying belt using Nth metal and a winged costume to become Hawkman. Carter successfully rescues Shiera, Anton is killed by electrocution, and Carter and Saunders begin a romantic relationship.

Carter Hall and Shiera Saunders had a son together, named Hector Hall, who grew up to also have a superheroic identity as Silver Scarab and later adopted the mantle of Dr. Fate. Hector Hall was a member of the superhero groups Infinity Inc. and the JSA, where he served alongside his father.
You can read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkman_(Carter_Hall)
​​​​​​https://screenrant.com/hawkman-reinc...cop-explained/
https://screenrant.com/why-hawkman-r...lained-comics/

Given his new origin as reformed Deathbringer (see the second link), it gives added weight to his almost militant "heroes don't kill" stance. It's also why I hope for an extended cut. I feel it'd really hammer home to non-readers who Hawkman is and why Doctor Fate was willing to sacrifice himself for this current incarnation of Hawkman (although I feel that Adlis Hodge and Pearce Brosnan sold it effectively nonetheless).



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This. I’ll admit I should have worded it better. There are other words that can be used to help temper (and avoid) adverse responses.

And with that said…

As moderators, we aim to try to keep this community calm and cordial. The reporter(s) have no problem with what you said, just how you said it. Your choice of words (and tone thereby implied) is where the warning stems from. Your latest post is further evidence of such choices.

The warning stands.
I'm sorry, are you saying that I have to be nice to racists? The tone of my post was a reflection of yours calling me a racist, which I now understand that you poorly worded that post. Also, it doesn't make sense, or better yet, is not computing, that you are saying that the reporters of the post didn't have an issue with what I said but how I said it. These same posters subsequently were telling me to not talk about racism in this thread and to take a hike. So, yes, they did have an issue with me calling out the racists who complained about Hodge casting for Hawkman.

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… I’m going to ask you to take a breath and a breather, and am going to chalk this up to an emotional outburst and not a personal attack.
This outburst was a reaction to someone who isn't a mod telling me to take a hike. Why am I being single out and not the one who instigated the verbal exchange? This has become too common in this forum

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Mod Note: I think Goldberg meant keep the comments about racism out of here, in terms of wording.



I agree, except your comment is LITERALLY the only mention of any racist "fan reaction" against casting Aldis Hodge as Hawkman on this entire message board. It is literally from out of nowhere. All of the "fan reaction" you mention in your subsequent posts? Not mentioned before. Your comment sticking it to the racists? Not furthering discussion because there WAS no discussion.

Thing is, if you had mentioned it earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if...




...it was yet another F-bomb laden barely-a-sentence "Check out these F-head racists!" preambles to a quoted Tweet to prove your point. Pretty much like what you have here. Which is getting old. Not sure what's so hard about talking to people here without swearing every other sentence. And your quick temper to all of this has you on thin ice, as far as I'm concerned.

So no. Stop talking about racist "fan reaction" from people who didn't like his casting as if it's been something we've talked about all along here. Move on.

(I was writing this while Goldberg posted and I'm leaving it here.)
I apologize for the F bombs, but like I mentioned to Goldberg, my reaction with the further F bombs was due to being called a racist and a poster telling me to take a hike. That's a pretty normal reaction. Also, didn't know we had to be nice to racists.

Still, this irks me

I agree, except your comment is LITERALLY the only mention of any racist "fan reaction" against casting Aldis Hodge as Hawkman on this entire message board. It is literally from out of nowhere. All of the "fan reaction" you mention in your subsequent posts? Not mentioned before. Your comment sticking it to the racists? Not furthering discussion because there WAS no discussion.
This makes 0 sense. So if no one has mentioned a topic in this forum, then we can't talk about it? I see posters constantly bring race and gender into movie and TV threads like Obi-Wan, John Wick, any Star Wars film/tv show, any Marvel/DC movie/TV show in a negative manner, with stuff that comes ad verbatim from social media (go woke go broke, virtue signaling for example)and when I post something about a movie like Black Adam tuning out the racists, then I'm scolded for it? I mean, this is a good thing yet the 2 posters who complained took it as negative. Seriously, why is this forum so adamant about coddling people with shitty views?
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Back to the movie

so far it had a great Friday (a record one for the Rock). I think it can probably hit the $100M by Sunday. This should be a good positive for a company that right now is all over the place. I just hope they realize what made this film tick with the audience and don’t go rushing projects to catch up to Marvel

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WB seems to be counting on the word of mouth for box office success in the following weeks. I will probably watch it one more time in theaters as the more I think about it, the more I see how
much I enjoyed this film

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$67m opening, not too shabby for a lesser known super hero movie. In-between it's expected range of $60m - $70m.
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$67m opening, not too shabby for a lesser known super hero movie. In-between it's expected range of $60m - $70m.

Yeah. Here are some comparisons so people can have some sense of how successful it was


Only problem is how expensive this film was to make, so with the overseas tally, they are hoping to break even by the second week
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Let's see what Black Panther 2 numbers are 3 weeks. I hope black adam hits over 150m+ before then.
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Let's see what Black Panther 2 numbers are 3 weeks. I hope black adam hits over 150m+ before then.
I believe Black Panther 2 numbers are going to be the highest for a film this year and the film will
probably hit the $150M in the first week. The anticipation for that movie is an all time high due to Chadwick’s untimely passing, the full support from the black community and that the character is a pillar in the MCU.
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Mod removed the quote and a paragraph.

Back to the movie: I think anyone with half a brain at WB knows the only reason this movie did so well opening weekend was due to Johnson's presence alone; most people, myself included, didn't even know the character existed until he was announced to be involved.

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Back to the movie: I think anyone with half a brain at WB knows the only reason this movie did so well opening weekend was due to Johnson's presence alone; most people, myself included, didn't even know the character existed until he was announced to be involved.
That’s what I like about big name actors
taking these unknown superhero roles. Rock and Pierce Brosnan brought their fame and credibility to these roles, thus people like you learn about characters that were previously C and D listers like Adam and Dr Fate. Same with Viola Davis playing Amanda Waller and Idris Elba playing Bloodshot in the DCEU. This is the way Marvel has become a cinema empire and should have been the same way at WB/DC. I see Suicide Squad as the start of the new DCEU era and Black Adam as it’s first blockbuster
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I believe Black Panther 2 numbers are going to be the highest for a film this year and the film will
probably hit the $150M in the first week. The anticipation for that movie is an all time high due to Chadwick’s untimely passing, the full support from the black community and that the character is a pillar in the MCU.
Dr Strange 2 opened to $187m, Thor 4 to $144m, J. World Dominion to $145m. Top Gun has the highest gross at $716m (domestic). Just for comparisons.
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Back to the movie: I think anyone with half a brain at WB knows the only reason this movie did so well opening weekend was due to Johnson's presence alone; most people, myself included, didn't even know the character existed until he was announced to be involved.
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That’s what I like about big name actors
taking these unknown superhero roles. Rock and Pierce Brosnan brought their fame and credibility to these roles, thus people like you learn about characters that were previously C and D listers like Adam and Dr Fate. Same with Viola Davis playing Amanda Waller and Idris Elba playing Bloodshot in the DCEU. This is the way Marvel has become a cinema empire and should have been the same way at WB/DC. I see Suicide Squad as the start of the new DCEU era and Black Adam as it’s first blockbuster
I agree with these sentiments. I know I've brought up JLU twice before but it's because I feel it's the template these movies should follow. Keep the marquee characters (the core JL and villains like Darkseid) for the "event" pictures while building the world and fleshing out the overarching story through "lesser" pictures/characters. It affords the opportunity for more varied stories and genres that can coexist with the mainline DCEU and needn't even be a series of mega-budget affairs all the time. Heck, even standalone features within the DCEU should be on the table.

That's another reason I would like ZSJL to remain canon (even without Snyder's input). It introduced J'onn J'onnz (Martian Manhunter) and Ryan Choi (Atom), with the latter admittedly better integrated than the former. There were even plans for an Atom movie starring Zheng Kai, picking up where ZSJL left off but taking place in China. I'd love to see that happen.

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Dr Strange 2 opened to $187m, Thor 4 to $144m, J. World Dominion to $145m. Top Gun has the highest gross at $716m (domestic). Just for comparisons.
Forgot about Top Gun. I think BP2 may do numbers compare to Top Gun, going over every other Marvel film this year
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Mod removed the paragraph.


Back to the movie: I think anyone with half a brain at WB knows the only reason this movie did so well opening weekend was due to Johnson's presence alone; most people, myself included, didn't even know the character existed until he was announced to be involved.
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Feeling better now after having a challenging week health wise. I hope to see this next weekend.
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Feeling better now after having a challenging week health wise. I hope to see this next weekend.
Glad you're on the mend. And I hope you enjoy the flick as much as I did.
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The Justice Society really saves this movie, most of what's fun about it comes from them. On the Black Adam side, there's just so much clunky exposition and Sarah Shahi's kid just doesn't deliver the way he needs to to be that humanizing factor to Black Adam.

I wish I liked it more because at the end of the movie, you have a super powered being fighting a literal devil/demon. I should have been thinking "this is awesome" and not "geez, is this not over yet?"
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Glad you're on the mend. And I hope you enjoy the flick as much as I did.
I echo the sentiment, except I hope you enjoy it more than I did.

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