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Disney/Pixar's Elemental (2023, D: Sohn)



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Since the ’90s, Pixar has made animated films exploring questions like: What if toys had feelings? (“Toy Story”). What if cars had feelings? (“Cars”). And what if feelings had feelings? (“Inside Out”). Now, it’s time for “What if elements had feelings?”

On Monday, Pixar announced its upcoming 27th film, “Elemental,” coming on June 16, 2023. The film follows two adorable beings made of fire and water who, despite their fundamental, elemental differences, realize they have a lot of similarities.

The logline reads, “The film journeys alongside an unlikely pair, Ember and Wade, in a city where fire-, water-, land- and air-residents live together. The fiery young woman and the go-with-the-flow guy are about to discover something elemental: how much they actually have in common.”

Peter Sohn, who directed Pixar’s “The Good Dinosaur” and the “Partly Cloudy” short, will helm the new film. It will be produced by Denise Ream (“The Good Dinosaur,” “Cars 2”). The movie is also inspired by Sohn’s childhood in New York.

“My parents emigrated from Korea in the early 1970s and built a bustling grocery store in the Bronx,” he said in a statement. “We were among many families who ventured to a new land with hopes and dreams — all of us mixing into one big salad bowl of cultures, languages and beautiful little neighborhoods. That’s what led me to ‘Elemental.'”

“Our story is based on the classic elements — fire, water, land and air,” he added. “Some elements mix with each other, and some don’t. What if these elements were alive?”
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/p...al-1235268093/
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Elemental (2023, D: Sohn)

Could be cool. Wonder why they didn't announce the vocal cast. They had to have already done the voice work if it's coming out in 13 months from now.
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Played by who and who now?
Guess name recognition isnít that important to Pixar any more.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Elemental (2023, D: Sohn)

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Played by who and who now?
Guess name recognition isnít that important to Pixar any more.
Apparently they low balled the previous actors like Hader, so the bailed.


Edit: my bad, I was thinking this was the sequel to Inside Out. That was the one where they low balled the actors.
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Check out the teaser trailer and a poster for Disney and Pixar’s “Elemental,” an all-new, original feature film set in Element City, where fire-, water-, land- and air-residents live together. The story introduces Ember, a tough, quick-witted and fiery young woman, whose friendship with a fun, sappy, go-with-the-flow guy named Wade challenges her beliefs about the world they live in. Directed by Peter Sohn, produced by Denise Ream, and featuring the voices of Leah Lewis and Mamoudou Athie as Ember and Wade, respectively, “Elemental” releases on June 16, 2023.
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This Summer, meet the residents of Element City

Watch the new trailer for Disney and Pixar’s #Elemental and see the movie in 3D, only in theaters June 16!

Check out a brand-new trailer for Disney and Pixar’s “Elemental,” an all-new original feature film that transports moviegoers to an extraordinary place called Element City, where a host of elements live and work. The trailer showcases each element—air, earth, water and fire—and what sets them apart according to Ember, a quick-witted and fiery woman who’s always stayed close to home in Firetown. In “Elemental,” which opens in theaters on June 16, she finally ventures out of her comfort zone to explore this spectacular world born from the imaginations of Pixar’s filmmakers and specifically crafted for the big-screen experience. Element City is inspired by big cities around the globe and embraces theorized contributions from each elemental community—from giant pine-tree-like buildings and waterfall skyscrapers to a tornado-shaped arena called Cyclone Stadium.

Joining the previously announced voice cast including Leah Lewis and Mamoudou Athie as Ember and Wade, respectively, are Ronnie del Carmen as Ember’s soon-to-be retired dad, Bernie; Shila Ommi as Ember’s love-seeking mom, Cinder; Wendi McLendon-Covey as Wade’s stormy and Air-Ball-loving boss, Gale; Catherine O’Hara as Wade’s welcoming mom, Brook; Mason Wertheimer as Ember’s admiring earth neighbor, Clod; and Joe Pera as an overgrown city bureaucrat, Fern.

Directed by Peter Sohn, produced by Denise Ream, p.g.a., and executive produced by Pete Docter, “Elemental” features a screenplay by John Hoberg & Kat Likkel and Brenda Hsueh with story by Sohn, Hoberg & Likkel and Hsueh. The film’s original score was composed and conducted by Thomas Newman.
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Not feeling this one at all. But Pixar has only rarely disappointed me, so I'll give it a shot.
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Yeah, that looks pretty generic and kind of too similar to a low rent Inside Out or Soul.
And as I said before it's hurt by the lack of name talent.
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My granddaughter is named Ember.
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The backgrounds look fantastic but, holy shit, are those character designs bad. Theyíre like those 1960s cartoons that just add and animated mouth to static characters.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Elemental (2023, D: Sohn)

This has been having festival screenings. Some reviews: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/elemental_2023

It comes out next week.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Elemental (2023, D: Sohn)

Ouch.

I hate what's happened to Pixar. They were the leaders in storytelling for so long but it feels like they got lazy and let success go their heads. I used to collect every Pixar movie on DVD/Blu but I've gradually eased off of that and I haven't even seen many of the recent years' films.

One of the things that I'm thinking about for this one is how the concept art is so beautiful and then the actual designs are so plain. I know that's not connected to story issues, per se, but it may be part of the whole attitude they have now.
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Ouch.

I hate what's happened to Pixar. They were the leaders in storytelling for so long but it feels like they got lazy and let success go their heads. I used to collect every Pixar movie on DVD/Blu but I've gradually eased off of that and I haven't even seen many of the recent years' films.
I think it lines up with John Lasseter leaving. He had his finger in every Pixar story very early in the process. When Disney bought Pixar and made him head of Disney Animation, all of a sudden Disney animated movies went from terrible to bonafide classics again. Now that he's been gone for a few years, Disney is back to making mediocre movies along with Pixar. Pixar has lost some of their original creative talent too which didn't help.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Elemental (2023, D: Sohn)

67% isn't a terrible score. Most people seem to not understand RT correctly. It doesn't mean that's a D grade. It means 67% of the 24 reviews in so far gave it a favorable opinion. Yes, it's a far cry from the hey day of Pixar when practically all their movies were critical darlings.

And it certainly didn't help when Chapek dumped Soul, Luca and Turning Red on to Disney + I think it made people devalue Pixar movies as theatrical experiences and made some think they were throwaway streaming movies.



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It's up to 80% now that general critics are starting to review. Like Indiana Jones, this wasn't really the ideal film to start premiering at festivals.
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Just got back from a matinee. It was mostly teens and kids with their parents in the audience. I realize most of this forum is probably not the audience for this movie. And only hot IPs like DC and Marvel propel most discussions. But, I thought it was a really well done Pixar movie that tackled some mature themes. So no, this isn’t some cheesy kiddie movie even though it’s animated. It tackled Immigrants, cultures clashing and a forbidden love story. There is actually no big stars among the voice cast and I thought that worked and allowed me to focus more on the story and characters and not get distracted by what star was voicing who. The Wade and Ember love story was sweet and had some really nice moments. Again two unknowns voicing the two leads.

There was also a short prior to the movie of Carl and Dug from Up! Carl was going on his first date since the death of his wife. It was pretty funny. I guess the short was voiced by Ed Asner sometime prior to his death in 2021.

This IMO is a good movie for adults and younger children.
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So no, this isn’t some cheesy kiddie movie even though it’s animated. It tackled Immigrants, cultures clashing and a forbidden love story.
This sounds like exactly the reasons it failed to find an audience - what an incredibly unappealing animated Pixar movie. Sure, have messages and themes that flow naturally from stories... but audiences can sniff out when it's being banged over their head - no different than faith based films imo.

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This sounds like exactly the reasons it failed to find an audience - what an incredibly unappealing animated Pixar movie. Sure, have messages and themes that flow naturally from stories... but audiences can sniff out when it's being banged over their head - no different than faith based films imo.
I think audiences are getting smarter IMO. I don't think Pixar movies always have to be light and bubbly like Toy Story or Up! to be relatable to families. Also, I thought this story that dealt with the child of an Immigrant family (fire) will give some children of immigrant families good talking points with their parents about where they came from and how they fit into this culture. It also showed you can find love no matter backgrounds the people are from and in this case it was fire and water.

I'm not saying you're initial assessment of my thoughts are wrong. Entertainment is highly subjective and this type of animated story may not appeal to you. I'm just saying that we don't always have to make stories for families about a heroine/hero, a villain, a conflict and a resolution. There were no heroes or villains in this movie.

And regarding it not making bank at the office, that could be a number of reasons. Extremely stiff competition since it's summer and not enough money to go around is likely the main factor. And of course, Disney's mismanagement of the Pixar IP and devaluing it for some people. But, It's only June and this is probably the most competitive summer with lots of new movies since the pandemic died down.

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Originally Posted by Artman
This sounds like exactly the reasons it failed to find an audience - what an incredibly unappealing animated Pixar movie. Sure, have messages and themes that flow naturally from stories... but audiences can sniff out when it's being banged over their head - no different than faith based films imo.
Thatís a little reductive. I didnít get any sense that those issues played a big role in the film, so it seems unlikely that theyíre playing a significant part in the films opening week box office failure. I think itís much more likely a combination of
1) No name cast. A terrible decision, counter to just about every big budget animated film of the 21st Century.
2) Derivative animation style that looks like a low-rent Inside Out mixed with Soul
3) A trailer where absolutely none of the jokes landed. I felt like Iíve seen this film before and itís not clever enough to watch again.

It felt like there was no excitement and no buzz about this film at all.
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Carl's Date will tug at your heart. It was a great short.

I enjoyed Elemental more than most. I always like the little touches like at the playoff game when water elements do a wave they do a literal wave. Not a gut buster but Pixar cute. I am probably biased because I have a granddaughter named Ember.
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Thatís a little reductive. I didnít get any sense that those issues played a big role in the film, so it seems unlikely that theyíre playing a significant part in the films opening week box office failure. I think itís much more likely a combination of
1) No name cast. A terrible decision, counter to just about every big budget animated film of the 21st Century.
2) Derivative animation style that looks like a low-rent Inside Out mixed with Soul
3) A trailer where absolutely none of the jokes landed. I felt like Iíve seen this film before and itís not clever enough to watch again.

It felt like there was no excitement and no buzz about this film at all.
this movie apparently cost 200 million to make and it looked so generic in the trailers. absolutely no interest in watching this in the theaters
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We enjoyed it. Not sure where the "derivative" style comments come from. It looked pretty unique to me, especially for the fire people. It was kind of a 2d/3d hybrid for their facial features which was kind of neat looking. I do agree, however, that this was a tough to market film. It's a pretty small/simple "human" story that wasn't conveyed at all in the trailers that I saw.
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We enjoyed it. Not sure where the "derivative" style comments come from. It looked pretty unique to me, especially for the fire people.
I talked to a couple of MAs in my office with small children. Both were barely aware of the film, had no idea it had already come out, and both thought the movie was Inside Out 2.
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While they're not identical, they look close enough to confuse a casual movie-goer who catches a trailer or ad on TV.

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