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Old 03-14-22, 03:20 PM
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Re: The Batman (2022, D: Reeves) S: Pattinson, Kravitz, Wright, Dano - The Spoiler Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
I think what would have made the film more complete was Bruce Wayne becoming BRUCE WAYNE! Instead of a recluse, instead of a brooder, instead of all that he starts to adopt his "billionaire playboy" persona and engages with the and institutions and citizens of Gotham proactively. Realizing that he needs both Bruce and The Batman to continue his mission. In essence the movie would then have become a "Bruce Wayne" origin story, which we've never seen before.

THE BATMAN is still a fantastic movie, but this would have taken the movie to an even higher level. I'd rather have had a scene of Bruce Wayne at a press conference offering his assistance to displaced Gothamites and pledging to rebuild downtown over the shoehorned Joker reveal.
Although not explicitly shown, I did get the impression that he realized that some changes were needed to accomplish his mission. I think he finally figured out what Batman needs to be, so perhaps he will work on Bruce Wayne in the next film.
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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy
Although not explicitly shown, I did get the impression that he realized that some changes were needed to accomplish his mission. I think he finally figured out what Batman needs to be, so perhaps he will work on Bruce Wayne in the next film.


The ending is implicit about that angle. He can't just be the Batman.
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Riddler: Year One is being written by Paul Dano
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Originally Posted by New Lurker
I have not sen a single review that mentions this. So maybe I am way off base. But like the reporter that was killed for Thomas Wayne... that is clearly The Riddler's father. Right? I mean I feel like it's so obvious. But they didn't touch on it in the film. And if it was the case they should have. The Riddler became an orphan BECAUSE of Thomas Wayne. Which makes sense why this was so personal. But again unless I missed it that wasn't touched on right?? I feel like somehow he stumbled upon that knowledge and that's the spark that sent him over the edge.

Did anyone else get that sense? The reporter even looks similar to The Riddler. Enough so that it was an obvious thing to me. But I've been wrong about these things before?
I just came back from the movie, and that was my assumption as well, I thought the film heavily implied it without coming out and saying it. I'm surprised that more people aren't talking about this detail.
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The Batman has now made almost $600M worldwide and $300M in the U.S. in just 2 weeks of release

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releas...EKEND_WIDGET_1


I don't think this can reach $1B. It hits HBO Max in less than 1 month. Once it hits there, it will kill any potential repeat business.

Still a hit though.

I've already seen it twice and I'm good until it hits physical media in the summer.
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If this was released in a pre-pandemic world, this could have easily made over a billion.
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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentra
If this was released in a pre-pandemic world, this could have easily made over a billion.
Anyone know off the top of their head how much Joker made? It would have done better than that in my opinion

Edit: yeah Joker made over 1 billion.
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Anyone know off the top of their head how much Joker made? It would have done better than that in my opinion

Edit: yeah Joker made over 1 billion.
Joker is already way more profitable since the budget was low.
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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentra
Joker is already way more profitable since the budget was low.
Profit means nothing to me, since Hollywood accounting is screwed all over the place. Just trying to compare apples to different apples. With the word of mouth, Batman would clear Jokers gross (IMO).

It's not like this Batman had a crazy budget for it's genre
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Originally Posted by JayTL
It's not like this Batman had a crazy budget for it's genre
I don't know about that. WB probably spend over $200 million on The Batman.
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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentra
I don't know about that. WB probably spend over $200 million on The Batman.
So around Aquaman, much less than Aquaman 2's reported budget.

Can't really compare Joker to Batman though.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
I've already seen it twice and I'm good until it hits physical media in the summer.
My 2nd time will be this wk as well, was a little surprised it only got two wks on IMAX screens, I'm guessing this is it's last wk on Dolby.


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Originally Posted by Artman
My 2nd time will be this wk as well, was a little surprised it only got two wks on IMAX screens, I'm guessing this is it's last wk on Dolby.
I really enjoyed the movie, but I'm not sure how rewatch able it really is.

I'll get it on digital but I'm not sure how anxious I am to watch it again.

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I would see it a second time in theaters, but there so many things against me from doing so right now. Not to mention, the short release window. So I'll just wait to buy it on UHD/Blu-ray.
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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentra
If this was released in a pre-pandemic world, this could have easily made over a billion.
Yet Spider-Man NWH made over a billion IN a pandemic world. I'm not sure what your point is.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
The Batman has now made almost $600M worldwide and $300M in the U.S. in just 2 weeks of release

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releas...EKEND_WIDGET_1


I don't think this can reach $1B. It hits HBO Max in less than 1 month. Once it hits there, it will kill any potential repeat business.

Still a hit though.

I've already seen it twice and I'm good until it hits physical media in the summer.
It won't hit $1B; China has closed 40% of its theaters due to COVID. As a result it's doing good but not great business there (but then nothing could really do better).
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Yet Spider-Man NWH made over a billion IN a pandemic world. I'm not sure what your point is.
That's different. People have grown to love Tom Holland as Spider-Man and adding legacy characters into it makes it an automatic must-see in theaters. Where as The Batman, we just had Ben Affleck in the role not that long ago and people didn't know what to expect from Robert Pattinson. Especially from Twilight haters who haven't seen Robert Pattinson's smaller work. So there was a lot going up against The Batman.
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Re: The Batman (2022, D: Reeves) S: Pattinson, Kravitz, Wright, Dano - The Spoiler Reviews Thread

Here is the cut Joker scene:

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Outstanding scene! Wish they'd kept it in the film...it is long, but depending on where it was placed... could've fit right in.

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Love Pattinson in that, HATE that design. Face looks OK, but the hairdo and scarring over his entire body is way too over the top. It's just a grungier version of what they did with Leto. Still not sold on Koeghan, although there were some great line deliveries in that little scene. I think this would have worked a million times better than the scene we got.
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Good scene, but too on the nose of Clarice/Hannibal Lector dynamic. Joker looks like a combination of Man Who Laughs (the mangled gum line) and Jigsaw from the Punisher comics. I think this scene kept in would have underminded the scene between Riddler and Batman, IMO.
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I think this scene kept in would have underminded the scene between Riddler and Batman, IMO.
Yes, they were too similar.
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Not a fan of what we can see of the design, but the scene was good.

I don’t care for the scarring and the missing hair. Also why does he have bloodied hands in Arkham? Unless he was pretty recently captured or is getting in fights with inmates. I would assume he’s locked up in insolation though.

I think the portrayal is decent enough from what’s seen though. I like the idea of him being a Hannibal Lecter type character that Batman seeks out.

I can see why this was cut because of being too similar to the scene with Riddler.
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I don’t care for the scarring and the missing hair. Also why does he have bloodied hands in Arkham?
Similar thoughts, the makeup just looks too heavy, esp the mouth. I wonder if they'll take the opportunity to update it next time around - maybe he's had some surgeries, etc.


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