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Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
#151
Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
Weren't the Eternals not Marvel's X-Men substitute anyway, which makes them kind of obsolete since Disney purchased FOX?
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#153
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
They could have, but wouldn't be the problem of them not interfering be even bigger. Now they could say our job was killing the Deviants, that's finished so we are done. Now you want them to say, they killed a celestial to safe earth, but did nothing against Thanos? Makes even less sense to me.
In the end it's the same problem of most comic books and movies. Why did no one help Thor when Malekith wanted to turn the universe into eternal darkness, which sounds even worse than Thanos's plans?
In the end it's the same problem of most comic books and movies. Why did no one help Thor when Malekith wanted to turn the universe into eternal darkness, which sounds even worse than Thanos's plans?
#154
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
The Celestials were introduced prior to Infinity War in the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.
For whatever reason, all of the cosmic beings of the MCU (Celestials, and Galactus, Eternity, Living Tribunal, In-Betweener, Beyonder, and whoever else they introduce in upcoming projects) were content to sit that one out.
For whatever reason, all of the cosmic beings of the MCU (Celestials, and Galactus, Eternity, Living Tribunal, In-Betweener, Beyonder, and whoever else they introduce in upcoming projects) were content to sit that one out.
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#155
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
But yeah, I'm perfectly willing to use comic book/noprize logic to explain their absence if we get cosmic Marvel, mutants, and the FF.
I mean if you really think about it, half the Eternals and presumably half the Celestials even would've been affected, right? Logically they wouldn't sit on their hands for that.
#156
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
? A different earth than the MCU? Because they certainly reference the Avengers, Thanos, etc. and say flat out that it happened but they were forbidden from acting on anything.
But yeah, I'm perfectly willing to use comic book/noprize logic to explain their absence if we get cosmic Marvel, mutants, and the FF.
I mean if you really think about it, half the Eternals and presumably half the Celestials even would've been affected, right? Logically they wouldn't sit on their hands for that.
But yeah, I'm perfectly willing to use comic book/noprize logic to explain their absence if we get cosmic Marvel, mutants, and the FF.
I mean if you really think about it, half the Eternals and presumably half the Celestials even would've been affected, right? Logically they wouldn't sit on their hands for that.
#157
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
In the comics, the Celestials got their butts kicked by Thanos too (he was very OP). I'm perfectly fine with the explanation that they didn't interfere. It's like the idea of God allowing bad things to happen even though he has the power to stop it. Worked for me anyway. And we're constantly going to be dealing with this issue as new characters are introduced. The best thing they could do is have groups like the Fantastic Four form AFTER the Blip.
#158
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
In the comics, the Celestials got their butts kicked by Thanos too (he was very OP). I'm perfectly fine with the explanation that they didn't interfere. It's like the idea of God allowing bad things to happen even though he has the power to stop it. Worked for me anyway. And we're constantly going to be dealing with this issue as new characters are introduced. The best thing they could do is have groups like the Fantastic Four form AFTER the Blip.
#159
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
In the films, Thanos acquires all of the stones over the course of only a day or too, so cosmic beings simply may not have been aware or thought that it was a serious issue ("oh, here's another mortal trying to use a couple stones, yawn") until it was too late. They may also not have "cosmic awareness" like the comics.
#160
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
In the comics, the Celestials got their butts kicked by Thanos too (he was very OP). I'm perfectly fine with the explanation that they didn't interfere. It's like the idea of God allowing bad things to happen even though he has the power to stop it. Worked for me anyway. And we're constantly going to be dealing with this issue as new characters are introduced. The best thing they could do is have groups like the Fantastic Four form AFTER the Blip.
#161
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
FF is pretty easy to explain: trapped in another dimension, whatever. I'm fine with them having been around earlier but not really out in the public/missing. Mutants are a bigger issue, I think. But again, I'm also fine with noprizing an explanation just to get us past that.
#162
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
True. You could also say they were underground/in hiding, maybe due to the Sokovia accords, but a sudden proliferation of them would certainly play into the angle of why they're persecuted and not, say, the FF or Avengers.
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#163
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
I guess while I'm picking nits, the other thought I had (long after I saw the movie) was that Arishem and the like somehow told the Eternals to guide humanity but explicitly prevent the Deviants from interfering, presumably because the Deviants are either too dangerous or they feel some responsibility for creating them and unleashing them or something.
Then you have the epilogue and there's the connection that Thanos is (most likely) an Eternal as well. Incredibly dangerous AND their responsibility and nope, just sit back this time and enjoy the ride.
Then you have the epilogue and there's the connection that Thanos is (most likely) an Eternal as well. Incredibly dangerous AND their responsibility and nope, just sit back this time and enjoy the ride.
#164
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
I guess while I'm picking nits, the other thought I had (long after I saw the movie) was that Arishem and the like somehow told the Eternals to guide humanity but explicitly prevent the Deviants from interfering, presumably because the Deviants are either too dangerous or they feel some responsibility for creating them and unleashing them or something.
Then you have the epilogue and there's the connection that Thanos is (most likely) an Eternal as well. Incredibly dangerous AND their responsibility and nope, just sit back this time and enjoy the ride.
Then you have the epilogue and there's the connection that Thanos is (most likely) an Eternal as well. Incredibly dangerous AND their responsibility and nope, just sit back this time and enjoy the ride.
#165
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
I could've sworn Starfox/Eros said he was an Eternal in that epilogue, though you're right that that doesn't necessarily mean Thanos is an Eternal, it just implies it. I could be wrong though.
#166
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
How can they be genetic brothers, when one has purple skin and built like the Hulk?
#167
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#168
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#169
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
#170
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
I thought he said something like they were overpopulated, he offered his non partisan culling techniques, they refused, and the planet croaked anyway? Did he say that he was the only survivor?
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
i think all i heard him say when he showed the planet using one of the stones was that it was a once thriving civilization and that he had the plan to fix it, the overpopulation and they refused, it died, but didn't hear he was sole survivor.
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IBJoel (01-20-22)
#172
Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
As a hardcore MCU fan, it's a shame to say that this thing is a total travesty on rewatch. The number of plotlines make the storytelling feel super disjointed, it feels like a rough cut just with polished VFX. These are good actors, but they can't do anything except spout nonsensical exposition for 2.5 hours. This movie offers next to nothing outside some really neat visuals, I originally enjoyed it to an extent due to the nice visuals, but there's NOTHING else here. It's my least favorite MCU movie by far. It isn't the worst big budget movie I saw last year (Matrix 4), but they run a close race. I can hardly discuss this on Blu-ray forum because the movie has a defender that will aggressively shield it from any criticism.
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#173
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
Lol one forum wasn't enough, you had to branch out and run it down here too?
#174
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Re: Eternals (2021, D: Zhao) -- S: Chan, Madden, Hayek, Jolie -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread
Hmm, well I did enjoy Matrix 4. Maybe I should give this one a shot.
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