Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
10-05-22, 05:53 PM
#351
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^ You’d think that same high priced lawyer would have also advised him not to do those interviews in the first place and to just keep his mouth shut.
10-05-22, 06:30 PM
#352
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10-24-22, 08:34 AM
#353
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Well, this is awkward. "One year ago today... I shot this woman to death."
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GoldenJCJ (10-24-22)
10-24-22, 10:26 AM
#355
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Where does the film go on that camera?
10-24-22, 10:34 AM
#356
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When you clearly don't listen to your publicist, Exhibit A :
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10-24-22, 01:54 PM
#358
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He kills a woman, and then posts about it a year later with some sort of cryptic message? Guys is an absolute moron that doesn't know when to shut the hell up. A lot like Baldwins closest buddy in that way.
10-24-22, 02:27 PM
#359
DVD Talk Legend
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Wow, this is real? I thought he was hacked. Baldwin's gonna Baldwin.
10-24-22, 02:36 PM
#360
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If he had not been involved in the circumstances of her death, then the IG post (and its intended message) is not cryptic at all.
However, in this situation, to simply post a commemoration is so out of touch with reality. As if anyone could be asked to remember this woman and her tragic passing without instantly also recalling who was holding the gun.
Maybe people who know Baldwin, personally, know how remorseful he is, but this IG post for public consumption is wrongheaded.
11-14-22, 10:23 AM
#361
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/us/al...uit/index.html
Actor Alec Baldwin on Friday filed a lawsuit in California against several individuals associated with the “Rust” film, according to a cross-complaint obtained by CNN.
Baldwin, who is listed as a defendant in a lawsuit by a “Rust” script supervisor, filed the cross-complaint against the production’s armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed, assistant director David Halls, armorer assistant Seth Kenney, the prop weapon and ammunition supply store company Kenney owns, and prop master Sarah Zachry.
“This tragedy happened because live bullets were delivered to the set and loaded into the gun, Gutierrez Reed failed to check the bullets or the gun carefully, Halls failed to check the gun carefully and yet announced the gun was safe before handing it to Baldwin, and Zachry failed to disclose that Gutierrez Reed had been acting recklessly off set and was a safety risk to those around her,” the complaint alleges, adding Baldwin was unaware of those facts, but the cross-defendants knew” the lawsuit claims.
Actor Alec Baldwin on Friday filed a lawsuit in California against several individuals associated with the “Rust” film, according to a cross-complaint obtained by CNN.
Baldwin, who is listed as a defendant in a lawsuit by a “Rust” script supervisor, filed the cross-complaint against the production’s armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed, assistant director David Halls, armorer assistant Seth Kenney, the prop weapon and ammunition supply store company Kenney owns, and prop master Sarah Zachry.
“This tragedy happened because live bullets were delivered to the set and loaded into the gun, Gutierrez Reed failed to check the bullets or the gun carefully, Halls failed to check the gun carefully and yet announced the gun was safe before handing it to Baldwin, and Zachry failed to disclose that Gutierrez Reed had been acting recklessly off set and was a safety risk to those around her,” the complaint alleges, adding Baldwin was unaware of those facts, but the cross-defendants knew” the lawsuit claims.
01-19-23, 10:09 AM
#362
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BREAKING NEWS
Baldwin charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter. ABC legal analyst says the prosecutors are "throwing the book" at Baldwin by seeking maximum penalties possible.
If Baldwin wants to stay out of prison, he has the "legal fight of his life" on his hands.
My two cents: He better shut the fuck up in public.
Baldwin charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter. ABC legal analyst says the prosecutors are "throwing the book" at Baldwin by seeking maximum penalties possible.
If Baldwin wants to stay out of prison, he has the "legal fight of his life" on his hands.
My two cents: He better shut the fuck up in public.
01-19-23, 10:11 AM
#363
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Per TMZ:
Alec Baldwin will be prosecuted for the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on his "Rust" movie set.
Prosecutors in Santa Fe County, NM made the announcement Thursday morning that Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter. The film's head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was also charged with involuntary manslaughter. Both face a maximum of 5 years in prison if convicted.
The Assistant Director, Dave Halls, has agreed to a plea deal for the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon. He will get a suspended sentence and 6 months probation.
Interestingly ... no charges will be filed in connection with the non-fatal shooting of director Joel Souza, who was hit in the shoulder by the same bullet that killed Halyna.
Alec has all along denied any wrongdoing, insisting all he did was follow instructions during a rehearsal where he was practicing how to position the pistol for a "cross draw" scene in a chapel ... as director Joel Souza and Halyna figured out camera angles.
He's also repeatedly said assistant director Dave Halls handed him the prop firearm and said it was a "cold" gun -- meaning it was unloaded and safe -- when he handed it to him.
While the film's lead armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was not in the chapel, Alec has suggested she bears some responsibility ... as it was her job to prepare and check the props.
Alec was visibly torn up on set immediately after Halyna was shot. However, in subsequent interviews he went on the defensive, saying it was a tragic accident for which he bore no responsibility. He also insisted he did NOT actually pull the trigger on that fateful day.
The FBI disagreed with Alec's assertion ... after testing the weapon, it issued a report which concluded the pistol would not fire without someone pulling the trigger.
Halyna's death was eventually ruled to be accidental -- the medical examiner found no intent to cause harm in their official report.
Still, Halyna's family filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Alec and others involved in the production, saying he directly caused her death and that he was negligent in his handling of the gun -- not to mention safety protocols on the set.
They ultimately settled the lawsuit in October, and agreed to complete filming "Rust" and add Halyna's widower as an executive producer.
Alec also sued four crew members -- Gutierrez-Reed, Halls, Sarah Zachry and Seth Kenney - claiming they failed to safeguard the film set.
Prosecutors in Santa Fe County, NM made the announcement Thursday morning that Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter. The film's head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was also charged with involuntary manslaughter. Both face a maximum of 5 years in prison if convicted.
The Assistant Director, Dave Halls, has agreed to a plea deal for the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon. He will get a suspended sentence and 6 months probation.
Interestingly ... no charges will be filed in connection with the non-fatal shooting of director Joel Souza, who was hit in the shoulder by the same bullet that killed Halyna.
Alec has all along denied any wrongdoing, insisting all he did was follow instructions during a rehearsal where he was practicing how to position the pistol for a "cross draw" scene in a chapel ... as director Joel Souza and Halyna figured out camera angles.
He's also repeatedly said assistant director Dave Halls handed him the prop firearm and said it was a "cold" gun -- meaning it was unloaded and safe -- when he handed it to him.
While the film's lead armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was not in the chapel, Alec has suggested she bears some responsibility ... as it was her job to prepare and check the props.
Alec was visibly torn up on set immediately after Halyna was shot. However, in subsequent interviews he went on the defensive, saying it was a tragic accident for which he bore no responsibility. He also insisted he did NOT actually pull the trigger on that fateful day.
The FBI disagreed with Alec's assertion ... after testing the weapon, it issued a report which concluded the pistol would not fire without someone pulling the trigger.
Halyna's death was eventually ruled to be accidental -- the medical examiner found no intent to cause harm in their official report.
Still, Halyna's family filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Alec and others involved in the production, saying he directly caused her death and that he was negligent in his handling of the gun -- not to mention safety protocols on the set.
They ultimately settled the lawsuit in October, and agreed to complete filming "Rust" and add Halyna's widower as an executive producer.
Alec also sued four crew members -- Gutierrez-Reed, Halls, Sarah Zachry and Seth Kenney - claiming they failed to safeguard the film set.
01-19-23, 10:13 AM
#364
DVD Talk Legend
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If he is convicted, why would any actor agree to use a gun on set ever again?
01-19-23, 10:33 AM
#365
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Surprising, I would wager it's based on him being a producer and therefore bearing some responsibility for the set. The film was probably only greenlit because he's in it, so the producer title may not have had any day to day involvement in the production itself - which I'm sure they'll make the case for.
01-19-23, 10:43 AM
#366
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Surprising, I would wager it's based on him being a producer and therefore bearing some responsibility for the set. The film was probably only greenlit because he's in it, so the producer title may not have had any day to day involvement in the production itself - which I'm sure they'll make the case for.
01-19-23, 10:44 AM
#367
DVD Talk Hero
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This sets a bad precedent for film and tv production.
Would they charge an actor with murder if any piece of equipment, not just a firearm, malfunctions or isn't properly used? If, say an actor kills a stuntman because someone (not the actor) didn't properly fasten a safety harness? Or the brakes on a car they're driving fail during a shoot?
01-19-23, 10:48 AM
#368
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It sucks for Baldwin but I have a hard time seeing him convicted. I guess if you’re the one holding the gun when someone gets shot, you’re going to be charged no matter what.
01-19-23, 10:48 AM
#369
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01-19-23, 10:57 AM
#370
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Alec Baldwin's attorney, Luke Nikas, released a statement saying, "This decision distorts Halyna Hutchins’ tragic death and represents a terrible miscarriage of justice. Mr. Baldwin had no reason to believe there was a live bullet in the gun – or anywhere on the movie set. He relied on the professionals with whom he worked, who assured him the gun did not have live rounds. We will fight these charges, and we will win."
01-19-23, 10:58 AM
#371
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It's a garbage criminal case. Feels politically motivated.
No way this would be a criminal case for the actor if the shooting happened in California or New York, where films are shot routinely.
He was given a prop gun on set where a handler has the specific job of making sure it's "cold" and unloaded.
Involuntary Manslaughter is like hitting someone with your car. This isn't that.
No way this would be a criminal case for the actor if the shooting happened in California or New York, where films are shot routinely.
He was given a prop gun on set where a handler has the specific job of making sure it's "cold" and unloaded.
Involuntary Manslaughter is like hitting someone with your car. This isn't that.
01-19-23, 11:24 AM
#372
DVD Talk Ruler
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Yeah I don't like Alec Baldwin but I can't fault him for this. But he seems to like to take cheap shots at people from his ivory tower all the time so hopefully this will being him down to Earth a little.
My favorite Twitter comment I heard this morning was someone saying that he's not getting justice because this case should be tried in the USA instead of New Mexico.
My favorite Twitter comment I heard this morning was someone saying that he's not getting justice because this case should be tried in the USA instead of New Mexico.
01-19-23, 11:29 AM
#373
DVD Talk Hero
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It does, but the executive branch of NM is controlled by democrats (Gov, Lt Gov, AG) and the DA who filed the charges was also a democrat.
Curious that they don't seem interested in going after whoever loaded the fucking live round in the gun in the first place.
Curious that they don't seem interested in going after whoever loaded the fucking live round in the gun in the first place.
01-19-23, 11:40 AM
#374
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Has the Screen Actors Guild released a firm statement on this yet? This really feels like a time when the union needs to rally behind Baldwin and support him.
I am fine with hitting him with a massive lawsuit for civil liability. But there is just no way this should be pursued as a criminal act. I am actually stunned it's made it this far.
I am fine with hitting him with a massive lawsuit for civil liability. But there is just no way this should be pursued as a criminal act. I am actually stunned it's made it this far.
01-19-23, 11:47 AM
#375
DVD Talk Legend
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That could work for movie stars on sets where they're only holding a gun one or two times but what about all the cop shows on TV with minor one-off characters using weapons? Is every actor involved in a shootout on a weekly episode of SWAT going to inspect the weapons they use on film?