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Runaway 03-14-22 02:28 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by orangerunner (Post 14074187)
I think it also helps the performer react to the sound and kick-back of firing blanks.

There should be a profession where people could just pretend something being real.

orangerunner 03-14-22 05:30 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by Runaway (Post 14074198)
There should be a profession where people could just pretend something being real.

Good suggestion but I think we already have enough politicians. -wink-

jjcool 03-15-22 03:44 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14072954)
Because you're an actor on a movie set and checking to make certain the gun isn't loaded is someone else's job.

Should Baldwin go the extra step and make sure the cinematographer is using the correct lens? Should he be making sure the lighting fixtures are secure? Making sure the craft table is stocked?

Having the wrong lens on the camera is going to potentially kill someone.


Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14072954)
Also, Baldwin has been acting for 40 years. He's made a hundred movies. At what point do you just trust that the people around you are doing their jobs, so that you can concentrate on your job?
Baldwin has made MANY movies in which he has held a gun.

I guess it makes no sense for someone to be proficient with the tools that they use in their craft, and to know how to handle them safely.


Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14072954)
Do you think he ever once wondered if the gun he was holding was somehow loaded?

I bet he will moving forward.

jjcool 03-15-22 03:48 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 14073579)
I don’t even know why it’s necessary to have live guns and ammunition on sets of movies in the first place. You can get imitation guns that look close enough to the real things, and gunfire effects/sounds can be added in during post production later on.

It's not necessary. The excuse I have read is that a computer generated shot does not "look real enough". If everyone on set can't be bothered to handle them safely, there is no reason to have them on set. This tragedy could have been prevented by so many people if just one of them had bothered to actually safety check the gun.

TomOpus 03-30-22 10:41 AM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
I pause in posting this but it showed up on Facebook (posted by an ex-Otter).

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...872fa9f356.jpg

Kurt D 03-30-22 10:43 AM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
oof

TomOpus 03-30-22 12:06 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14082287)
still doesn't make up for killing someone.

whoooosh!

Jaymole 03-30-22 12:06 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14082287)
still doesn't make up for killing someone.

What is it with this forum today, so many dumb posts.

OldBoy 03-30-22 12:15 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 14082295)
What is it with this forum today, so many dumb posts.

i retracted, but why was it dumb?

Runaway 03-30-22 12:31 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14082306)
i retracted, but why was it dumb?

Explainig a joke is even worse than not getting it.

I thought it was funny.

d2cheer 03-30-22 12:49 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
I also bet he is glad the Oscars were Sunday...


I fact I thought that would be why this thread was bumped.

TomOpus 04-21-22 02:27 AM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
'Rust' movie receives maximum fine for gun safety failures in Alec Baldwin shooting



A report released by the state Occupational Health and Safety Bureau blasted "Rust" producers for "plain indifference" and noted they "willfully violated" known industry safety protocols in imposing a nearly $137,000 fine for firearms safety failures.

Rob V 04-21-22 06:53 AM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
Wow, $137k.... that's probably equal to the monthly food budget on set. I would suggest the gun safety enforcers revisit their rulebooks and add a line at the top that says "discharge of firearm that kills someone ------ $1,000,000,000,000.47"

ddrknghtrtns 04-21-22 07:02 AM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 14092614)
Wow, $137k.... that's probably equal to the monthly food budget on set. I would suggest the gun safety enforcers revisit their rulebooks and add a line at the top that says "discharge of firearm that kills someone ------ $1,000,000,000,000.47"

The Occupational Safety report and fine just made it easier for the family suing Baldwin.

Nick Danger 04-21-22 08:44 AM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
That report is pretty damning of the production management. Baldwin doesn't enter into it at all. But his name is on the marquee, so he's the one who's being sued.


d2cheer 04-21-22 06:46 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
And should be.


Goldberg74 05-03-22 12:25 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
I saw an ad on Instagram for the VUDU “Jack Ryan” 5-movie collection… It’s funny how they separate Alec Baldwin from Sean Connery and make Connery’s face large and basically show the top part of Baldwin’s head at the very bottom.

They really are trying to distance themselves, aren’t they?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...ebba1c46f.jpeg

TomOpus 05-03-22 01:19 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
Don't know if you're serious.

Goldberg74 05-03-22 03:11 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 14098374)
Don't know if you're serious.

Tongue in cheek... just an interesting observation.

TomOpus 05-03-22 03:51 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
I had to whip out my 4k boxset. Lol

Sonic 05-03-22 04:15 PM

Re: Alec Baldwin accidentally kills DP with prop gun, director shot as well
 
-Accidental shootings: Probation.
-Accidental deaths: 1yr behind bars

They should change the law. :thumbsup:


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