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The Suicide Squad (2021, W/D: James Gunn) -- S: Robbie, Elba, Cena, Davis -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread

Old 08-07-21, 04:36 PM
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Just got back from seeing this in the theater. This is much, much better than the first/other Suicide Squad. I’d say this is my second favorite DCEU movie behind Shazam and the rest aren’t even close.
I thought Davis was great as Waller. Great job of toeing the line for the greater good.
Elba was way the fuck better than Will Smith.
I liked PDM and Ratcatcher 2. I was glad to Taika play her father straight. Also seeing PDM’s mom everywhere was great.
King Shark basically played Groot which is what I figured, but I still enjoyed it.
My prediction (as well as pretty much everyone else’s) that the “first” team would be wiped out came true. The chopper scene was good. I wish I could have heard the dialogue better.
I caught Uncle Lloyd, but did anyone spot Greg Henry? He’s been in all of James’ films. It’d be a shame if he wasn’t in this.

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GOG 2
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Originally Posted by The Antipodean
Well, this is a bummer, apparently itís turning out to be a massive bomb:

https://deadline.com/2021/08/the-sui...ax-1234810359/
Maybe itís not a good idea to put this shit on HBOmax. Go figure. So fucking stupid.
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I do worry what the ďsuitsĒ are going to make of all this, Iíd hate to start seeing stuff goi g streaming only out of some misguided reaction. I saw Godzilla V Kong and Black Widow and this in theatres (admittedly easier in my part of the world) and itís just not the same watching these in your living room.
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Originally Posted by The Antipodean
Well, this is a bummer, apparently itís turning out to be a massive bomb:

https://deadline.com/2021/08/the-sui...ax-1234810359/
Too many factors to list but it does seem like being an R rated movie right now limits the audience when it's available on streaming. Especially with a rather large new wave of Vid going around.

I'm curious what the HBO Max numbers were.
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I highly doubt having it in HBO Max is the reason this failed.

Another valid point that Deadline article points out is, is this movie a sequel? A reboot? I doubt there was enough of an audience to care. I donít know what it was supposed to be compared to the first one.
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The first one also had a soundtrack they wanted to sell you. This one has a playlist programmed by James Gunn. The first one also had that awesome Bohemian Rhapsody mix trailer for the marketing. Also, there's no major star leading this one. The first one had Will Smith.
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Also, you know, there is a fucking pandemic. Like why risk going to a movie when I get it for free on a service i already subscribe to. I am not itching to get back to movie theaters TBH.
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Originally Posted by The Antipodean
Well, this is a bummer, apparently itís turning out to be a massive bomb:

https://deadline.com/2021/08/the-sui...ax-1234810359/

We are in the middle of a pandemic with a huge surge of cases and with many theaters opening for limited hours. No film from March 2020 forth is going to be successful at the box office. Even less one that is rated R that can be seen at home on HBOMAX.
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Also, you know, there is a fucking pandemic. Like why risk going to a movie when I get it for free on a service i already subscribe to. I am not itching to get back to movie theaters TBH.
This. Saves me the cost of a ticket and I can pause at any times to refill my drink or go to the bathroom. For me, and probably mentioned this before, but even pre-pandemic I wasn't going to the theaters very much, last one was Spider-Man: Far From Home.
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And don't get me wrong. I want to support people like Gunn. But if they are gonna give me the product for free with a service I already have, ummm thanks! This probably would have been one of the few movies that have come out that I would paid to see at home like Disney Premiere access. But they didn't do it that way.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
And don't get me wrong. I want to support people like Gunn. But if they are gonna give me the product for free with a service I already have, ummm thanks! This probably would have been one of the few movies that have come out that I would paid to see at home like Disney Premiere access. But they didn't do it that way.
One of the biggest blunders AT&T/Warner did. But I've taken advantage of it, especially with movies I certainly would not have paid for to see in theaters even without COVID like Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Conjuring 3 and The Little Things.

Anyway, back on topic, given it'll be available for another month, will probably give it another watch.
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One of the biggest blunders AT&T/Warner did. But I've taken advantage of it, especially with movies I certainly would not have paid for to see in theaters even without COVID like Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Conjuring 3 and The Little Things.

Anyway, back on topic, given it'll be available for another month, will probably give it another watch.
Is it a blunder though? It seems that the whole HBOMAX thing is another metric that they are using to raise the value of AT&T/WB/Discovery/WHOEVEROWNSTHISTHINGNOW stocks, and so far it has worked due to the increase in subscribers.
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And don't get me wrong. I want to support people like Gunn. But if they are gonna give me the product for free with a service I already have, ummm thanks! This probably would have been one of the few movies that have come out that I would paid to see at home like Disney Premiere access. But they didn't do it that way.
This is exactly my point.
If someone vaccinated or not or living in a hotspot and they donít feel comfortable going to a theater, thatís totally fine. I can understand that, but the studios need to realize that everyone needs to make money during this pandemic. If there was at the very least a 30 (preferably a 45-60) day theatrical window prior to hbomax, I think most of these movies and the theaters would have made more money.
Itís obvious the majority of people if given the option would watch this movie for ďfreeĒ at home rather then putting on pants and going to the theater.
I donít blame anyone for that. Driving in the car, dealing with slack jawed yokels, paying for overpriced snacks, etc. That is the experience though. Seeing a movie on a giant screen can change the viewing experience drastically.
Iím not faulting anyone for staying at home and watching this or anything else. Iím faulting the studios for offering it.
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Is it a blunder though? It seems that the whole HBOMAX thing is another metric that they are using to raise the value of AT&T/WB/Discovery/WHOEVEROWNSTHISTHINGNOW stocks, and so far it has worked due to the increase in subscribers.
Yep. And with the ongoing pandemic, the premieres may last until sometime into 2022.
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This. Saves me the cost of a ticket and I can pause at any times to refill my drink or go to the bathroom. For me, and probably mentioned this before, but even pre-pandemic I wasn't going to the theaters very much, last one was Spider-Man: Far From Home.
I also think fatigue with superhero and supernatural movies is starting to set in.
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There is not one movie that has been offered at home with HBO or Paramount that I regretted not being able to see it on the big screen. The one movie my wife and I went to the theater to see was A Quiet Place II. The rest of the movies like Kong, Suicide Squad, Space Jam, Conjuring 3 have all been mediocre at best. I doubt I would even buy any of them on home video. I did buy the 4k of A Quiet Place II, which was good but not amazing either. It felt like a stopgap to a bigger story waiting to be told. And, yes, this pandemic is raging on and I'd rather not be packed in like sardines with strangers who think it is all over.
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I also think fatigue with superhero and supernatural movies is starting to set in.
Let's wait until we get a prime release like a Spider-man before we make those assumptions.
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Let's wait until we get a prime release like a Spider-man before we make those assumptions.
Just getting a real sense of super hero fatigue from the general populace.
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I’m with Deftones here. Once a real established property bombs, maybe that can be considered the reason.
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There is no day and date streaming option for Spider-Man come December. Itís one thing if itís a bad movie. But, If it bombs because people wonít see it until 2022 or until Covid is completely vanquished, then theaters and the entertainment industry are going to have some serious issues.
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Watched it tonight on HBOMax.
I would be fine with seeing it in the theatre if we were doing better with covid.
I liked it a lot, I gave it 4 stars. Good balance of humor, some seriousness. The whole beach invasion thing was awesome and unexpected.
The Harley/El Presidente thing was a little weird and cliche, but I like how that subplot ended up.
I was definitely surprised at some of the folks who didn't survive.
It did a good job at introducing backstory for some probably lesser known characters without being all HERE'S THE EXPOSITION FOR CHARACTER 3.....
I definitely prefer the DC movies when they have a little fun with it, like this one. If you think about it, superheroes/vilains in general are kinda weird/silly, so it's great to tell an exciting story with crazy but 'realistic' characters and still have a sense of fun.
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There is no day and date streaming option for Spider-Man come December. Itís one thing if itís a bad movie. But, If it bombs because people wonít see it until 2022 or until Covid is completely vanquished, then theaters and the entertainment industry are going to have some serious issues.
I'm expecting another bad winter. The Spidey sequel will probably be moved to late Spring.
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What does the Spiderman movie have to do with anything in this thread or HBO MAX? Isn't that a Sony release? It'll get a theatrical release only. Unless I fucking missed something.
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What does the Spiderman movie have to do with anything in this thread or HBO MAX? Isn't that a Sony release? It'll get a theatrical release only. Unless I fucking missed something.
Someone talked about this underperforming due to superhero fatigue. I said let's see a premium property like Spider-man tank before we talk about superhero fatigue.

Off topic but related to box office returns for superhero movies.
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It was certainly better than the first one but thatís not saying much. I thought this was just alright. It started out really explosive and exciting but it started to lose me about 1/2 in when Harley and the General (or whoever he was) had their romantic evening. That whole sequence really felt awkward and I kept expecting it to cut back to Harley in her cell imagining the whole thing. The good news is that after that, Harley Quinn really started to shine and by the end, she was the best thing about the movie.

I donít have an issue with offing the original SS at the beginning but I was a little disappointed that Weasel didnít have a bigger part. I was really looking forward to him in this.

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