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Old 03-18-22, 04:00 AM
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

I loved the visual style and the 2nd and 3rd act of the movie were okay, but the 1st act was just loud noises and what I hated about the movie was the trivialization of Mei's upbringing. Her mother is screwing her up hard. She's going to develop a depression.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by Runaway
I loved the visual style and the 2nd and 3rd act of the movie were okay, but the 1st act was just loud noises and what I hated about the movie was the trivialization of Mei's upbringing. Her mother is screwing her up hard. She's going to develop a depression.
That was literally one of the main themes of the movie.
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That was literally one of the main themes of the movie.
I did acknowledge that it was in the movie, but not in a fashion I would consider apporiate to the seriousness of the matter, that's literally what trivilization is. The movie was more about becoming independent of your overbearing parents (mother), which by the end of the movie succeeds.
I don't expect the movie finishing on the possibility of Mei committing suicide in 20 years, but don't finish the movie on the note that everything is alright and no harm was done. Mei is already screwed up for life, since those early years are the most important.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by Runaway
I did acknowledge that it was in the movie, but not in a fashion I would consider apporiate to the seriousness of the matter, that's literally what trivilization is. The movie was more about becoming independent of your overbearing parents (mother), which by the end of the movie succeeds.
I don't expect the movie finishing on the possibility of Mei committing suicide in 20 years, but don't finish the movie on the note that everything is alright and no harm was done. Mei is already screwed up for life, since those early years are the most important.
You are generalizing way too much. Every single person that has an overbearing parent growing up is not "screwed up for life" or going to suffer depression for the rest of their life. That's not how human beings work early years or not.
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Originally Posted by The Questyen
You are generalizing way too much. Every single person that has an overbearing parent growing up is not "screwed up for life" or going to suffer depression for the rest of their life. That's not how human beings work early years or not.
That is exactly how people work. Not every depression has to manfiest in instability or worse, perhaps Mei becomes an overbearing mother, too, like her mother, who had an overbearing mother herself, but everything done to us, by our parents influences our psyche.
I know it's a family movie, I can't expect it to be to more, but I still think the movie trivialized the way Mei was treated by her mother.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

^ But Mei realized this and broke out of that mold. She very much had an independent streak in that she was going against her mother's wishes. If anything, this was closer to the Far From the Tree short or Joy Luck Club (if she were Waverly).
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

I watched this last night. It's fun and cute, but not up there with Pixar's best. Doubt I'll ever revisit it.
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Plus she was already fiercely independent, just leading a double life and hiding it from her parents. So it's not like she had to develop herself completely, it was more being honest with her parents about who she truly was (or was becoming), and finding a balance between the cultural norm of honoring your parents and being who she wants to be. And her parents kind of saw the light there, that was the whole point.

Also, it's based off the real life experiences of the writer, who I assume is not a psychological wreck or at the very least doesn't consider herself one.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

I watched the making of/behind the scenes and it really does a great job of explaining why this movie was made. Also, yes, the ladies behind the film are not psychological wrecks. The funniest tidbit is that they chose a red panda as the animal Mei turns into because they thought red pandas are adorable looking animals. Also impressive is how much of this film was completed during the pandemic.

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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

I haven't looked into Domee Shi's interviews yet, but I'm wondering where the autobiographical elements end in terms of her relationship with her parents. The plot point with not just Mei Lin's mother but her grandmother and aunts
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all suddenly accepting her decision to keep the red panda



really feels like wish fulfillment.

I come from a pretty strict upbringing myself and knew others who had old-school parents whose #1 rule was 'You're the child, I'm the adult. You listen to what I say.' I can totally see someone like Shi fantasizing about talking back to the adults in her family when she was 13 and their taking her side.

I know exactly how teen rebellion played out for the kids and I back in the day, and I can tell you the 'rents didn't just simply roll over and say, 'OK, they're grown up now. They've got this. We should leave them be.' It took decades for some of our parents to mellow out and acknowledgement their children's independence and adulthood.

I realize Shi rolled that turn in with the adventure elements to sell that
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change of heart by the adult women in her family



but I didn't buy it. I reacted by thinking what I said at the top.

Overall, I'm in the camp that feels this is good but isn't peak Pixar. I'll probably need to give Turning Red another look to settle my rankings but as of this moment, I'd put it last in terms straight-to-Disney+ Pixar releases behind Soul with Encanto leading the pack.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

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Plus she was already fiercely independent, just leading a double life and hiding it from her parents. So it's not like she had to develop herself completely, it was more being honest with her parents about who she truly was (or was becoming), and finding a balance between the cultural norm of honoring your parents and being who she wants to be. And her parents kind of saw the light there, that was the whole point.

Also, it's based off the real life experiences of the writer, who I assume is not a psychological wreck or at the very least doesn't consider herself one.
She is an adult and made a movie about her (bad) childhood experiences, seems to me she is still occupied by her upbringing. She deals with it in a more healthy way than taking drugs, but obviously she can't let go of her experience had the channel it in a creative way. Leading a double life as a kid isn't something kids should experience.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Well the finale was that she broke that mold. So she will be growing up without needing to live a double life, but also to embrace what she learned. They did an outstanding job showing that.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by L Everett Scott

Overall, I'm in the camp that feels this is good but isn't peak Pixar. I'll probably need to give Turning Red another look to settle my rankings but as of this moment, I'd put it last in terms straight-to-Disney+ Pixar releases behind Soul with Encanto leading the pack.
Encanto isn't Pixar and it wasn't straight to Disney+
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by Obi-Wanma
Encanto isn't Pixar and it wasn't straight to Disney+
That also confused me too at first. I wasn't sure whether Encanto was a Pixar film or not when I first heard about it. Probably because the movie looks similar to Coco and Luca.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by E Unit
Well the finale was that she broke that mold. So she will be growing up without needing to live a double life, but also to embrace what she learned. They did an outstanding job showing that.
And I felt it was more about her Mom dealing with the whole Red Panda thing than anything and suppressing her feelings. She was just as guilty at trying to be this dutiful daughter that was afraid of her own Mom that she didn't know what to do when Mei put her foot down and formed her own opinions and disapproved of her friends.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Oh look, someone found the worst possible take on this film.

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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Getting a theatrical release on February 9.

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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

I'll at least check this one out in the theater. It definitely got the shaft from Chapek dumping it to Disney +

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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

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I'll at least check this one out in the theater. It definitely got the shaft from Chapek dumping it to Disney +
Looking forward to seeing this in an actual theater.

One of my close friends & I initially watched it on Disney+, so I'll probably reach out to him if he wants to see it again during the re-release.

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