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Old 01-08-22, 01:11 PM
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

This looks great. I'll definitely fire it up on D+.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

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Except Pixar staff have ALREADY complained and moaned about it being disrespectful and questioning why ONLY their work gets this treatment with their past films as it is... and it seemingly has fallen on deaf ears as they continue to treat Pixar films as second class citizens who are told they'll get a theatrical release yet get tossed onto Disney+ for free... while Disney films that get tossed on Disney+ do so with a premium cost ontop of it... not for free.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/04/pi...ng-1234633910/
https://screenrant.com/pixar-luca-so...d-controversy/

I can't really see them continuing to remain silent or stick around for future projects while being so upset with how they see their work being treated.

It's not about it not getting a theatrical release at all, but also the fact that their films don't get the "premium" cost additive that Disney films do when they hit streaming.

Considering this is the third time this has happened, it paints a clear picture of the difference in treatment between films produced under the Pixar label and films not.
I can't imagine they are going to pull the same thing with Lightyear.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

This would have probably bombed in theaters anyway. The trailers make it look very creepy. It looks like it should have been a Pixar short instead of a full movie.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

This comes out on Friday on Disney+. I saw that they were doing a really limited amount of theatrical screenings in select markets.

Reviews are super positive: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/turning_red

I think it was a mistake to not give this a wide theatrical release (even it was short).
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

is this premium on D+?
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No.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Yeah, Disney should have put this out in theaters at this point. Glad it’s up on D+ this weekend, my kids have been clamoring to watch this for a while.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

My daughter was upset when I told her that it wouldn't be in theaters, even though we have Disney+. I think we saw a trailer for it with Encanto.

Going to the theater feels like an event to her, and watching it at home doesn't.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Some controversy with a now-pulled review that claimed the humor was too Chinese-Canadian specific to work for all audiences.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/t...ew-1235200056/
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by Obi-Wanma
My daughter was upset when I told her that it wouldn't be in theaters, even though we have Disney+. I think we saw a trailer for it with Encanto.

Going to the theater feels like an event to her, and watching it at home doesn't.
If she is young enough, you could make it fun by pretending to buy concessions in the kitchen and then coming back into the house thru the front door, making up fake tickets.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by Count Dooku
Some controversy with a now-pulled review that claimed the humor was too Chinese-Canadian specific to work for all audiences.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/t...ew-1235200056/
I read that and I do not agree with his idea that you have to see yourself in films to enjoy them (representation matters, but a good story is a good story), I can't help but wonder if he had a somewhat valid point about it being narrowly focused. Again, the idea of telling a story is to share an experience with others, and if that experience is the Asian community in Canada in the early 2000s, that's kinda narrow, but it's also about kids and that's pretty broad. We should be able to learn about others' experiences, but I don't think it's wrong to say "you're going to need to put some work into understanding this, but it's worth the effort".

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If she is young enough, you could make it fun by pretending to buy concessions in the kitchen and then coming back into the house thru the front door, making up fake tickets.
Yes, maybe even play trailers and a cartoon in front of the movie too.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Wow, the animation is outstanding. It's presented in 4k DV.

Never thought I would see boxes of maxipads in a Pixar movie.

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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

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Wow, the animation is outstanding. It's presented in 4k DV.

Never thought I would see boxes of maxipads in a Pixar movie.
Clearly you missed the entire Bo-Peep deleted tampon scenes of Toy Story 2.

I KID! I KID!

They were Jessie's.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Just wait ‘til they introduce “Maxi” in Toy Story 5.
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Old 03-11-22, 10:26 AM
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

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I read that and I do not agree with his idea that you have to see yourself in films to enjoy them (representation matters, but a good story is a good story), I can't help but wonder if he had a somewhat valid point about it being narrowly focused. Again, the idea of telling a story is to share an experience with others, and if that experience is the Asian community in Canada in the early 2000s, that's kinda narrow, but it's also about kids and that's pretty broad. We should be able to learn about others' experiences, but I don't think it's wrong to say "you're going to need to put some work into understanding this, but it's worth the effort".
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If a movie is honest and specific about its story and characterizations, then people will find the universality in it, even if the culture being represented is not their own. If the humor in the movie is reliant on culturally specific jokes and references, then that is another matter, but I doubt that is the case with a Pixar movie.

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Old 03-11-22, 11:07 AM
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

The writers main problem wasn't the complaint, it was just his phrasing. He may have a point about the jokes being too inside, I grew up in a large asian family and yeah we do have those. But I haven't seen the movie yet.

As for the appeal thing, you can relate to a human experience regardless of whose going through it, even if the movie is about a girl going through puberty. Though it is more specific than say, Inside Out.

It may definitely connect with some more than others though - just like 13 Going on 30 probably played better to certain demographics.


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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Originally Posted by Count Dooku
Some controversy with a now-pulled review that claimed the humor was too Chinese-Canadian specific to work for all audiences.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/t...ew-1235200056/
I haven’t seen the movie yet, I intend to soon, and this review is by far one of the most cis/hetero/white male thing a person could ever say. What a joke.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Yeah, I only read a few snippets from that review but it doesn’t make a lot of sense. I could name a hundred movies that are set in a specific time/place with characters who come from a background I know nothing about yet I can still find enjoyment from the movie.

I don’t think that reviewer’s criticisms would ever even cross my mind while watching any particular movie.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

I really enjoyed it. Fun entertaining movie.
Mostly confused as to why it was a period film (ha) taking place in 2002 rather than present day. That still seems like a weird decision.
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I really enjoyed it. Fun entertaining movie.
Mostly confused as to why it was a period film (ha) taking place in 2002 rather than present day. That still seems like a weird decision.
The director/co-screenwriter is a Chinese-Canadian who grew up in Toronto and was going through puberty at around that time - so since it was inspired from her life, she wanted to keep the time period similar.
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The director/co-screenwriter is a Chinese-Canadian who grew up in Toronto and was going through puberty at around that time - so since it was inspired from her life, she wanted to keep the time period similar.
That’s what I figured but it really doesn’t add anything to the story and just makes people confused. Outside of the old flip phones and Seinfeld-like cordless home phones, you couldn’t even tell it wasn’t present day if you didn’t look at the calendar.
Maybe if it were narrated by an adult looking back instead of a tween girl…
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I really enjoyed it. Fun entertaining movie.
Mostly confused as to why it was a period film (ha) taking place in 2002 rather than present day. That still seems like a weird decision.
Haven't seen it. Does 2002 allow them to avoid all the implications that social media and camera phones would have on the story of a 13 year old girl in 2022?
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Haven't seen it. Does 2002 allow them to avoid all the implications that social media and camera phones would have on the story of a 13 year old girl in 2022?
Social media, maybe. But the girls and others record video on camcorders so not really on the second point.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

The lack of TikTok or similar representation in the movie is a blessing in itself. Yes, people were recording themselves back then, but they didn't have a place to constantly share their recordings while fame seeking. The movie eliminates that and allows for a better representation of that person's personal experiences. Imagine how we would be different now if we grew up with the things that our children are so used to today.
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Re: Disney/Pixar's Turning Red (2022, S: Shi) V: Chiang, Oh

Not bad, for the most part I enjoyed this. It feels a bit more like DreamWorks than Pixar. Certainly enjoyed it more than Encanto, which I think is overrated.

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