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#51
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Wait, I thought Godzilla vs Kong was supposed to make $10M tops? And I thought theatres were dead. For limited capacity, a pandemic still, and also airing on HBO Max, this is pretty good.
Wait, I thought Godzilla vs Kong was supposed to make $10M tops? And I thought theatres were dead. For limited capacity, a pandemic still, and also airing on HBO Max, this is pretty good.
I was about to post the same thing!
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I'm pretty sure there was a lot of human story left on the cutting room floor. Why else does Lance Reddick have higher billing than Bichir? So much unexplained.. where's Charles Dance? Who created Kong's Stormbreaker? Why did Mecha-G become sentient? But I didn't care.. as long as the titans were fighting, it was pretty awesome! And G wins.. not once, but twice. #TeamGodzilla
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#53
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
In the words of the late, great Roger Ebert, I hated, Hated, HATED this movie.
While the prior three (two Godzilla, one Kong) films were far from great, I found something to like in each one of them. They at least tried to give us a compelling storyline with interesting characters. Godzilla vs. Kong seems to be the result of the filmmakers just throwing their hands up in the air and saying, "Yeah, we got nothing much here in terms of plot or characters, but we'll give you 30 minutes of these monsters fighting for your two hours of time. Good enough?" No, it's not.
While the prior three (two Godzilla, one Kong) films were far from great, I found something to like in each one of them. They at least tried to give us a compelling storyline with interesting characters. Godzilla vs. Kong seems to be the result of the filmmakers just throwing their hands up in the air and saying, "Yeah, we got nothing much here in terms of plot or characters, but we'll give you 30 minutes of these monsters fighting for your two hours of time. Good enough?" No, it's not.
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In the words of the late, great Roger Ebert, I hated, Hated, HATED this movie.
While the prior three (two Godzilla, one Kong) films were far from great, I found something to like in each one of them. They at least tried to give us a compelling storyline with interesting characters. Godzilla vs. Kong seems to be the result of the filmmakers just throwing their hands up in the air and saying, "Yeah, we got nothing much here in terms of plot or characters, but we'll give you 30 minutes of these monsters fighting for your two hours of time. Good enough?" No, it's not.
While the prior three (two Godzilla, one Kong) films were far from great, I found something to like in each one of them. They at least tried to give us a compelling storyline with interesting characters. Godzilla vs. Kong seems to be the result of the filmmakers just throwing their hands up in the air and saying, "Yeah, we got nothing much here in terms of plot or characters, but we'll give you 30 minutes of these monsters fighting for your two hours of time. Good enough?" No, it's not.
Shit dude, Toho has done that since "Godzilla Raids Again".
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#55
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Decent fun. Enjoyed the monster scenes. The stuff with humans? Snore. Only decent human stuff is with the deaf girl. All the neon in Hong Kong looked cool during the fight scenes.
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#56
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Vulture counted every piece of dialogue Kyle Chandler said. He spoke 115 total words the entire movie.
https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/godz...explained.html
https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/godz...explained.html
#58
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
How about the "quack science" author who was not only an accomplished pilot on a heretofore unknown vehicle using super-secret anti-grav engines but also knew how to retro-engineer it to become a massive defibrillator?
The podcaster who was basically your run of the mill engineer able to observe technology for the first time and recognize it as a psionic uplink between Ghidorah's skull, the pilot, and MechaGodzilla?
Dumping liquid on a computer to stop the psionic uplink? That's like peeing on your laptop to shut down an Amazon cloud server.
Both Godzilla and Kong standing on the deck of a carrier without it sinking immediately. In fact, it seemed perfectly buoyant!
The complete lack of surveillance and security in top secret hush-hush massively illegal evil villain's lair. Pretty much every door was unlocked and easily accessible. The dopey humans were even allowed to sneak into the wreckage of Apex and wander about as much as they wanted. Even into the super top secret areas that whisked them off to Hong Kong...
Godzilla using his atomic breath to blow a hole straight to the center of the Earth.
Speaking of the Hollow Earth, what exactly was the light source that provided them clear blue skies?
Kong climbing up from the center of the Earth in a matter of just a few minutes. What happened to the "gravity inversion" that almost killed him earlier in a freefall plummet?
The Evil Villain actually MONOLOGUING seconds before his unexpected demise.
This movie was pure Uwe Boll/Roland Emmerich territory I mean it's total "Turn off your brain and watch monsters beat the crap out of each other" funtime, which is fine, but stupid shit is stupid shit.
The podcaster who was basically your run of the mill engineer able to observe technology for the first time and recognize it as a psionic uplink between Ghidorah's skull, the pilot, and MechaGodzilla?
Dumping liquid on a computer to stop the psionic uplink? That's like peeing on your laptop to shut down an Amazon cloud server.
Both Godzilla and Kong standing on the deck of a carrier without it sinking immediately. In fact, it seemed perfectly buoyant!
The complete lack of surveillance and security in top secret hush-hush massively illegal evil villain's lair. Pretty much every door was unlocked and easily accessible. The dopey humans were even allowed to sneak into the wreckage of Apex and wander about as much as they wanted. Even into the super top secret areas that whisked them off to Hong Kong...
Godzilla using his atomic breath to blow a hole straight to the center of the Earth.
Speaking of the Hollow Earth, what exactly was the light source that provided them clear blue skies?
Kong climbing up from the center of the Earth in a matter of just a few minutes. What happened to the "gravity inversion" that almost killed him earlier in a freefall plummet?
The Evil Villain actually MONOLOGUING seconds before his unexpected demise.
This movie was pure Uwe Boll/Roland Emmerich territory I mean it's total "Turn off your brain and watch monsters beat the crap out of each other" funtime, which is fine, but stupid shit is stupid shit.
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#59
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Watched this tonight with EXTREMELY low expectations considering I though Godzilla was below average and King of the Monsters was one of the worst big budget movies I’ve seen in years. Overall I thought it was pretty fun. There was a bunch of pretty stupid shit but the Kong vs. Godzilla stuff was fun enough to out weight the bad.
The Good:
-There were a few questionable effects shots but overall the special effects were amazing! The best Godzilla and Kong have ever looked!
-Daylight fight scenes! Great visual effects AND in the light!
-The human characters didn’t add much but that was the point. They weren’t anywhere near as shitty as they were in KoM. Although, it would have been nice to see Chandler’s character do...something...anything in this movie.
The Bad:
-The fight scenes were great and the Hong Kong scenes looked spectacular but the destruction porn was Man of Steel x10! Literally hundreds of thousands of people had to have died in that last battle.
-Millie Bobbie Brown’s whole subplot could have been edited out and it wouldn’t have changed a single thing. I guess they needed some sort of connection with the the last Godzilla movie.
-The questionable sci-fi elements. I guess I’m watching a movie about a giant monkey fighting a giant lizard so I shouldn’t focus on things being too outlandish but those HEAVS seemed like they were out of another movie.
-The fact that this movie takes place all around the world and the characters all just happen to end up together in the end. Millie Bobbie Brown and Kyle Chandler were especially laughable. Particularly when they just happen upon each other in the chaos of millions of people trying to flee the city.
-I’m not sure why these movies insist on bringing little kids along for extremely dangerous missions.
- Why exactly were Skarsgard and Hall dressed up like X-Men again?
The Good:
-There were a few questionable effects shots but overall the special effects were amazing! The best Godzilla and Kong have ever looked!
-Daylight fight scenes! Great visual effects AND in the light!
-The human characters didn’t add much but that was the point. They weren’t anywhere near as shitty as they were in KoM. Although, it would have been nice to see Chandler’s character do...something...anything in this movie.
The Bad:
-The fight scenes were great and the Hong Kong scenes looked spectacular but the destruction porn was Man of Steel x10! Literally hundreds of thousands of people had to have died in that last battle.
-Millie Bobbie Brown’s whole subplot could have been edited out and it wouldn’t have changed a single thing. I guess they needed some sort of connection with the the last Godzilla movie.
-The questionable sci-fi elements. I guess I’m watching a movie about a giant monkey fighting a giant lizard so I shouldn’t focus on things being too outlandish but those HEAVS seemed like they were out of another movie.
-The fact that this movie takes place all around the world and the characters all just happen to end up together in the end. Millie Bobbie Brown and Kyle Chandler were especially laughable. Particularly when they just happen upon each other in the chaos of millions of people trying to flee the city.
-I’m not sure why these movies insist on bringing little kids along for extremely dangerous missions.
- Why exactly were Skarsgard and Hall dressed up like X-Men again?
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I enjoyed the monster fighting scenes. But everything else was just stupid. Honestly, the most ridiculous bullshit storyline I've ever seen in a major Hollywood movie. It's like a SyFy Channel movie with a $200 Million special effects budget.
#62
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I like these movies and find them entertaining, but I always feel like the scale of the titans, especially Kong, fluctuates from place to place. Anyways, this movie was enjoyable.
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#63
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I did find it odd that these “Terranauts” were dressed in special suits to do their thing yet they didn’t bother with helmets when they were bouncing around at 1000mph, or whatever speed Skarsgard said they were going.
I guess cool black leather suits that didn’t protect against anything were good enough.
I guess cool black leather suits that didn’t protect against anything were good enough.
#64
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
According to Box Office Mojo it's made roughly $139M worldwide counting 2 days of U.S. box office.
#65
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
There was tons of collateral damage in Hong Kong. Kong was literally parkouring off of buildings. There were still people in those buildings. What the hell, man! Why couldn't Kong have led Godzilla away to a less populated area?
#66
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Godzilla's attacking! King Kong's attacking! Mecha-Godzilla is destroying everything!!
Hong Kong citizens: "Let's keep eating dinner on the top floor of this skyscraper..."
Hong Kong citizens: "Let's keep eating dinner on the top floor of this skyscraper..."
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#67
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Re: Godzilla vs. Kong (Wingard, 2021) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This was my first theatrical experience since October when I went to see Possessor Uncut. As a big screen spectacle, it filled the bill; I feel super bad for folks who had no choice but to watch this on a tablet or phone. In terms of story, that Possessor Uncut was pretty darned good, wasn't it?
I've watched all the Legendary Monsterverse films and have to side with the majority here--Skull Island was the best. When the opening credits were rolling for GvK and I saw Michael Doughtery listed as one of the writers, I thought 'This better be the X2 or Trick 'r Treat Dougherty and not the X-Men Apocalypse or Godzilla: KotM Dougherty' that we're getting. Well, if wishes were horses...
I enjoyed the fights and really appreciated that Wingard was able to keep the action coherent and avoid the visual noise from KotM. There were only a couple of parts where I lost of the plot of the battles but they were very brief moments and I was able to pick up where they left off pretty easily.
Going in, I figured that the movie would address the issue of Godzilla's atomic breath...that is to say, it wouldn't affect Kong or that he'd be at least resistant to it. Because if G could just incinerate the big ape then this movie would be about five minutes long. But as far as I could tell, no, that wasn't the case at all. Kong clearly got singed when the atomic breath caught a piece of his back.
I saw the parts of the slugfest where Kong pushed or knocked G's mouth away or shoved debris down his gob, but I also noticed a lot of instances where Toho's big boy had the ape dead in his sights and simply didn't blast him. I guess I should've expected this given how horrible the writing was outside of the monster battles. If the writers are going to use science from The Core then expecting them to provide a reason that Kong doesn't get turned into a 50-storey piece of toast would be a pretty big ask.
Also, I believe someone (the podcaster?) mentioned the word 'robotics' in the first 10-15 minutes. When I heard that, I immediately thought 'Oh, they're bringing in Mechagodzilla.' Was anyone else in the same boat?
I've watched all the Legendary Monsterverse films and have to side with the majority here--Skull Island was the best. When the opening credits were rolling for GvK and I saw Michael Doughtery listed as one of the writers, I thought 'This better be the X2 or Trick 'r Treat Dougherty and not the X-Men Apocalypse or Godzilla: KotM Dougherty' that we're getting. Well, if wishes were horses...
I enjoyed the fights and really appreciated that Wingard was able to keep the action coherent and avoid the visual noise from KotM. There were only a couple of parts where I lost of the plot of the battles but they were very brief moments and I was able to pick up where they left off pretty easily.
Going in, I figured that the movie would address the issue of Godzilla's atomic breath...that is to say, it wouldn't affect Kong or that he'd be at least resistant to it. Because if G could just incinerate the big ape then this movie would be about five minutes long. But as far as I could tell, no, that wasn't the case at all. Kong clearly got singed when the atomic breath caught a piece of his back.
I saw the parts of the slugfest where Kong pushed or knocked G's mouth away or shoved debris down his gob, but I also noticed a lot of instances where Toho's big boy had the ape dead in his sights and simply didn't blast him. I guess I should've expected this given how horrible the writing was outside of the monster battles. If the writers are going to use science from The Core then expecting them to provide a reason that Kong doesn't get turned into a 50-storey piece of toast would be a pretty big ask.
Also, I believe someone (the podcaster?) mentioned the word 'robotics' in the first 10-15 minutes. When I heard that, I immediately thought 'Oh, they're bringing in Mechagodzilla.' Was anyone else in the same boat?
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#69
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I'm kind of curious as to how WB will judge the overall financial success of this and other movies they release to streaming and theaters. It's fair to say that the ticket sales numbers are no longer indicative as to how many people actually saw the movie.
#70
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Does anyone know what was used from Lethal Weapon 2 in this movie? It got a mention in the credits.
#72
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They have all sorts of stats on HBO Max as well
#73
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#74
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Streaming services will need to figure out this sort thing soon since the cat is out the bag now and all actors and production companies are going to want a cut of the streaming revenue in future contracts. With that being case, we'll probably be hearing sooner rather than later about how services work out revenue for streamed shows and movies.