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Old 03-09-21, 11:21 AM
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Re: Most underrated gem in a director or writers resume?

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
Sidney Lumet. That reminds me. Equus. Great film. But intense and depressing as hell.
Haven't seen that one in a long time, need to revisit. As for Lumet, one of his underrated gems for me is Q&A.
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Miracles (aka Mr. Canton and Lady Rose) by Jackie Chan. A 2-hour epic with exactly two martial arts/action scenes, but it's proof that Jackie had great skill as a director. I say "had", because after some difficult productions he chose to just work in front of the camera rather than both act and direct.

This may seem a little odd since it's a fairly well-known film, but One Missed Call by Takashi Miike. The reason I include it though, is because Miike is known as an inventive and daring director, and here he is making a typical "scary girl" movie that were so prevalent in Asian horror in the late 90s/early 00s. But when you watch it, despite the usual tropes, it's definitely a Miike film, and his style jumps right through all the cliches
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This may seem a little odd since it's a fairly well-known film, but One Missed Call by Takashi Miike. The reason I include it though, is because Miike is known as an inventive and daring director, and here he is making a typical "scary girl" movie that were so prevalent in Asian horror in the late 90s/early 00s. But when you watch it, despite the usual tropes, it's definitely a Miike film, and his style jumps right through all the cliches
Nice, I hadn't seen it, checked the usual streaming sites and found it for $2.99 on
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Haven't seen that one in a long time, need to revisit. As for Lumet, one of his underrated gems for me is Q&A.
Night Falls on Manhattan is a good one too. I guess he was a great filmmaker.
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Originally Posted by Paff
This may seem a little odd since it's a fairly well-known film, but One Missed Call by Takashi Miike. The reason I include it though, is because Miike is known as an inventive and daring director, and here he is making a typical "scary girl" movie that were so prevalent in Asian horror in the late 90s/early 00s. But when you watch it, despite the usual tropes, it's definitely a Miike film, and his style jumps right through all the cliches
I liked it, some of the logic/plot is weird. But if I were to pick something from Miike it would be Visitor Q.
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Didn't expect so many Woody Allen responses. To me his most underated film is September. It's a fantastic film thats been nearly forgotten.
Oh man. Gotta disagree there. It's ok, but relatively speaking I think September is his worst of the 80's and the movie that ended one of the greatest prolonged stretches of classics any director has ever put out. (Depending on how one feels about a Midsummer's Sex comedy that is. I think it's fun.)
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Originally Posted by Paff
Miracles (aka Mr. Canton and Lady Rose) by Jackie Chan. A 2-hour epic with exactly two martial arts/action scenes, but it's proof that Jackie had great skill as a director. I say "had", because after some difficult productions he chose to just work in front of the camera rather than both act and direct.
I love Miracles. There's not a lot of action, but what's there is incredible. I will say having rewatched it recently (via the great 88 Films Blu), the first half hour and the last half hour are a blast, but that middle hour drags quite a bit.
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Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen it (only have the US DVD, guess I gotta get that 88 Films Blu...), but I do love the movie. Big change of pace for Jackie, and I like the musical sequence.

While I'm mentioning Asian films, let me also add Park Chan-Wook's I'm A Cyborg But That's OK. He's well known for the "Vengeance" films and other movies like Thirst, Stoker, and The Handmaiden, but Cyborg may actually be my favorite of his. A young girl believes she's a cyborg and therefore doesn't need to eat. She's committed to a mental hospital where a young man falls in love with her. Unfortunately, she's dying because she's self-starving herself. The young man is the only one who can save her, and he does it by playing into her illness rather than getting her to face reality, and maybe her delusional world is better than the real one anyway. It's just a wonderful movie from beginning to end.
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Paul Schrader

Cat People

I know many consider this to be Schrader's worst film and a shallow imitation of the original, but I've always enjoyed this over-the-top remake for its sleek stylism and for enthusiastically throwing in all the gore, nudity and cat effects that were only implied in the original. And it also features Nastassia Kinski at the height (and beginning of the end) of her Hollywood stardom.
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Re: Most underrated gem in a director or writers resume?

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If you have a region-free BR player, there's a R2 Lionsgate release coming out in April. https://www.amazon.com/The-Limey-Blu-ray/dp/B084XT1HQ2

The film is also available for digital purchase in 4K UHD format from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Limey-4K-UHD-.../dp/B082LPTJ51
yeah, I actually bought that digital some time ago with the new cover art. Not sure if that means different version, but I figure streaming is streaming and most likely same as before if it was before. Are there extras? I would need extras on this puppy. I don’t know why we don’t have any physical in US. Soderbergh certainly has every other on his resume out. This happens to be upper echelon imo.
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Re: Most underrated gem in a director or writers resume?

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
Paul Schrader

Cat People

I know many consider this to be Schrader's worst film and a shallow imitation of the original, but I've always enjoyed this over-the-top remake for its sleek stylism and for enthusiastically throwing in all the gore, nudity and cat effects that were only implied in the original. And it also features Nastassia Kinski at the height (and beginning of the end) of her Hollywood stardom.

That movie is so unabashedly 80s. Synth music score, gory practical effects, and a hot actress who isn't afraid to get naked. That's why I love it too.


My pick: Ridley Scott's Black Rain. Kind of underperformed when it was released, but it's aged really well and makes a good companion piece to Blade Runner. What's cool is that it's not elaborate sets Scott is using, but actual places in Japan.
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Re: Most underrated gem in a director or writers resume?

Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
Paul Schrader

Cat People

I know many consider this to be Schrader's worst film and a shallow imitation of the original, but I've always enjoyed this over-the-top remake for its sleek stylism and for enthusiastically throwing in all the gore, nudity and cat effects that were only implied in the original. And it also features Nastassia Kinski at the height (and beginning of the end) of her Hollywood stardom.
I'm not a big fan of Cat People (besides the totally gratuitous Annette O'Toole nude scene).
I recently discovered Light Sleeper streaming on Amazon Prime Video and really liked it. Dafoe is excellent. It's worth checking out.
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Re: Most underrated gem in a director or writers resume?

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I'm not a big fan of Cat People (besides the totally gratuitous Annette O'Toole nude scene).
Gratuitous? That scene was essential....for my enjoyment of Cat People. That scene and Ed Begley getting his arm ripped off.
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I'm not a big fan of Cat People (besides the totally gratuitous Annette O'Toole nude scene).
I recently discovered Light Sleeper streaming on Amazon Prime Video and really liked it. Dafoe is excellent. It's worth checking out.
I recall seeing "Cat People" with my girlfriend at the time, and I enjoyed it while she found it laughable. It was generally hated, as I recall. I was surprised when (pretentious, -but in a good way) SF magazine Cinefantastique printed a lengthy appreciation of the film. Paul Schrader's definitely has an interesting filmography.

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Another underappreciated Scorsese pic is his Cape Fear remake.
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Another underappreciated Scorsese pic is his Cape Fear remake.
From a listing of Scorsese's top-grossing movies :

It was nominated for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress Oscars, and was the inspiration for one of the 10 Best Simpson Episodes Ever. I don't think it's under-appreciated or underrated.
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Dennis Hopper's best film as a director.



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PTA's Hard Eight.
Raimi's Quick and the Dead.
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The Stendhal Syndrome by Dario Argento
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PTA's Hard Eight.
Raimi's Quick and the Dead.
I keep forgetting Raimi directed that. Have the 4K and need to watch again
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I keep forgetting Raimi directed that. Have the 4K and need to watch again
I find it's the polished product of what he was trying to do with Army of Darkness and Darkman.. with a bigger budget, an incredible cast and a western setting. Before he changes does A Simple Plan, For Love of the Game and The Gift... which don't feel like Raimi films.
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It was nominated for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress Oscars, and was the inspiration for one of the 10 Best Simpson Episodes Ever. I don't think it's under-appreciated or underrated.
Critics at the time, even those who liked the movie, thought Scorsese was slumming it with a genre film.
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Shortbus

Forget Hedwig. Shortbus is a far more affecting and compelling film in John Cameron Mitchell's, albeit, short filmography.

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Shortbus

Forget Hedwig. Shortbus is a far more affecting and compelling film in his, albeit, short filmography.
I will never forget "Hedwig". And think "Rabbit Hole" is better than "Shortbus".
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I will never forget "Hedwig". And think "Rabbit Hole" is better than "Shortbus".
To each their own (which was a running theme in Shortbus).


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