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What a mess. Yet another failed DC film, and a true disappointment. I also agree with those who say that the actor who played Max Lord was just awful, and the plot was absolutely illogical and nonsensical. The only segments I thoroughly enjoyed were the majestic flying scenes with Wonder Woman, which reminded me of those from Christopher Reeve's SUPERMAN.
Also forgot to add that the jet invisibility power left me slack-jawed as to its stupidity. (Is this taken from the current comics?)
Also forgot to add that the jet invisibility power left me slack-jawed as to its stupidity. (Is this taken from the current comics?)
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This was not good, though as a Gen-X Washingtonian, I enjoyed seeing 1984 Washington D.C. Commander Salamander was back!
Plotwise, this was a fiasco, and while Gadot and Pine have great chemistry, the characters weren't given a chance to do anything more than wander through the disjointed narrative. It's a shame, because I really liked the first one, but this was as terrible as every other* DCU movie.
* To be fair, I've only seen Superman, Superman/Batman, WW, and JLA. Maybe Aquaman or Shazam or Suicide Squad are better.
Plotwise, this was a fiasco, and while Gadot and Pine have great chemistry, the characters weren't given a chance to do anything more than wander through the disjointed narrative. It's a shame, because I really liked the first one, but this was as terrible as every other* DCU movie.
* To be fair, I've only seen Superman, Superman/Batman, WW, and JLA. Maybe Aquaman or Shazam or Suicide Squad are better.
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It was nice to see Lynda Carter but her scene made no sense in the context of anything we’ve seen in this series. Also, I know it’s been awhile since she played WW but her voice seemed off. Like a crack addict trying to recite lines. It was odd.
I stayed through the end credits thinking there would be a post-credits scene but then I realized that the DC universe is such a fucking mess that I don’t think they would even know what to tease in that scene.
#79
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Yea they screwed this up on SOOO many levels. The edit sucks its WAY to long. Story sucked. effects sucked. And wtf is with her turning into Superman ....did they forget what movie they were making. That annoyed the shit out of me. Also like someone says WHY was this 84....no seriously. NOTHING makes this 84.
It's not awful but there were just to many fucking mistakes made during the making of this film and they add up to a lot. 2 1/2 stars and thats being kind. Gal is still awesome though.
It's not awful but there were just to many fucking mistakes made during the making of this film and they add up to a lot. 2 1/2 stars and thats being kind. Gal is still awesome though.
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Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (Jenkins, 2020) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This was not good, though as a Gen-X Washingtonian, I enjoyed seeing 1984 Washington D.C. Commanderw Salamander was back!
Plotwise, this was a fiasco, and while Gadot and Pine have great chemistry, the characters weren't given a chance to do anything more than wander through the disjointed narrative. It's a shame, because I really liked the first one, but this was as terrible as every other* DCU movie.
* To be fair, I've only seen Superman, Superman/Batman, WW, and JLA. Maybe Aquaman or Shazam or Suicide Squad are better.
Plotwise, this was a fiasco, and while Gadot and Pine have great chemistry, the characters weren't given a chance to do anything more than wander through the disjointed narrative. It's a shame, because I really liked the first one, but this was as terrible as every other* DCU movie.
* To be fair, I've only seen Superman, Superman/Batman, WW, and JLA. Maybe Aquaman or Shazam or Suicide Squad are better.
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A few of you have said that Carter's cameo made no sense. But, I guess most of you completely missed the part where Diana told the story of Asteria, who Carter played, as she was a legendary Amazonian warrior. And she originally wore the golden suit that Diana wore in the fight scene with Cheetah.
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A few of you have said that Carter's cameo made no sense. But, I guess most of you completely missed the part where Diana told the story of Asteria, who Carter played, as she was a legendary Amazonian warrior. And she originally wore the golden suit that Diana wore in the fight scene with Cheetah.
Linda Carter's appearance was obviously fan-service, but was more awkward than endearing.
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This one is a bit disappointing. The movie is way to stretched in the middle and to many developments could be seen a mile away. Making Kristen Wiig into clumsy und weirdly clothed was just lazy. She wishes to be cool like Diana and all she needs is a haircut and a dress. It took Freddie Prinze, Jr. more effort to turn Rachael Leigh Cook into a hot chick.
Max Lord was way over the top, but I think he was going for the coked up Wall Street guy, without actually showing him doing cocaine. Cheetah looked suprisingly good, the CGI in the trailer was definitely worse, but the fight wasn't much longer than in the trailer which was a let down.
Gadot and Pine still work, they have a great chemistry and their scenes made the movie entertaining, but it was a bit too much, that Diana is still actively mourning ~70 years after his death.
Overall this was a step back from the first one.
Max Lord was way over the top, but I think he was going for the coked up Wall Street guy, without actually showing him doing cocaine. Cheetah looked suprisingly good, the CGI in the trailer was definitely worse, but the fight wasn't much longer than in the trailer which was a let down.
Gadot and Pine still work, they have a great chemistry and their scenes made the movie entertaining, but it was a bit too much, that Diana is still actively mourning ~70 years after his death.
Overall this was a step back from the first one.
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As for Jenkins, well i get the feeling she (along with almost everyone except Favreau) will not be given the same freedom allowed to Rian Johnson. Disney will be keeping a tight reign on their productions, and even more so after this release. She was supposed to direct Thor:The Dark World if i recall, and wonder if she left due to creative differences. Wouldnt be surprised if that happens again.
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Have not watched it (and now probably won't) but my more comic book-oriented Facebook friends are raging pretty hard about this one this morning.
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wow, did this movie suck. no redeeming qualities whatsoever. no fun, terrible villains and the action and story were complete an utter crap. haven't disliked a movie, let alone a superhero movie, this much, in a long time. absolutely abysmal. thank god i watched Soul prior. at least i got one beautiful, well-crafted movie on X-Mas day. this was totally forgettable and such a complete departure from the original, that i am just shocked considering who made it and all that were involved. and the Carter cameo was terrible and unnecessary as well. i even thought she delivered her one line with miraculous ineptitude.
not sure it deserves this much, but what the hey, it is the holiday season...
not sure it deserves this much, but what the hey, it is the holiday season...
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I also don’t want to make a feminist argument out of this movie because I don’t think there is one here. I love the character of Wonder Woman and I’m glad she is around to be a positive role model for young girls everywhere BUT with the exception of Steve and maybe Steve’s body replacement, literally every male in this movie was a complete sleaze ball. I was only a kid in the 80s but I didn’t remember every public outing being a gauntlet skeezy dudes making crude comments as women walk by.
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As far as the Lynda Carter voice and all, I think it's too much plastic surgery. Carrie Fisher had the same sort of inflection in her later years.
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it was a bad movie. No logic whatsoever. I cracked up when Diana said Steve doesn't have a passport. The dude he was occupying probably did. The stupidity continues where Steve and Diana stole the jet. Come on. You don't just hand a guy a smart phone if he has only used a rotary.
Edit: Are they going to make a live action Metamorpho since they showed his father in law? I don't recall Simon Stagg in any WW comic story or at least those I read in the 70's - 90's.
Edit: Are they going to make a live action Metamorpho since they showed his father in law? I don't recall Simon Stagg in any WW comic story or at least those I read in the 70's - 90's.
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Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (Jenkins, 2020) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Thematically it seems like they changed a lot of things at the last moment.
I thought the recent iteration of WW was depicted as an uncompromising warrior bad-ass who won't hesitate to use deadly force if necessary? When she says, "Sorry Barbara" to Cheetah when she refuses to renounce her wish, I was almost certain she decided to kill her. With what happened to Maxwell Lord in the comics, I'm surprised she didn't decide to go that route here as well- it would have ended things quickly. I thought that was the whole conclusion they came to when in the bookshop?
I thought the recent iteration of WW was depicted as an uncompromising warrior bad-ass who won't hesitate to use deadly force if necessary? When she says, "Sorry Barbara" to Cheetah when she refuses to renounce her wish, I was almost certain she decided to kill her. With what happened to Maxwell Lord in the comics, I'm surprised she didn't decide to go that route here as well- it would have ended things quickly. I thought that was the whole conclusion they came to when in the bookshop?
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and what was Diana talking into at the end for everyone to renounce their wishes (except us and breaking the 4th wall, i thought)? i thought all the communication gear blew up and what the hell was that blue light Lord was standing in at end? the whole movie was just so bad, i know he produced, as with all the DC movies, but, i'm surprised Snyder wasn't the director. the whole movie was just an incoherent mess.
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it was a bad movie. No logic whatsoever. I cracked up when Diana said Steve doesn't have a passport. The dude he was occupying probably did. The stupidity continues where Steve and Diana stole the jet. Come on. You don't just hand a guy a smart phone if he has only used a rotary.
It also seemed that the “invisible plane” stuff was more lazy writing:
Writer 1: “How do we bring Steve back?”
Writer 2: “Um...magic!”
Writer 1: “Ok, so how about her invisible plane?”
Writer 2: “Invisible plane, invisible plane. Hmm...oh I know, magic!”
Writer 1: “Brilliant! We’re on a roll!”
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Overall, I enjoyed that whole flying scene but I thought that as well.
It also seemed that the “invisible plane” stuff was more lazy writing:
Writer 1: “How do we bring Steve back?”
Writer 2: “Um...magic!”
Writer 1: “Ok, so how about her invisible plane?”
Writer 2: “Invisible plane, invisible plane. Hmm...oh I know, magic!”
Writer 1: “Brilliant! We’re on a roll!”
It also seemed that the “invisible plane” stuff was more lazy writing:
Writer 1: “How do we bring Steve back?”
Writer 2: “Um...magic!”
Writer 1: “Ok, so how about her invisible plane?”
Writer 2: “Invisible plane, invisible plane. Hmm...oh I know, magic!”
Writer 1: “Brilliant! We’re on a roll!”
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Well, if that’s the case, I feel bad for my “crack addict” quip.
I also don’t want to make a feminist argument out of this movie because I don’t think there is one here. I love the character of Wonder Woman and I’m glad she is around to be a positive role model for young girls everywhere BUT with the exception of Steve and maybe Steve’s body replacement, literally every male in this movie was a complete sleaze ball. I was only a kid in the 80s but I didn’t remember every public outing being a gauntlet skeezy dudes making crude comments as women walk by.
I also don’t want to make a feminist argument out of this movie because I don’t think there is one here. I love the character of Wonder Woman and I’m glad she is around to be a positive role model for young girls everywhere BUT with the exception of Steve and maybe Steve’s body replacement, literally every male in this movie was a complete sleaze ball. I was only a kid in the 80s but I didn’t remember every public outing being a gauntlet skeezy dudes making crude comments as women walk by.
I was in my teens and i think it happen more often then not. You go to an office party or party in general and appear alone and are as hot as diana and you will get hit on 90% of the time. lol
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I had heard that she had injured her vocal cords singing years ago. That, along with age and alcoholism can change people's voices, which is also what happened with Carrie Fisher.
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I assume they were going for a “80s yuppie” stereotype during the movie but it was a bit overboard.
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One thing I liked was the introduction of Simon Stagg. He's a villain in DC Comics, mostly related to Rex Mason, aka Metamorpho, who is rumored to appeared in Black Adam. Stagg usually has a bodyguard named Java, a super-powered Neanderthal.
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