Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
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Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
I mentioned 4 in another thread. I will always remember and half the time I can’t remember what won the previous year’s Best Picture for goodness sake.
There are 3 instances in my immediate history that I was really disappointed when someone I thought should have gotten Oscar and was lock imo, but didn’t. Rourke for The Wrestler, Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls, Bill Murray Lost in Translation, actually 4, Keaton in Birdman... Those will always stay with me in some weird way and really stick in my craw. I think I start to remember these specifically when the Oscars are near.
There are 3 instances in my immediate history that I was really disappointed when someone I thought should have gotten Oscar and was lock imo, but didn’t. Rourke for The Wrestler, Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls, Bill Murray Lost in Translation, actually 4, Keaton in Birdman... Those will always stay with me in some weird way and really stick in my craw. I think I start to remember these specifically when the Oscars are near.
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
I gave up on the Oscars in the late 90s when it became anti-mainstream flicks.
To answer two come to mind:
1. Best Pic - Forrest Gump winning best pic over Shawshank and Pulp Fiction. I loved Gump, but it's always felt like the wrong choice and time seems to have borne that out. Two of them have only gotten better with age while the other is mostly forgotten.
2. Best Original Song - "You'll Be in my Heart" (Phil Collins) for Tarzan winning over "Blame Canada" (South Park), and "When She Loved Me" (Toy Story 2). While the Tarzan song is sweet an well done, there's nothing original about it compared to the other two. I'm not even a South Park fan, but there's no denying it's more original. And "When She Loved Me" is such a beautiful song about a child's love of a toy. Again, way more original.
To answer two come to mind:
1. Best Pic - Forrest Gump winning best pic over Shawshank and Pulp Fiction. I loved Gump, but it's always felt like the wrong choice and time seems to have borne that out. Two of them have only gotten better with age while the other is mostly forgotten.
2. Best Original Song - "You'll Be in my Heart" (Phil Collins) for Tarzan winning over "Blame Canada" (South Park), and "When She Loved Me" (Toy Story 2). While the Tarzan song is sweet an well done, there's nothing original about it compared to the other two. I'm not even a South Park fan, but there's no denying it's more original. And "When She Loved Me" is such a beautiful song about a child's love of a toy. Again, way more original.
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80th Academy Awards (2007 films) - The Golden Compass wins Best Visual Effects over Transformers
I remember when Transformers was first announced and nobody had faith that the CGI would look good. But that movie pulled it off. Say what you want about the sequels, but the first film was solid.
I remember when Transformers was first announced and nobody had faith that the CGI would look good. But that movie pulled it off. Say what you want about the sequels, but the first film was solid.
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The first Transformers is trash. It only seems good by comparison to the sequels. The CG is decent though despite the actual "transforming" looking like a jumbled mess of metal parts.
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
Ordinary People beating Raging Bull for best picture & director
Dances With Wolves beating Goodfellas for best picture & director
Rocky beating Taxi Driver/Network/All the President’s Men for best picture
Kramer vs Kramer beating Apocalypse Now for best picture & director
American Beauty beating The Insider for best picture & director
Dances With Wolves beating Goodfellas for best picture & director
Rocky beating Taxi Driver/Network/All the President’s Men for best picture
Kramer vs Kramer beating Apocalypse Now for best picture & director
American Beauty beating The Insider for best picture & director
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I was profoundly disappointed Once Upon A Time In Hollywood didn't win best original screenplay, not because I think it was so superior to Parasite, but because seeing Spike Lee having to hand Tarantino an Oscar would have been such a great moment. On the night of the telecast, after Lee opened the envelope, he stared at it silently for a couple of seconds (presumably as he reminded himself how to pronounce Bong Joo-ho) and I thought for moment he was deciding whether or not to fling the envelope to the ground and walk off stage going, "I thought I could do it, but I can't! I just can't!"
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
Ellen Burstyn for Requiem For A Dream losing to Julia Roberts for wearing a pushup bra in Erin Brokovich.
I have never cared about the Oscars but that one was laughable.
I have never cared about the Oscars but that one was laughable.
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
Annie Hall over Star Wars! WTF Hollywood?
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
One of the most important films of all time looses to a Weinstein film. Nothing against the film itself but you know he had his grubby paws in it.
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Crash winning beat picture. Literally any of the other best picture nominees would have been a far better choice. Heck, I'd go so far as to say any of the nominees in the acting or screenplay categories that weren't nominated for best picture would have made a better choice.
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Kim Basinger (LA Confidential) robbed Julianne Moore (Boogie Nights)
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
I'm still infuriated to this day that Kevin Spacey (American Beauty) beat out Rob Schneider (Deuce Bigelow) for Best Actor.
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
80th Academy Awards (2007 films) - The Golden Compass wins Best Visual Effects over Transformers
I remember when Transformers was first announced and nobody had faith that the CGI would look good. But that movie pulled it off. Say what you want about the sequels, but the first film was solid.
I remember when Transformers was first announced and nobody had faith that the CGI would look good. But that movie pulled it off. Say what you want about the sequels, but the first film was solid.
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Meryl Streep (The Iron Lady) over Glenn Close (Albert Nobbs)
I always had the feeling the Academy wanted to give Streep an Oscar since she is nominated every year. While Streeps performance is good as always the movie is so badly directed, the performance couldn't possibly out way that. Glenn Close totally got lost in her role.
I always had the feeling the Academy wanted to give Streep an Oscar since she is nominated every year. While Streeps performance is good as always the movie is so badly directed, the performance couldn't possibly out way that. Glenn Close totally got lost in her role.
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
Only 2 really. Bill Murray for Lost In Translation and Mickey Rourke for The Wrestler. Murray because he is my favorite actor ever and because LIT is one of my 5 all-time favorite films. Mickey Rourke, because I am a big wrestling fan and there aren't a lot of films about wrestling (due to Hollywoods hatred of wrestling), let alone good ones, and I thought he was so fantastic in the role. Also, at the time, I thought it was going to be such a great comeback story for a great actor that was completely forgotten about by Hollywood. (even if it was his own fault.) Alas, Oscar or not, his comeback was short lived as he torpedoed his career once again. But at the time I was really pulling for him to win it.
Both times the Oscar went to Sean Penn.
Both times the Oscar went to Sean Penn.
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
Generally though, I am more upset about an actor winning an award than I am about an actor losing one. Listening to Anne Hathaway or Reese Witherspoon fall all over themselves with false modesty and self importance really grinds my gears. Basically anyone who refuses (or doesn't know how to) measure the scope of what they've actually accomplished and act accordingly. Also, people who think that by standing on that stage with a statue in their hands means it's their turn to be Rosa Parks for 3 minutes.
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Unless you are being funny, interesting or prompt, you are doing it wrong. (Unless there are extenuating circumstances.)
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Re: Oscar losses that will always stay with you?
Michael Keaton for Birdman.
I was disappointed he didn't win for sentimental reasons and because I know he would have given a really great acceptance speech.
I was disappointed he didn't win for sentimental reasons and because I know he would have given a really great acceptance speech.
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When the powerful, memorable anthem, "This is Me" (The Greatest Showman) lost to the anemic, forgettable "Remember Me" (Coco) I literally yelled, "fuck you!" at the screen. ("This is Me" got me through a really hard period of my life.)
Denzel Washington (Malcolm X) losing to Al Pacino (Scent of a Woman) in 1992.
Do the Right Thing not even getting nominated the same year Driving Miss Daisy won Best Picture.
Won't You Be My Neighbor? not even getting nominated for Best Documentary.
Even though I didn't live during that time: Citizen Kane losing to How Green Was My Valley. (How Green was My Valley being taught in film schools these days?)
And lastly, we've had tons of musicals, a horror movie (The Silence of the Lambs) and a fantasy movie (Lord of the Rings: Return of the King) win Best Picture, but a science film? Nope. After all, how have science fiction films ever advanced the art of cinema?
The Oscars are a joke.
Denzel Washington (Malcolm X) losing to Al Pacino (Scent of a Woman) in 1992.
Do the Right Thing not even getting nominated the same year Driving Miss Daisy won Best Picture.
Won't You Be My Neighbor? not even getting nominated for Best Documentary.
Even though I didn't live during that time: Citizen Kane losing to How Green Was My Valley. (How Green was My Valley being taught in film schools these days?)
And lastly, we've had tons of musicals, a horror movie (The Silence of the Lambs) and a fantasy movie (Lord of the Rings: Return of the King) win Best Picture, but a science film? Nope. After all, how have science fiction films ever advanced the art of cinema?
The Oscars are a joke.
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