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The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
02-13-20, 01:53 PM
#301
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Award shows in general are a thing of the past. With social media, fans can stay up to date with their favorite actors/actresses every day. These used to be a time where the general public could see the stars out of character. That's no longer an event for most people.
02-13-20, 02:31 PM
#302
DVD Talk God
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
02-13-20, 02:35 PM
#303
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
There was a time when the top box office movies were also the Best Picture winners, but with the rise of the "summer blockbuster" those two paths have diverged sharply. We'll never see an Academy Awards broadcast with top ratings again, not if they cut the political speeches, cut the speeches period, bring top comedic talent as hosts, cut out the musical performances, whatever. Not until either the Academy dumbs down or the public smartens up.
What if they revealed all of the nominees right before the winners were announced? That would get rid of all the ridiculous campaigning.
02-13-20, 04:38 PM
#304
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
See, you're missing the basic point I'm making: WHY do they have to boost the ratings? What happens if they don't? OK, ad revenue goes down a little. I mean, worst case scenario ABC pulls the plug, at which point about a half-dozen networks and cable channels would be pounding on the door of the Academy for the chance to air the show.
02-13-20, 05:27 PM
#305
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
What's not working? They gave out the awards on Sunday night. Parasite cleaned up.
See, you're missing the basic point I'm making: WHY do they have to boost the ratings? What happens if they don't? OK, ad revenue goes down a little. I mean, worst case scenario ABC pulls the plug, at which point about a half-dozen networks and cable channels would be pounding on the door of the Academy for the chance to air the show.
See, you're missing the basic point I'm making: WHY do they have to boost the ratings? What happens if they don't? OK, ad revenue goes down a little. I mean, worst case scenario ABC pulls the plug, at which point about a half-dozen networks and cable channels would be pounding on the door of the Academy for the chance to air the show.
I wouldn't be saying "everything is fine we'll do it the same next year".
02-13-20, 06:03 PM
#306
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
^ Almost every year, last years was up over 2018 by about 12%.
02-13-20, 06:25 PM
#307
DVD Talk Legend
02-16-20, 09:23 AM
#309
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Is the 1998 Oscars still the highest rated Oscars show when Titanic cleaned up?
Maybe the 2004 show is up there too with LOTR Return of the King winning that year.
That might be the best case of a popular movie like Titanic getting nominated and stacking up wins at the Oscars.
Maybe the 2004 show is up there too with LOTR Return of the King winning that year.
That might be the best case of a popular movie like Titanic getting nominated and stacking up wins at the Oscars.
02-16-20, 10:18 AM
#310
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Yep.
That needs to be updated as the ratings have sunk lower, especially this year and in 2018.
Historically, the telecast's viewership is higher when box-office hits are favored to win the Best Picture award. More than 57.25 million viewers tuned to the telecast for the 70th Academy Awards in 1998, the year of Titanic, which generated a box office haul during its initial 1997–98 run of US$600.8 million in the US, a box office record that would remain unsurpassed for years.[79] The 76th Academy Awards ceremony, in which The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (pre-telecast box office earnings of US$368 million) received 11 Awards including Best Picture, drew 43.56 million viewers.[80] The most watched ceremony based on Nielsen ratings to date, however, was the 42nd Academy Awards (Best Picture Midnight Cowboy) which drew a 43.4% household rating on April 7, 1970.[81]
By contrast, ceremonies honoring films that have not performed well at the box office tend to show weaker ratings, despite how much critically acclaimed those films have been. The 78th Academy Awards which awarded low-budget independent film Crash (with a pre-Oscar gross of US$53.4 million) generated an audience of 38.64 million with a household rating of 22.91%.[82] In 2008, the 80th Academy Awards telecast was watched by 31.76 million viewers on average with an 18.66% household rating, the lowest-rated and least-watched ceremony at the time, in spite of celebrating 80 years of the Academy Awards.[83] The Best Picture winner of that particular ceremony was another independent film (No Country for Old Men).
By contrast, ceremonies honoring films that have not performed well at the box office tend to show weaker ratings, despite how much critically acclaimed those films have been. The 78th Academy Awards which awarded low-budget independent film Crash (with a pre-Oscar gross of US$53.4 million) generated an audience of 38.64 million with a household rating of 22.91%.[82] In 2008, the 80th Academy Awards telecast was watched by 31.76 million viewers on average with an 18.66% household rating, the lowest-rated and least-watched ceremony at the time, in spite of celebrating 80 years of the Academy Awards.[83] The Best Picture winner of that particular ceremony was another independent film (No Country for Old Men).
02-16-20, 10:41 AM
#311
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Everyone knows the Oscars aren’t going to pull in super bowl type numbers. As long as it beats what’s regularly scheduled, I say leave it alone. As soon as it gets lower ratings a than your average episode of America’s Funniest Home Videos with host Alfonso Roberto, then worry.
02-16-20, 06:56 PM
#312
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Since the film industry is so balkanized between arthouse and blockbuster, should the Academy consider splitting its awards into genres, like Best Drama, Best Comedy or Musical, and Best Adventure Movie (which would cover most blockbuster movies)? Add two more "best picture" categories, if not actor/actress categories as well. (Which would probably mean it runs until three in the morning.)
02-17-20, 05:16 AM
#313
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Since the film industry is so balkanized between arthouse and blockbuster, should the Academy consider splitting its awards into genres, like Best Drama, Best Comedy or Musical, and Best Adventure Movie (which would cover most blockbuster movies)? Add two more "best picture" categories, if not actor/actress categories as well. (Which would probably mean it runs until three in the morning.)
02-17-20, 07:45 AM
#314
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Weren't they going to add a "best popular film" or something a couple of years ago and people lost their mind?
Unless the academy starts nominating stuff like Endgame, this year was probably the best it's going to get. Joker was a huge hit and OUATIH, Ford v Ferrari and 1917 were some of the biggest non franchise movies of the year. Marriage story and the Irishman were also probably far more widely seen than your typical best picture nom.
Unless the academy starts nominating stuff like Endgame, this year was probably the best it's going to get. Joker was a huge hit and OUATIH, Ford v Ferrari and 1917 were some of the biggest non franchise movies of the year. Marriage story and the Irishman were also probably far more widely seen than your typical best picture nom.
04-30-20, 02:19 PM
#315
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Yes. But only a small portion of the voting body are involved in sound. The largest voting body of the Academy are actors.
Not saying the most deserving movies don’t win, but rather that one Oscar for both would be fine, they are both part of the same process, like there are many parts of special effects but only one Oscar. Would speed up the awards and I’d rather see some new awards like Stunt Coordinator and for Best First Feature instead.
Not saying the most deserving movies don’t win, but rather that one Oscar for both would be fine, they are both part of the same process, like there are many parts of special effects but only one Oscar. Would speed up the awards and I’d rather see some new awards like Stunt Coordinator and for Best First Feature instead.
At the request of the Sound Branch itself, the current Sound Mixing and Sound Editing categories are being combined into one, thus reducing the number of Oscar categories to 23. I am told this consolidation was made by the Sound Branch members themselves and is not the result of any perceived attempt by the Academy at large to help reduce the running time of the Oscar broadcast. The past few years have produced the same winner for both categories, and that started discussions on perhaps just combining them — though the 2019 winners did split, with Ford v Ferrari taking Sound Editing and 1917 winning for Sound Mixing.
04-30-20, 04:02 PM
#316
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
I'm a bit of a movie nerd and I STILL don't know the big difference between sound editing and sound mixing. Yeah, I get that one is the collection of the sounds used in a movie and the other is the actual placing of those sounds in the movie...but come on, it's a distinction that the Academy didn't need (even though different people may be doing the work).
04-30-20, 04:47 PM
#317
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
I feel like it is a big difference, comparable to having two categories for Best Cinematography and Best Editing. One is for the creation of the shots, and the other is for assembling those shots into a movie.
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04-30-20, 05:02 PM
#318
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
And even if you can recognize the difference in the two fields, walk me through why Ford v Ferrari was better in one aspect while 1917 was better in the other.
05-01-20, 12:11 AM
#319
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
I don't understand your first question, what did happen with special visual effects?
I didn't see Ford v Ferrari so I can't compare the two movies, but it seems clear to me the members of the sound branch of the academy could be impressed with the sound recording and sound creation of Movie A, yet still find the overall sound mixing of Movie B better.
I didn't see Ford v Ferrari so I can't compare the two movies, but it seems clear to me the members of the sound branch of the academy could be impressed with the sound recording and sound creation of Movie A, yet still find the overall sound mixing of Movie B better.
05-01-20, 01:27 AM
#320
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
I just meant that one group of people design and create special visual effects, and other group inserts those effects into the movie seamlessly. And there is only one Oscar that they share. And everyone is fine with that.
05-02-20, 12:38 PM
#321
Moderator
Re: The 92nd Academy Awards --> 2020 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
Room for stunts, then?
