dex14

Wtf is a shipper?

stingermck

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shipper

brayzie

This is what started it:
JOHN BOYEGA Pisses Off 'Star Wars' Fans WITH 'LAYING PIPE' JOKE ABOUT REY

kefrank

I really don't understand social media. Why does John Boyega care about that at all?

Mabuse

I’m so confused.


But back to the subject of Rose. I’ve said it before but she doesn’t even have a cool costume. It’s Star Wars. 75% of it is cool costuming. She’s like the one character that wears street clothes while everyone else is in cool future costumes.

dex14

Probably because he’s a dude in his 20s.

brayzie

I think these days Hollywood actors are expected to have a strong Twitter presence. If your followers are too low, it's perceived as detracting from your value. You have actors like Ryan Reynolds who have people that manage it for him, which makes it very entertaining, and in turn, people follow him in droves.

stingermck

For those in the audience who need this

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-kyl...m-john-boyega/

John Boyega Throws Shade at Rey & Kylo Ren Relationship | Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Star Wars : Just Jared

Josh-da-man

Anyone who thinks Star Wars fandom is toxic probably didn't scan livejournals when Buffy the Vampire Slayer was still on the air and the "Season 8" comics were coming out. I remember hoping that Joss Whedon wore a bullet proof vest out in public because some of those "Spuffies" were completely unhinged.

This was before social media took over the 'net, and most of the madness was mostly contained in their own little ponds (LJs, blogs, and boards) and celebrities weren't as accessible as they are now.

thematahara

Just saw it....man, what a mess this trilogy is/was. Trying to write these on the fly with no idea where it is going just leaves an incoherent mess.

TFA was just A New Hope Remix, totally pointless
TLJ at least tried to separate itself from the OT and introduce some new ideas
ROTS, just a spineless movie.

On the surface, these movies look great and may even be entertaining, but scratch at it even a bit and it falls apart.

There just wasnt a story to be told that warranted these to be made. They should have just made a sequel with the original cast, since that is what they use as a crutch throughout, or not make any more movies until they have an actual story to tell.

The only reason these are better than the prequel trilogies is because of the stronger actors and visual spectacle. At least the prequels tried.

Michael Corvin

I wouldn't say the actors are stronger here than the prequels. I mean Liam Neeson, Sam Jackson, Natalie Portman & Ewan McGregor? Their shitty performances fall squarely on the director.

Visually I'd put them on par with each other but the new trilogy has much stronger action sequences.

Brack

Not just shitty performances, but the dialogue. My god is it bad. Watching the prequels again on Disney +, and it’s still shocking how bad it is. Palpatine has the only good dialogue in that trilogy.

milo bloom

The whole Reylo thing is just bizarre considering that the first thing Kylo does when he meets Rey in TFA is to torture her for information.

There's chemistry there, but it's because they're both struggling with the Force pulling them in opposite directions past each other, but they really don't make a good couple.

Rey saying she wanted to be with Ben and not Kylo is a good compromise for the whole thing.


Also, just wanted to point out that my speculation about Rey taking the name of Skywalker was sorta close. I expected her to take it as a title, but I didn't have a problem with her taking it as her actual name.

IBJoel

I started my series rewatch with Episode III thinking "It's kiiiiind of the OK one?" Nope! Dialogue and poorly-aged effects made it nearly unwatchable. I understand there are kids who grew up with the prequels (I myself was the ideal target age when each one came out), but man they've got to learn to admit that they aren't well-made films (although I think people in general need to accept that "I like it" =/= "it is therefore good").

Draven

I was watching Attack of the Clones the other day - take a shot anytime Anakin calls Kenobi "master" or someone says "m'lady" to Padme. You'll die of alcohol poisoning inside of 20 minutes.

stvn1974

brayzie

I think it's funny how Disney positions itself to appear very progressive, and is lauded for stuff like "The Force is Female", and yet, in a culture where so much is "problematic," I'm surprised that ReyLo becoming a thing hasn't garnered more criticism.
Kylo Ren is essentially a school shooter, meets the female protagonist when he captures her and tortures her for information, kills her new father figure...and yet this strong, independent, female role model ends up falling for him? There was some very light criticism of Beauty and the Beast's Stockholm Syndrome, but it's Disney so some how that didn't get much traction.
Disney + Star Wars...not much of peep from the media. I'll have to check Woke Twitter to see if there's a strong reaction.

It feels like they came up with the title and THEN fit the story around it.
It definitely was a feel good ending, but I think it would have been more appropriate for the exchange to be "Rey who?" "Just Rey." Meaning she's not anyone but herself. She's prover herself beyond being a Skywalker or Palpatine.

milo bloom

Pretty sure there's a line from Palpatine during the showdown about the power being a rare occurrence in Force users.

Though the idea of Force healers has been in the EU games and novels for years, I think it was written more along the lines of creating a calming aura around the patient that allowed them to heal faster, not an actual physical change like we saw Rey do, so that makes it a new thing.

But I did notice a parallel to that scene where Rey is holding the dying Kylo, looked very similar to that shot above.

outcastja

Disney Sabotaged J.J. Abrams and Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Not taking this story too seriously, but it is a fun read assuming the source was legit. The tidbits I thought was interesting:

dex14

"Why don’t you just put ‘directed and written by Lucasfilm’ then?"

I don't really buy any of that, but that is funny.

Draven

I am so glad that the internet wasn't around during the time of the OT. The movies were allowed to just exist without being ripped to shreds with "insider" exposes and endless thinkpieces. There is no way those movies would be as highly regarded if they were treated like this new trilogy has been. And this is coming from a lifelong SW fan.

milo bloom

The fact that Disney had to beg JJ to come back to do Ep 9 after TLJ makes it unlikely they wouldn't give him final cut. I can see them pushing some ideas harder than others but at the same time it seems odd that Disney wouldn't want to milk the franchise for another movie and give us Ep 9 and 10. I feel JJ didn't want to deal with having to edit and promote two whole movies so he squeezed everything into one movie to be done with it all.
I haven't seen anything like this from my source, I'll keep an eye on their posts to see if they ever admit anything like this happened.

Why So Blu?

Empress Palpatine unleashed would have been phenomenal as opposed to what we got in that "what if" dream sequence.

/random thoughts

coli

I agree, as you could do this 'what if' scenario' with every SW movie after the original came out. ROTJ could have been a totally different movie back in 1983 as Lucas nixed the ST and condensed the whole story into Episode 6. If the Internet existed back in 1983, YouTubers would be whining that Gary Kurtz left, the other was Leia, the recycled Death Star, the Ewoks, etc. What annoys me even more is all of these whiners who want the 'JJ cut' would have ripped it to shreds if it were the movie that came out last month. I firmly believe there are a segment of fans who will never be happy (my best friend was bitching about TROS on the way to the movie so he is just a jaded fan at this point who needs to move on from the franchise.) We honestly haven't even talked much about TROS after seeing it together opening weekend because his complaints are the same old complaints we've heard since 1999. There is nothing wrong with walking away from a franchise as I did it with Terminator after Salvation, as there comes a point where they just aren't going to appeal to you anymore. SW fans need to remember the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." This is like the 6th time they have been fooled now!

candyrocket786

Had the TLJ gone in that direction and then if this film had Ben Solo trying to stop her..... that would've been pretty damn exciting.