Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Terminator: Dark Fate (Tim Miller, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters
View Poll Results: Terminator: Dark Fate (Tim Miller, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
0
0%
2.44%
14.63%
31.71%
24.39%
4.88%
14.63%
2.44%
0
0%
4.88%
0
0%
What are you high?
0
0%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

Terminator: Dark Fate (Tim Miller, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

Old 08-17-20, 06:33 AM
  #151  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
The Antipodean's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 6,611
Received 151 Likes on 109 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

Finally saw this. Decent if not quite great - I liked the first 2/3 a lot but actually thought it kind of fell down in the final act. While it was nice to see Arnold again the story sort of fell into standard action showdown territory after promising a bit more. Id rank it tied with T3 for me (which I think is rather underrated). T1 and T2 are the only stone cold classics, T5 was muddled, and T4 is still by far the worst imho. I think this franchise is finally done though until theY reboot entirely with a new cast in 2028.
Old 08-17-20, 08:47 AM
  #152  
Banned by request
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Goodbye and Good Luck
Posts: 17,800
Received 778 Likes on 582 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

They should have just called this Terminator: The Adventures of Carl. This was a silly mess right from the get go. So I guess this marks the 4th unnecessary sequel the doesn't add anything to the overall story.
Old 08-17-20, 03:56 PM
  #153  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Relocated to Bot-Hell
Posts: 11,733
Received 225 Likes on 164 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

Originally Posted by E Unit
They should have just called this Terminator: The Adventures of Carl. This was a silly mess right from the get go. So I guess this marks the 4th unnecessary sequel the doesn't add anything to the overall story.
Honestly, this is very close to my assessment. I am only counting Terminator and Terminator 2 and calling it a day.
Old 08-17-20, 04:27 PM
  #154  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,227
Received 15 Likes on 12 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

I actually like this a lot more than I expected and think it is the best one since T2. Got a bad rap in my opinion.
The following users liked this post:
DJariya (08-17-20)
Old 08-17-20, 04:40 PM
  #155  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Mike86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 24,465
Received 1,073 Likes on 851 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

I thought Dark Fate was okay. The problem with the Terminator franchise is that the first two are so good, and nothing since has come close to matching up.

I think its time to just stop trying with the franchise. I mean weve had four underwhelming films and a tv series. Ive liked pretty much all of them to varying degrees, but they dont have mainstream popularity and continue to do worse and worse. Its tired and just not catching on with people like it once did.
Old 08-17-20, 04:40 PM
  #156  
Banned by request
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Goodbye and Good Luck
Posts: 17,800
Received 778 Likes on 582 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

I really checked out when "Carl" was talking about decorating a girls room. Not exactly in the same vein as the original and Judgement Day.
Old 08-17-20, 05:15 PM
  #157  
TGM
DVD Talk Legend
 
TGM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 16,929
Received 372 Likes on 237 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

Originally Posted by Unclejosh
I actually like this a lot more than I expected and think it is the best one since T2. Got a bad rap in my opinion.
agreed.
Old 08-17-20, 05:30 PM
  #158  
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,886
Received 1,003 Likes on 579 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

Originally Posted by Mike86
I thought Dark Fate was okay. The problem with the Terminator franchise is that the first two are so good, and nothing since has come close to matching up.
I would go so far as to say the issue is that they refuse to change the premise that much. Our relationship to technology and information has changed immensely since the 1980s and 90s. So why did Dark Fate change so little about the apocalyptic future? I thought the idea of super soldiers was awesome. But once SkyNet was stopped, another evil AI did the exact same thing? I thought a neat twist would have been that in the "new" future, there was no evil AI. Or if anything, there was a good AI born out of a human-created apocalypse, trying to piece the world back together, but humans too addicted to tribalism keep warring with one another and the machines.
The following users liked this post:
The Antipodean (08-18-20)
Old 08-19-20, 06:18 AM
  #159  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
tanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Gator Nation
Posts: 9,648
Received 834 Likes on 590 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

Yeah the whole Terminator franchise just doesn't work as a franchise. They just wanted to make more movies for the money but the stories were never there. They had two great movies and a theme park attraction worth of ideas. After that they've pretty much been mediocre to awful. But I can't tell you what would make another great terminator movie. Either they try too hard to be like previous movies where they are clearly just hitting the hallmarks of the franchise e.g. "I'll be back", "come with me if you want to live" without finding an identity of it's own. I have to credit Terminator Salvation for at least giving us the future war movie we've always wanted. Dark Fate was definitely the best Terminator movie since T2 but still pales in comparison to T1 and T2.
The following users liked this post:
IBJoel (08-19-20)
Old 08-19-20, 04:10 PM
  #160  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Josh-da-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Bible Belt
Posts: 42,809
Received 2,395 Likes on 1,676 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

The Terminator, as a concept, is really limited in scope. There's not really much you can do with it. It's like a closed loop. It's not open ended.

After the original Terminator, the logical direction would be to follow-up with things like Skynet causing Judgement Day, the war against the machines, and John Connor ultimately defeating the machines and winning the war.

But to do that might either be too budget intensive (especially for the 80s and 90s), and audiences might have rejected those films because they strayed too far from the formula established in the first one. Even now, Salvation is looked upon unfavorably by many.

So now we're stuck with a franchise that just keeps going back to the same well with diminishing returns. (Lucasfilm, take note!)
Old 08-19-20, 04:49 PM
  #161  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
The Antipodean's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 6,611
Received 151 Likes on 109 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (2019, D: Miller) Schwarzenegger, Hamilton -- Cameron producing

Terminator and Terminator 2 together tell a concise apocalyptic story, one that has been exhumed every few years with diminishing returns ever since. Instead of it becoming a story of humanity changing a dark future, seen over six films its actually a tale of how no matter how many robots you kill, everything is still going to go horribly wrong somehow in the end.
Old 04-18-22, 03:44 PM
  #162  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Traxan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,472
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 19 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (Tim Miller, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

I caught this on TV. What a rip off of T2, right down to the helicopter chase. And did I miss it or was there no explanation from the T-800 why he suddenly looks 70 years old?

Grace was a nice addition but man, Mackenzie is a strange-looking chick. She has a neck to rival Marc Alaimo.
Old 04-18-22, 03:52 PM
  #163  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,227
Received 15 Likes on 12 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (Tim Miller, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Traxan
I caught this on TV. What a rip off of T2, right down to the helicopter chase. And did I miss it or was there no explanation from the T-800 why he suddenly looks 70 years old?

Grace was a nice addition but man, Mackenzie is a strange-looking chick. She has a neck to rival Marc Alaimo.
The T-800 has living tissue so it ages normally.
Old 04-18-22, 03:59 PM
  #164  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,313
Received 296 Likes on 230 Posts
Re: Terminator: Dark Fate (Tim Miller, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

To expand on that....

The living tissue ages, which is why the T-800 is considered to be Skynet's perfect series. The T-800 can blend in with humans, which wasn't achieved with the T-600 series. The T-600 was 7'3" tall. Not a common human height. Very easy to spot.

And that is why Salvation is a great film. It really paid great respect to the Terminator mythology. Unlike the other Terminator sequels, which just ripped off Terminator 2 over and over and over....

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.