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Joker (Phillips, 2019) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
#76
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I’ve seen several mentions of security doing bag checks. Why are people even allowed to bring bags into a movie theater in the first place?
#77
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There are variables.
#78
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My friend brings this big ass tablet wherever he goes. To movies, out to eat, everywhere. Bothers the shit out of me and I don’t know how something like it was allowed into theater yesterday...
#80
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Ive never really understood people who feel the need to carry a bunch of stuff wherever they go. I carry the essential items (phone, wallet, keys) and thats all. Shopping bags Id rather drop off at my car than lug them around.
#81
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You know, I always wondered why the review threads are "spoiler filled". Wouldn't you think that people who want to read reviews probably don't want to see spoilers?
#83
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‘Joker’ Audience Self-Evacuates Long Beach Theater Because Of “Suspicious Subject”
An audience at a screening of Joker on opening weekend self-evacuated a Long Beach theater after a man was acting suspiciously.According to the Long Beach Post, police were dispatched to the Regal Edwards theater in Long Beach Towne Centre on Saturday after they received calls that there were shots coming from the theater. Long Beach police spokeswoman Arantxa Chavarria said that the moviegoers self-evacuated the theater because of a “suspicious subject inside.”The official Long Beach Police Department posted a statement on their official Facebook page saying, “Officers were on scene within a minute of dispatch & discovered patrons had self-evacuated due to a suspicious male adult who was wearing a backpack and looking out at the crowd near an emergency exit inside the theater.”They added, “The suspect was detained and was not found in possession of any weapons, however he was taken into custody for an unrelated outstanding warrant.”This comes after the Cinemark Century Huntington Beach and XD cineplex closed on October 3 after receiving word of a “credible threat” surrounding the movie.In the weeks leading up to the release of Joker, the Warner Bros. film has raised eyebrows in a year of mass shootings across the nation, along with its IP connection to the July 2012 shooting in Aurora, CO at the midnight screening of The Dark Knight Rises that killed 12 and wounded 70. Last month, several of the Aurora victims’ families spoke out about concerns over the film. In response, Warner Bros sought to address those concerns and promised “it is not the intention of the film, the filmmakers or the studio to hold this character up as a hero.”
During the film’s premiere last week, there was heightened security but luckily there were no threats. However, police from Los Angeles to New York still remained vigilant during opening weekend. Theater chains including AMC and Landmark have issued bans on masks being worn by patrons and other concealments. The Cinemark site’s Joker listings page highlights its “costume policy” which states “that masks, hats, helmets that cover the face, and face painting are not allowed within the theatre or auditoriums. Additionally, simulated weapons are not permitted in the theatre or auditorium.”
Crazy, I had not heard of the Huntington Beach incident either. Glad nothing happened on both counts.
#84
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That said, I'm glad they DIDN'T spoon-feed us the ending in Arkham, from which one can imply (just like in The Usual Suspects) that everything that came before wasn't the Joker's actual origin, but just a story the Joker had made up in his head. The key to that scene is when he says "I just thought of a joke...you wouldn't get it." I love how ambiguous that scene is - allowing viewers to have multiple theories about what they just saw (and placating DC fans who insist that the Joker's origin should never be told).
Last edited by Shannon Nutt; 10-07-19 at 06:43 AM.
#85
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Fantastic and haunting performance. Loves the score as well. This is now my cannon origin for Batman. A random mugging that lead to murder vs a full scale riot with Thomas as a target is just better. While the arkham ending leading to ambiguity was OK, I would have preferred it ended with Joker on the car, and Bruce in the ally.
#86
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I am very torn on this movie. It's really well done, and Phoenix's performance is pretty great. I will say that I think the Joker might be one of the greatest roles in cinema history because so many good actors have taken the role, made it their own and made it memorable(even Leto even though he was memorable for the wrong reasons) The set design is great and I liked how it treated the Batman mythos even though I had the ending figured out midway through the movie. This reminded me a lot of The Killing Joke as well in terms of giving an origin to the Joker, and also with how uncomfortable it is to watch. However I don't think that you can say this is really a Joker movie since this Joker has so little in common with the comic book version other than the 15 minutes he's wearing the classic costume. He is a lot older, and he is not a criminal mastermind.I don't know it feels like it could be a Joker story, but it also doesn't feel like a Joker story, even though with the ending you could surmise that the entire movie was just Joker lying to the psychiatrist. The really frustrating thing is that it seems like Phoenix could have been an amazing Joker with the laugh, the mannerisms and everything he brought. Still I think this is a movie that brings a lot to the table to digest and I applaud it for doing something different. 4/5.
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That said, I'm glad they DIDN'T spoon-feed us the ending in Arkham, from which one can imply (just like in The Usual Suspects) that everything that came before wasn't the Joker's actual origin, but just a story the Joker had made up in his head. The key to that scene is when he says "I just thought of a joke...you wouldn't get it." I love how ambiguous that scene is - allowing viewers to have multiple theories about what they just saw (and placating DC fans who insist that the Joker's origin should never be told).
I also loved how, in the last scene, you see Joker leaving bloody footprints and they DIDN'T pan over to show that he killed the psychiatrist. That made it way more eerie.
#88
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Phoenix does not sound close minded to a sequel in this interview:
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#89
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Same here... took me a couple steps to realize they were red and that he did indeed kill the shrink.
#92
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If you are into Marvel films with lots of glitz then this one isn't for you. If you like character driven films that say more with the unwritten text then this was brilliant!
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That said, I'm glad they DIDN'T spoon-feed us the ending in Arkham, from which one can imply (just like in The Usual Suspects) that everything that came before wasn't the Joker's actual origin, but just a story the Joker had made up in his head. The key to that scene is when he says "I just thought of a joke...you wouldn't get it." I love how ambiguous that scene is - allowing viewers to have multiple theories about what they just saw (and placating DC fans who insist that the Joker's origin should never be told).
#94
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I'm into both (at least when Marvel films were good), but this still was just "Ok". I really have no plans to see it again and I don't much care if they were to produce a sequel with him/Bats.
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If you are into Marvel films with lots of glitz then this one isn't for you. If you like character driven films that say more with the unwritten text then this was brilliant!
#96
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Giving them the benefit of the doubt that it didn't turn into a riot until mid Zorro. There is no way Thomas Wayne takes his wife and kid to a movie in the middle of a protest where protesters are wearing costumes based off a comment that Thomas Wayne made. Other than tying the death of the Waynes in and the stolen Fight Club shots others have complained about I really enjoyed the film.
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Giving them the benefit of the doubt that it didn't turn into a riot until mid Zorro. There is no way Thomas Wayne takes his wife and kid to a movie in the middle of a protest where protesters are wearing costumes based off a comment that Thomas Wayne made. Other than tying the death of the Waynes in and the stolen Fight Club shots others have complained about I really enjoyed the film.
#100
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I was on the border about seeing the movie...it's far more "art house" than it is anything else. The comparisons to The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver are spot-on. Not only in terms of plot and visuals, but in terms of quality. At the very least, a lot of "comic book movie" people are getting a chance to see what a real "film" looks like.