Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
08-22-19, 03:18 PM
#151
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
08-22-19, 03:46 PM
#152
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
You keep saying that, but where's your information on it? She has very little say at all as she is NO LONGER THE HEAD OF MOTION PICTURES FOR SONY. Her name, along with Avi Arad, will continue to be on any and all Spider-man films because she originally brokered the deal to acquire the rights. The last thing she had a lot of pull on is Little Women. Do you think she had any say in the story line for Into the Spider-verse? No.
08-22-19, 04:09 PM
#155
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
It’s no different than Lauren Donner being a producer on Dark Phoenix and having no involvement.
08-22-19, 04:15 PM
#156
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
With Feige out that leaves her solely in charge according to the stories I've read.
08-22-19, 04:16 PM
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
According to Disney (who so many here hold in such high esteem), they also made an even worse version of Solo : A Star Wars Story than the one we ended up with.
08-22-19, 04:20 PM
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Her Pascal Pictures also ended their deal with Sony and partnered up with Universal. Does that mean she's taking Spider-man to Universal, too? Why, if she has so much pull, was she not included in the talks with Marvel about this. Only two names have popped up on the Sony side, Rothman and Studio Chairman Vinciquerra.
08-22-19, 06:41 PM
#159
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
08-22-19, 07:31 PM
#161
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
I always assumed they made a very funny and unique version. Scenes get turned upside down at any moment. And it didn’t fit alongside the others. It’s like how you don’t hire Wes Anderson to direct a Hunger Games movie.
08-22-19, 09:27 PM
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08-22-19, 10:40 PM
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Because her deal with Sony ended and Pascal Pictures is with Universal. Little Women is the last production under her Sony deal. She was integral in acquiring the rights, she SHOULD still have a piece of that Spider-Man pie, but if you think that means she has control over the production, you need to realize she's not ponying up the money nor is she having to find backers to finance a film that big. It's Sony's money. Sony is going to be driving that ship. Amy will be there in name only collecting an Executive Producer check like Will Smith did for his son's shitty After Earth film.
08-22-19, 11:29 PM
#166
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Because her deal with Sony ended and Pascal Pictures is with Universal. Little Women is the last production under her Sony deal. She was integral in acquiring the rights, she SHOULD still have a piece of that Spider-Man pie, but if you think that means she has control over the production, you need to realize she's not ponying up the money nor is she having to find backers to finance a film that big. It's Sony's money. Sony is going to be driving that ship. Amy will be there in name only collecting an Executive Producer check like Will Smith did for his son's shitty After Earth film.
We'll see what happens, but I do remember that one of the carrots that Sony dangled in front of her to get her to, "Resign," was the role as Spider-Man producer - hands on production, not in name only.
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08-23-19, 09:04 AM
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08-23-19, 04:22 PM
#168
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
EXCLUSIVE: As the dust settles on the Disney/Marvel and Kevin Feige exit from the Sony’s Spider-Man franchise, the next looming tug of war might well be over director Jon Watts, who catapulted from the small budget Sundance film Cop Car to the A-list helmer of the $880 million grosser Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home, which just surpassed the 007 film Skyfall to become Sony’s highest ever grossing film at $1.11 billion.
I’m told that Watts was only bound to the Spidey franchise as director for those two pictures and that it’s no certainty he will be back to direct Tom Holland in the third installment being written by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers. They wrote the record breaker Spider-Man: Far From Home.
I’m told he’s being courted by Marvel. It is understandable that Marvel and Feige would want to keep things going with Watts: Feige has a strong track record of helping to change the career trajectory of filmmakers who wouldn’t have been automatic choices for mega-budget superhero films, from Joe & Anthony Russo to Taika Waititi, James Gunn and Scott Derrickson. As for one-upsmanship, there are bruised feelings between those studios over the Rashomon-like press narratives that followed Deadline’s scoop, over who did what in dismantling a brilliantly orchestrated introduction of a hit superhero franchise. It has gotten so bad that some wonder if it would even be possible for them to rethink things and come to terms on Spider-Man.
On those talks that Deadline revealed Tuesday: I continue to hear from reliable sources that the notion Feige was too busy to do more Spider-Man films just doesn’t hold water; he loves the character and the way those movies served the fans and the Marvel Universe. I continue to hear that Disney asked for a 25% stake where it would finance that much of the movie and receive that much of the equity upside. This arrangement would only have been for any pictures that involved Marvel & Feige. It wasn’t a forever deal, like the time one Sony made years ago to continue as distributor of James Bond. Back then, Sony cut MGM into a co-financing relationship on the pictures The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and 21 Jump Street, that gave MGM rights to co-finance future installments. The Spider-Man deal was only for pictures where Marvel lent Feige and the weight of its brand and cross pollination in Marvel movies. Still, it was a big ask of Sony, which had been getting a relative bargain at 5% of first dollar gross. That 25% offer sat for a half year, and finally the conversation was the 50% co-fi stake, before Disney called the whole thing off.
It will be interesting to see what Watts does, but his reps at CAA have enviable leverage if he chooses to direct another Spider-Man, or a Marvel movie, or a blockbuster from any other studio. Stay tuned.
I’m told that Watts was only bound to the Spidey franchise as director for those two pictures and that it’s no certainty he will be back to direct Tom Holland in the third installment being written by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers. They wrote the record breaker Spider-Man: Far From Home.
I’m told he’s being courted by Marvel. It is understandable that Marvel and Feige would want to keep things going with Watts: Feige has a strong track record of helping to change the career trajectory of filmmakers who wouldn’t have been automatic choices for mega-budget superhero films, from Joe & Anthony Russo to Taika Waititi, James Gunn and Scott Derrickson. As for one-upsmanship, there are bruised feelings between those studios over the Rashomon-like press narratives that followed Deadline’s scoop, over who did what in dismantling a brilliantly orchestrated introduction of a hit superhero franchise. It has gotten so bad that some wonder if it would even be possible for them to rethink things and come to terms on Spider-Man.
On those talks that Deadline revealed Tuesday: I continue to hear from reliable sources that the notion Feige was too busy to do more Spider-Man films just doesn’t hold water; he loves the character and the way those movies served the fans and the Marvel Universe. I continue to hear that Disney asked for a 25% stake where it would finance that much of the movie and receive that much of the equity upside. This arrangement would only have been for any pictures that involved Marvel & Feige. It wasn’t a forever deal, like the time one Sony made years ago to continue as distributor of James Bond. Back then, Sony cut MGM into a co-financing relationship on the pictures The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and 21 Jump Street, that gave MGM rights to co-finance future installments. The Spider-Man deal was only for pictures where Marvel lent Feige and the weight of its brand and cross pollination in Marvel movies. Still, it was a big ask of Sony, which had been getting a relative bargain at 5% of first dollar gross. That 25% offer sat for a half year, and finally the conversation was the 50% co-fi stake, before Disney called the whole thing off.
It will be interesting to see what Watts does, but his reps at CAA have enviable leverage if he chooses to direct another Spider-Man, or a Marvel movie, or a blockbuster from any other studio. Stay tuned.
08-23-19, 04:42 PM
#169
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
It's my understanding that if Spidey really does get divorced from the MCU, it lets Spidey play a much bigger role in Sony's own spin-offs like Venom.
08-23-19, 09:28 PM
#170
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
But with a Disney deal, Spidey's role would be big in both, the MCU and Sony produced spinoffs like Venom 2 and Morbius.
08-24-19, 12:31 AM
#171
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Marvel didn't want Spider-man involved in anything possibly rated R. This allows Sony to not have to tone down those movies and still have Spidey involved.
08-24-19, 12:42 AM
#172
DVD Talk Legend
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
So Marvel wanted to pay 25% of the production costs and get 25% of the revenue from the movie. That sounds pretty damned fair. Especially since they boosted the box office for Spidey up by 100% from the last Sony produced movie!
Sony's going to fuck up the franchise again. The Garfield movies had serious flaws, and the Venom movie was Venom minus everything that MADE him Venom in the comics (Eddie/Symbiote's hatred of Peter/Spidey).
I really hope that they can come to terms and work out their differences. Sony, left on their own, hasn't shown that they can do this right.
Sony's going to fuck up the franchise again. The Garfield movies had serious flaws, and the Venom movie was Venom minus everything that MADE him Venom in the comics (Eddie/Symbiote's hatred of Peter/Spidey).
I really hope that they can come to terms and work out their differences. Sony, left on their own, hasn't shown that they can do this right.
08-24-19, 08:48 AM
#174
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re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Saw a tweet that said: "I think it's cool that Sony is carrying on the tradition of fucking up Spider-Man 3."