View Poll Results: Will famouse decease actors return to screen in the future?
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Deep Fake Technology - Will deceased actors return to screen?
07-28-19, 11:26 AM
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07-28-19, 11:58 AM
#27
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Plus wasn’t The Crow largely finished when he died? I think it was only a few scenes that had to be finished.
07-28-19, 12:09 PM
#28
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07-29-19, 10:02 AM
#29
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I feel like this has already happened with Carrie Fisher in Rouge One in addition to other people in that movie. It feels like a Hollywood remake of a classic- inevitable to continue. 
07-29-19, 10:42 AM
#30
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Carrie Fisher was aware of the scene in Rogue One. She passed away eleven days after the film’s release. They didn’t add her in posthumously after the film came out. It’s just that the film and her death were so close together that it’s easy to confuse.
07-29-19, 01:13 PM
#31
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I'm aware that this was done when she was alive. But it was a ~20 year old Carrie seen on the screen not her being de-aged. Also Mon Mothma and Peter Cushing / General Tarkin were also both CGI so this is already happening.
07-29-19, 01:31 PM
#33
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07-29-19, 01:49 PM
#34
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07-29-19, 02:05 PM
#35
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I wonder if these mega franchises going forward will add a clause that will allow them to use this tech to add deceased actors into future installments ala Rogue One (they might already do so)
07-29-19, 02:11 PM
#36
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I’m not sure if I really understand the point of your posts. De-aging technology is different than what the topic is talking about. Carrie being alive at the time the film came out is a different situation as I’m sure she was aware of it. Some of these dead actors and actresses can’t give consent obviously, which is what’s being discussed. I brought up Cushing earlier. Mon Mothma is played by an entirely different actress (she was also played by the same actress in Revenge of the Sith).
07-29-19, 02:41 PM
#37
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I thought the thread was more about the technology, and the rights were brought up after. I brought up Carrie originally because even though she gave approval, that was pretty much her face on top of another actor's body, so the technology is there, and I assume legally for now at least the rights reside with the estate at least until this become prevalent and new laws have to be made up. Personally, I'd rather they just recast ala Solo instead of try to deage/cgi Harrison Ford or something.
07-29-19, 02:43 PM
#38
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I’m not sure if I really understand the point of your posts. De-aging technology is different than what the topic is talking about. Carrie being alive at the time the film came out is a different situation as I’m sure she was aware of it. Some of these dead actors and actresses can’t give consent obviously, which is what’s being discussed. I brought up Cushing earlier. Mon Mothma is played by an entirely different actress (she was also played by the same actress in Revenge of the Sith).
Wait isn't it Mom Mottma's face in Rouge one on another actress's body?
07-29-19, 02:55 PM
#39
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my point is 2 of the three people I mention in the post are "Deep fake actors already inserted into a released movie after they died." Carrie Fisher was inserted into a movie she was not on set for "as a deep fake" so its already happening.
Wait isn't it Mom Mottma's face in Rouge one on another actress's body?
Wait isn't it Mom Mottma's face in Rouge one on another actress's body?
07-29-19, 04:25 PM
#40
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It's inevitable and the future of big-screen cinema in Hollywood. Many people would pay good money to see Christopher Reeve play Superman again in a movie. You could then have a real Crisis On Infinite Earths movie with all the actors that have played Superman meeting themselves.
07-30-19, 08:20 AM
#41
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07-30-19, 07:23 PM
#42
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07-30-19, 07:53 PM
#43
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What is interesting for me about all this, is that I'm aware of at least two SF stories that dealt with the subject we're discussing. Both of them were decades before the technology existed in any form.
One was a long story/novel with a dystopian theme set in a not-too-distant future. At the story climax the protagonists have to resort to a last minute, low-res, digital resurrection of Bob Hope to stave off a political crisis/revolution.
The other was a short story about an actor who, when he was younger, had signed away his rights to his own image so that production companies could continue to make entertainment with it. The story dealt mostly with the consequences and fall out of that decision.
Unfortunately, I do recall the titles/authors of either story. As I recall, the short story appeared in an anthology from the 60s or 70s, and the other was published sometime in the 70s or 80s.
One was a long story/novel with a dystopian theme set in a not-too-distant future. At the story climax the protagonists have to resort to a last minute, low-res, digital resurrection of Bob Hope to stave off a political crisis/revolution.
The other was a short story about an actor who, when he was younger, had signed away his rights to his own image so that production companies could continue to make entertainment with it. The story dealt mostly with the consequences and fall out of that decision.
Unfortunately, I do recall the titles/authors of either story. As I recall, the short story appeared in an anthology from the 60s or 70s, and the other was published sometime in the 70s or 80s.
08-01-19, 07:17 PM
#44
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Here's one from a few years back.
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08-02-19, 07:06 AM
#45
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I removed the poll options. FYI, I don't think the mentions option is the best way to get in touch with us. I never check my public profile and it doesn't look like we get an email when we are mentioned.
08-02-19, 06:27 PM
#46
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08-03-19, 09:13 AM
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They're so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
